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Harry wants to come back and ‘help’

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Gottseidank · 16/02/2024 22:55

Harry “is willing to return to a temporary royal role in support of his father during his illness, sources have revealed. In an attempt to help heal the rift in the family, the King and Prince Harry are said to have had several “warm ­exchanges” since Charles ­received his cancer diagnosis.
The duke is now understood to have told friends that he would step into a royal role while his father is unwell.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

Revealed: Prince Harry ‘seeks royal return to heal rift with King Charles’

Duke said to have had warm exchanges with King after his father’s cancer diagnosis

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

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Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 17/02/2024 14:10

Would the public even accept him? Even those not in favour of the monarchy tend to respect the RFs dedication to duty and commitment, and H and M don't have this. Would the public even accept him as a stand in, someone who has publicly rejected and derided the monarchy? I don't think so.

LightsCameraBloodyDoSomething · 17/02/2024 14:28

OvaHere · 17/02/2024 12:15

Things might have turned out better if Charles had more than 2 children. The William/Harry generation is missing a Princess Anne character. 😁

It's Zara Tindall, if anyone, isn't it? Her face while the preacher went on during the H&M wedding was a picture!

But you're right, we could have done with her being the sister rather than the cousin!

Theunamedcat · 17/02/2024 14:28

Prydddan · 17/02/2024 12:07

@Theunamedcat

Which side do you think is leaking?

The government if I'm honest because having Harry going off giving interviews in America and throwing all sorts of accusations around is not a good look for the UK they probably want him back under the families strict control

But maybe Harry's camp as his trip to see his pa was perceived more negatively than positive

Looking back on interviews he hates the UK anyway him leaving was always a given so the question remains why would he ever want to come back

FloofCloud · 17/02/2024 14:32

OvaHere · 17/02/2024 12:15

Things might have turned out better if Charles had more than 2 children. The William/Harry generation is missing a Princess Anne character. 😁

Isn't that the truth!
Personally if anything actually happened, I suspect Hazza probably offered to help, perhaps as part of an apology (much needed apology IMO!). Nothing will come of it, he's been way too treacherous- plus much of the British public wouldn't welcome him in place of the king.

Coronateachingagain · 17/02/2024 14:34

They want to be the Prince and Princess of Canada on worldwide privacy tour once a month (excluding the UK to avoid too much booing).

That cartoon was quite enlightening after all

DistingusedSocialCommentator · 17/02/2024 14:39

lol - i dont normally every read stories like this but reading a few comments, defo a lol story - dont forget Mr Harry has a family of his own - it will never happen

daisychain01 · 17/02/2024 14:44

I'd be very very cautious if I were King Charles.

once the initial euphoria dies down, the "help while Papa is undergoing treatment" will develop massive scope creep and will come with a long list of conditions.

No such thing as a free Royal lunch as they say.

LightsCameraBloodyDoSomething · 17/02/2024 14:46

On topic, I just don't see how there is any way back for even Harry by himself unless he acknowledges, at the very least, how utterly wrong and unconstructive he had been to blab to the press and publishers at every opportunity.

Otherwise how will anyone ever even begin trust him enough to speak to him privately ever again? Even casually. Because they no longer know that even a conversation about the weather or the price of milk won't be spun and sold at some later date.

I think the chances of that sort of mea culpa are pretty much zero.

So. Indefinite impasse.

Honestly, I can see how a parent would throw caution to the wind in the desperation to be reconciled with a child - I expect I'd be the same - but nobody else with an ounce of sense will do so. Once the brother - whom he has also very clearly enraged - rather than the father is on the throne I should think there's absolutely no chance of re-entry, come what may.

Coronateachingagain · 17/02/2024 14:54

Thinking about it he probably got a cold shoulder on the offer.
There was no proper time spent together and he only said yeah yeah will visit every time I can.

Now watch if they start having family time together and the Palace allows the news. Then they will be onto something.

It would be really annoying if they get what they want and end up being an exiled Prince and wife with all privileges doing the odd private jet trip to Canada and other pleasant countries representing the Crown, without doing time in the home countries. The thought of it is disgusting

pipsfromthefuture · 17/02/2024 15:08

MrsFinkelstein · 17/02/2024 10:18

This is from The Times. When did Harry sue them?

You can make your point all you want about tabloids, but when you talk about broadsheets it's a different story. Broadsheets have far higher standards for publications. The Times have been pretty solid in all their Royal reporting.

Taking an overview also lends it more credibility.

Harry rushing over to see KC and briefing the Press fully about it beforehand.
The Sussex "rebrand" and recently focus on "Royal" type work and glossy SM photos released.
The focus on titles.

It's clearly been "leaked" from the Sussex camp. It's rehashing their preferred "half in" model from the Sandringham Summit.

Whether it's wishful thinking on their part, or a more concrete idea - who knows.

But it's interesting that the defence is always "H&M will never do that" - insert: Oprah interview, Netflix reality show, tell all book, interviews, collaborate with Scobie again, talk about his father's health. Now it's wanting back into the RF.

They will never do that.

Until they do.

Um The Times is a favourite of Buck and and Kensington. Constant leaking.

Royah Nikkah is a favourite of William's in particular.

pipsfromthefuture · 17/02/2024 15:17

IwishIcouldfinishabook · 17/02/2024 13:18

Yes quite. We have a ceremonial Head of State with absolutely no say or power. I dont know much about the Irish President, but does he have to draft in his children and grandchildren to help him do his job? I would imagine he does a lot more than the King as it is, without the hundreds of fawning servants.

Exactly

Vespanest · 17/02/2024 15:30

The constant which side is leaking, the majority of this crap is made up or like seen on here, my husbands, secretary best friends hair dresser said, so it must be true type of source.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 17/02/2024 15:31

Thunderbird7 · 17/02/2024 13:56

Why not have Beatrice, Eugenie, Louise & James be working royals for a bit until the Wales kids are old enough. I honestly think the monarchy is doing too much anyway. They’re supposed to be figureheads.

The problem is you can’t really just draft people in for a while. If you ask people to take 10/15 years out of their own careers, especially at the start of careers as Louise and James would be, then they end up being working royals for life and people are ok with that for a while, but after a certain point they start being seen as hangars on and freeloaders.

Thats what happened to the Duke of Gloucester in a way. He wasn’t expected to be a working royal. He was an architect and by all accounts doing well. He got married and he and his wife expected to pop up at a couple of events a year when the extended family all gathered. Then his brother died, his father died and he was the Duke with a full time role for his cousin QEII for many years (and still going).
Now whenever he appears at events you get people asking who he is, why he’s there and why we’re funding all these hangars on.

sunshinethroughmywindow · 17/02/2024 15:40

Lockupyourbiscuits · 17/02/2024 08:51

The day someone came up with Invictus ( I don’t believe it was Harry ) and let him head it was the biggest mistake of the Royal Family
They should have kept it under the monarch and let individual members including Harry support it so it boosted the Royal Family as a whole

He has basically run off with something brilliant set up by the Royal Family and is living in PR heaven off it

Without Invictus Harry and Meghan would have very little
They basically elevated the spare above the heir by giving it to him - no wonder he thought he was better and could do a flounce

This is so true - Harry has used the Invictus Games as a massive PR exercise since they 'left' the Royal Family.

Idmiid · 17/02/2024 15:55

I would imagine Harry coming back, albeit temporarily has the potential to lead to more tensions and further recriminations. Would he be willing to undertake the opening up recycle centre type roles usually done by Princess Anne or does he have in mind doing the Commonwealth visits that have been postponed because of Charles' illness. Will he make a fuss if he doesn't get the projects wants? Will he cope any negative coverage and comment in the press. All things which he has stated have impacted on his mental health.He may have good intentions and sees this as a way to show his love for his father but maybe the best the way is for them all to focus on repairing family relationship and rebuilding trust first. Or is this a cynical move towards arguing again for half in half out. The rebranding of their website to beef up his royal credentials, the call for Sir and Ma'am but who knows.

In my opinion, not that it counts, is that this there should be a separation between family relations and the roles associated with the Head of State. Yes family members do undertake those roles but they should be done in a professional manner, in public service and not ego driven. This whole sorry saga has conflated the two and has become a soap opera played out in the tabliuds, social media and tell all books. Perhaps the slimming down of the monarchy should be along the lines of the Scandinavian countries and just involve the monarch and heir. Or even a review on whether there should be a monarchy at all.

I was reading the comments in the Independent. The usual two camps type but the one from SWPete made me chuckle

Harry wants to come back and ‘help’
Wizzadorra70 · 17/02/2024 16:04

I have little sympathy for the RF. They've enabled this shitshow by letting them both move to the US and trade off their titles. I wouldn't blame William at all if he chose to remove himself from it all as well - he's the one who is going to be left to deal with Harry in the long run. Charles is a weak man for allowing this. His reign will be remembered in history but not for the reasons he's hoping.

Viviennemary · 17/02/2024 16:08

Who knows if this story is true but I suppose it must have come from somewhere. Cant see Harry is sufficiently trusted to let back in. Too risky. He might go blabbing again if he trips over a dog bowl.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 17/02/2024 16:10

Wizzadorra70 · 17/02/2024 16:04

I have little sympathy for the RF. They've enabled this shitshow by letting them both move to the US and trade off their titles. I wouldn't blame William at all if he chose to remove himself from it all as well - he's the one who is going to be left to deal with Harry in the long run. Charles is a weak man for allowing this. His reign will be remembered in history but not for the reasons he's hoping.

William won’t remove himself from it as he’d just be landing it on George’s shoulders earlier.

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 17/02/2024 16:11

I couldn't care less about the RF.
However, given the contents of H's book I can't see how William would ever let him have a role.

pipsfromthefuture · 17/02/2024 16:12

Viviennemary · 17/02/2024 16:08

Who knows if this story is true but I suppose it must have come from somewhere. Cant see Harry is sufficiently trusted to let back in. Too risky. He might go blabbing again if he trips over a dog bowl.

Making a joke of violence and assault is disgusting and never funny.

Lockupyourbiscuits · 17/02/2024 16:31

pipsfromthefuture · 17/02/2024 16:12

Making a joke of violence and assault is disgusting and never funny.

More disgusting is slandering someone who can’t defend themselves
( and talking about your penis 🤢)

seascape124 · 17/02/2024 16:31

Having a parent with cancer is life changing. It's good he wants to support in anyway he can if it's true.

pipsfromthefuture · 17/02/2024 16:40

Lockupyourbiscuits · 17/02/2024 16:31

More disgusting is slandering someone who can’t defend themselves
( and talking about your penis 🤢)

Can't and won't are two different things. As is 'slander'.

Like I said, having a laugh at violence and abuse is disgusting and says much about people. That's all I'll say about it.

Vespanest · 17/02/2024 16:42

I can imagine a conversation of Harry “if there’s anything you need, I’m here for you” with Charles replying “anything?” It’s what most people say on bad news but very few actually meaning it.

Lockupyourbiscuits · 17/02/2024 16:50

pipsfromthefuture · 17/02/2024 16:40

Can't and won't are two different things. As is 'slander'.

Like I said, having a laugh at violence and abuse is disgusting and says much about people. That's all I'll say about it.

No one is laughing at violence - because it likely didn’t happen
I think there are two sides to the dog bowl story and we have only heard one

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