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LadyMonicaBaddingham · 02/03/2024 15:44

William probably had a massive spot on the end of his nose or something. All this silly speculation and theorising is getting ridiculous...

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 02/03/2024 15:46

SurvivalKits · 01/03/2024 07:49

Do they usually call her Catherine?

Well it is her name..!

Aquarius1234 · 02/03/2024 15:51

Nono22972 · 02/03/2024 15:03

Honestly, this Where is Kate drama has been crazy. The conspiracy theories are wild: coma, abuse, divorce, death,... Some people really need to touch grass.

Maybe it's just me but I feel like it got more traction outside of the UK. People who are not royal watchers don't realise that Kate and William often take long breaks every few months, hence why they're called lazy. In 2021 or 2022, Kate was a no-show for more than 60 days.

My theory is that either:

  1. Kate had surgery, recovered, is totally fine but is using the illness as an excuse to not work because there's no way my sister, who I'm really close with, would be living it up on holiday while I'm having a medical crisis. That's probably why we haven't seen pictures of her family visiting her as well, she is fine

Or 2) She had surgery, is totally fine but has been dealing with a lot of stress these past few years and is suffering from a bit of mental exhaustion and is resting

Anyway, I wish her the best and hope she is okay

Wow how come they are allowed to take such long breaks and not be seen for 60 days plus.
Tax payers money and all.
Could they have 6 months off and not allow any pap pics? Not sure what the rules for Royals are???

wordler · 02/03/2024 16:34

Aquarius1234 · 02/03/2024 15:51

Wow how come they are allowed to take such long breaks and not be seen for 60 days plus.
Tax payers money and all.
Could they have 6 months off and not allow any pap pics? Not sure what the rules for Royals are???

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If you live on private estates with lots of land - and don’t have to leave to buy your own groceries then you will not be anywhere the paps can get to.

They have their own gyms, swimming pools, private places to socialize with friends and family.

As do most rich celebrities - most people who are ‘papped’ are choosing to be where they will get ‘papped’.

Tax payers money is used for expenses when on official engagements so if not doing official engagements are not spending any extra tax payers money.

We pay for our head of state which happens to be a constitutional monarchy. How he manages his ‘team’ of working royals is up to him - if he wants to give someone time off for sickness etc that’s up to him.

At the point the UK public don’t think this head of state option is what they want then they will vote something else in.

Being the wife of the heir is not a job - it’s a position/role. Each incumbent gets to work within that role in their own way with the approval of the monarch.

ItRainsItPours · 02/03/2024 16:45

@Aquarius1234 i think the imaginings of a teenager are probably very different to the reality.

Nono22972 · 02/03/2024 16:59

Aquarius1234 · 02/03/2024 15:42

I always wondered why Kate was so determined to go to same Uni as William and even followed him to same Gap year track. On purpose for sure. She swapped uni.
Considering she's often looked underweight since marrying him I wonder if she thinks it was worth it?
I mean I don't she would be quite the size she is if she wasn't a Royal.
But she chose that lifestyle and was more than up for dating him and marrying him.
So it's totally weird Considering she must have known all about it and had been followed for years. Why she wasn't able to just be more relaxed in her own body and mind.
For someone that knew what she was getting into for years. She never looks happy with bagging the Royal lifestyle.

You'd think someone that didn't just accidentally bump into William with no planning or mutual friends would be better at being who they want to be.

I don't know about her motives but I think she really loves William. If it was about money, she could've done a Pippa and married a rich aristocrat

They were together for 7 years before the engagement. During that time, the press harassed her and her family, the paparazzis were relentless. Then, it didn't really get better after marriage. She got a lot of bad press. There's a great article online about the coverage of Kate before Meghan and after Meghan. It is only when Meghan arrived that the press layed off because they had a new target.

So, pretty much 15 years of horrible coverage with people accusing you of having an ED, the constant public pressure, being under the spotlight...you couldn't pay me to go through that.

Also, I think that the "Kate is desperate to be Queen" is nonsense.

She moved her family from a palace to a much smaller home in the countryside. She drops her kids off to school and picks them up everyday. She doesn't work during the school breaks.

To me, it always looked like her dream life was to be a stay-at-home mum living a quiet life in the countryside

Fanisalwayson · 02/03/2024 17:05

I feel really sorry for her, can't imagine the dread she must be feeling at making her first public appearance knowing that literally the whole world will be scrutinizing her appearance. I hope it's on Easter Sunday at Sandringham and that she can 'hide' amongst everyone else to an extent poor woman.

Nono22972 · 02/03/2024 17:13

Gottseidank · 02/03/2024 15:42

Yes, yes… I’m sure you’re just another Sussex squad obsessive impartial poster who just so happens to have a convoluted explanation that completely ignores the facts.

What part of she is recovering well from
an operation and will resume duties at Easter do you struggle to understand?

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No, I'm not a member of the Squad.

I just said that Kate taking long breaks during engagements is not unusual.

We know that her operation went well, according to KP, and that she's recovering well.

She has the right not to disclose her medical issue, it's actually funny seeing the media trying to bait KP into giving more informations but given the statements and seeing Kate's sister on holiday, it just proves that Kate is doing fine, to me

PleaseBeHappier · 02/03/2024 17:15

I hope she is okay

Aquarius1234 · 02/03/2024 17:17

Nono22972 · 02/03/2024 16:59

I don't know about her motives but I think she really loves William. If it was about money, she could've done a Pippa and married a rich aristocrat

They were together for 7 years before the engagement. During that time, the press harassed her and her family, the paparazzis were relentless. Then, it didn't really get better after marriage. She got a lot of bad press. There's a great article online about the coverage of Kate before Meghan and after Meghan. It is only when Meghan arrived that the press layed off because they had a new target.

So, pretty much 15 years of horrible coverage with people accusing you of having an ED, the constant public pressure, being under the spotlight...you couldn't pay me to go through that.

Also, I think that the "Kate is desperate to be Queen" is nonsense.

She moved her family from a palace to a much smaller home in the countryside. She drops her kids off to school and picks them up everyday. She doesn't work during the school breaks.

To me, it always looked like her dream life was to be a stay-at-home mum living a quiet life in the countryside

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I doubt that dating William long term then marrying him.
No way that should or would be a quiet country lifestyle.

BoohooWoohoo · 02/03/2024 17:36

Nono22972 · 02/03/2024 15:03

Honestly, this Where is Kate drama has been crazy. The conspiracy theories are wild: coma, abuse, divorce, death,... Some people really need to touch grass.

Maybe it's just me but I feel like it got more traction outside of the UK. People who are not royal watchers don't realise that Kate and William often take long breaks every few months, hence why they're called lazy. In 2021 or 2022, Kate was a no-show for more than 60 days.

My theory is that either:

  1. Kate had surgery, recovered, is totally fine but is using the illness as an excuse to not work because there's no way my sister, who I'm really close with, would be living it up on holiday while I'm having a medical crisis. That's probably why we haven't seen pictures of her family visiting her as well, she is fine

Or 2) She had surgery, is totally fine but has been dealing with a lot of stress these past few years and is suffering from a bit of mental exhaustion and is resting

Anyway, I wish her the best and hope she is okay

with regards to 1

The conspiracy theorists have noted that it’s unclear when Pippa went on holiday. Some theories say that the tabloids sat on the photos and published them now to distract from the Kate story and that Pippa actually went away in December.

Quizine · 02/03/2024 17:38

I'm a bit puzzled by the fact that the press release said it was Planned surgery, yet they had a planned engagement in the diary for a trip Rome to include a Papal audience. That had to be cancelled because of the "planned" surgery.

It's all a bit odd if you ask me.

Nono22972 · 02/03/2024 17:40

Fanisalwayson · 02/03/2024 17:05

I feel really sorry for her, can't imagine the dread she must be feeling at making her first public appearance knowing that literally the whole world will be scrutinizing her appearance. I hope it's on Easter Sunday at Sandringham and that she can 'hide' amongst everyone else to an extent poor woman.

And notice how everyone is asking for "a proof of life", a video or a photo.

If KP were to release one, they would overanalyze every little detail, trying to find something wrong.

Serenster · 02/03/2024 17:41

I always wondered why Kate was so determined to go to same Uni as William and even followed him to same Gap year track. On purpose for sure

I always wonder how people who think this explain the fact that Kate arrived at St Andrews with a boyfriend and they were together for most of her first year. If she had gone there on purpose to pursue William, don’t you think she might have realised being single was a pretty important part of that strategy…?

Nono22972 · 02/03/2024 17:43

Quizine · 02/03/2024 17:38

I'm a bit puzzled by the fact that the press release said it was Planned surgery, yet they had a planned engagement in the diary for a trip Rome to include a Papal audience. That had to be cancelled because of the "planned" surgery.

It's all a bit odd if you ask me.

William not going to his godfather's memorial made people even more suspicious

Am I the only who wasn't surprised? People act like they were super close but he didn't even go to the actual funeral last year

Strangeness · 02/03/2024 17:43

Whenever I click on a bbc online news article, I presume it has been written by the work experience kid.

thecatsthecats · 02/03/2024 17:49

Quizine · 02/03/2024 17:38

I'm a bit puzzled by the fact that the press release said it was Planned surgery, yet they had a planned engagement in the diary for a trip Rome to include a Papal audience. That had to be cancelled because of the "planned" surgery.

It's all a bit odd if you ask me.

Planned means that the issue was identified and surgery booked in and arranged promptly.

It's to distinguish from emergency surgery, which is done as soon as the issue is identified.

My dad had planned surgery coming up for his gallbladder which became emergency surgery in the middle of the night.

Quizine · 02/03/2024 17:56

I do understand the difference between planned and emergency surgery. Seems that the initial (planned) procedure evolved into emergency surgery, although "planned" was the word used throughout.

MrsFinkelstein · 02/03/2024 18:31

Quizine · 02/03/2024 17:56

I do understand the difference between planned and emergency surgery. Seems that the initial (planned) procedure evolved into emergency surgery, although "planned" was the word used throughout.

"Planned surgery" is any surgery where the full team has had a chance to review the patient and a full range of tests done, and the patient has fasted the required length of time prior to theatre. The patient is scheduled on the planned theatre list.

Planned surgery can be planned from the day before (my daughter was diagnosed with rupturing appendix and had planned surgery the next day).

"Emergency surgery" is when the patient is taken immediately from (eg) A&E to theatre because any delay could lead to significant morbitities or mortality, and the theatre team may not be fully aware of the patient's medical history. The patient is unlikely to be fasted which means a significant anaesthetic risk.

She had planned surgery but it clearly was an escalating health issue and was likely scheduled just days before.

This previously unknown (by the public) health issues may well be the reason why she sometimes had "gaps" in her work diary. It may have meant she was debilitated in some way by flare ups.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 02/03/2024 18:39

Also, I think that the "Kate is desperate to be Queen" is nonsense

Kate doesn't have to be 'desperate.' She knows that at some point during the next twenty or so years, she IS going to be queen. She's not in a Shakespearean history play plotting to bump her FIL first chance she gets.

ItsAllAboutTheDosh · 02/03/2024 18:52

Uricon2 · 01/03/2024 11:03

I've only just seen it but I'm not sure why people are conflating a piece of film taken in London with anything at Sandringham. Kate is hardly the only VIP who would get protection in the UK.

Yes, accept William ducking out of the memorial service at the last moment was odd and has certainly fuelled speculation about Kate (some funny, some completely bonkers) However, we are a month from Easter and nothing has changed in terms of the timescale for her return to public life. It isn't as if it is now November and she's not been seen.

Even in the lowly world of local government there is generous sick leave to allow for recovery from surgery and employees there aren't expected to issue statements or send videos of them working from bed to their bosses. In her place, with the extra pressure of having to look bloody perfect all the time, I'd be v low profile too.

There is not generous sick leave, that went years ago.
And the palace initially said Catherine would be working from her bed.

EdithWeston · 02/03/2024 19:06

My theory (and it is only a theory) is that she may have been managing a condition for a considerable time; and it's one that, if it progresses in certain ways, requires surgery. And that recent monitoring showed that the time for surgery had come, and was therefore planned once need established, and without delay

I can think of a couple of conditions where that could apply, and where the time in hospital and the convalescent time would also be plausible.

Uricon2 · 02/03/2024 19:47

ItsAllAboutTheDosh · 02/03/2024 18:52

There is not generous sick leave, that went years ago.
And the palace initially said Catherine would be working from her bed.

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No, not so, I had 6 months full pay/another 6 half pay in local government in very recent years (and I really needed it) so don't make things up to fit an agenda and talk nonsense. You have to have a length of service, but it exists.

ItsAllAboutTheDosh · 02/03/2024 19:50

@Uricon2 You do not get that in the contracts my local authority now issue. I am not making it up. Simply stating the truth.
If you were taken on a long while ago, then yes that was once the standard entitlement.

Uricon2 · 02/03/2024 20:00

ItsAllAboutTheDosh · 02/03/2024 19:50

@Uricon2 You do not get that in the contracts my local authority now issue. I am not making it up. Simply stating the truth.
If you were taken on a long while ago, then yes that was once the standard entitlement.

Well, maybe so in your authority, doesn't make what I said untrue. I was there for several decades so maybe things have changed, the situation I refer to happened 3 years ago.

Also Kate is not actually employed in local government but rather an HRH and future Queen so actually its all a bit academic.

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