Harry & Meghan change their surname

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… from Mountbatten-Windsor to ‘Sussex’.
Apparently it’s to strengthen their brand.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-meghan-sussex-archie-lilibet-children-name-royal-title-cnvf7d9jf

What difference does it make morally?

If anything, surely it's to his credit that he was more attracted to personality than conventional looks and popularity.

I don't think anyone should be hacked.

Especially Charles with that tampongate stuff.
It would've come out eventually anyway

How would a private conversation between two people, come out anyway???
Unless you're hacked ?

It's used against him because at the time the conversation took place, both he, the future King, and Camilla, were both married to other people. He was committing adultery and this was unacceptable especially as he would one day be the head of the Church of England.

With respect - if the purpose was to prove adultery then the conversation itself did not need to be transcribed and published. It was published because it was salacious pure and simple. I have no time for either of them - I still think that publishing that conversation was appalling.

Not the private conversation. Nor should it be.

I am talking about the affair. What happened with that revolting hack brought it to the front. That would've happened anyway

Exactly - the affair between Charles and Camilla was very well known in certain circles. It was bound to come out.

No need for extra salacious details from hacking.

Nor the expectation that we’re all stupid enough to believe the hacking and recording was purely accidental by an amateur

And, presumably, Diana's affairs?

In my personal opinion the only time listening to private conversations is acceptable, is if it's done by the secret service, and involves serious crimes or life and death situations and they never release these to the public for our general enjoyment anyway!

Thank you.

I am just saying it brought things to a head.

Hacking should not happen. But the result would've been the same without it.

@ArcaneWireless no talking pish or double standards clowns , it's really a pity you can't debate without calling people names. You have also made huge assumptions as I have actually stood up for the royal family many times and I'm not a huge M n H fan. Thats the problem on here , many are so black and white that they can't see that the issues between the RF and H n M are many and nuanced and that none of them really come out of it looking great. It would be nice to be able to have a discussion on here without people over reacting, so determined to prove that their side has no fault

I disagree that phone hacking can be acceptable but the point with the tampon phone conversation - like hearsay illegally revealed in front of a jury in the Crown Court - is that it can't be unheard. In this case it showed us something of the person we are now expected to respect as Head of State and the conversation makes that extremely difficult, and him look absurd - and a cheat.

He is a cheat though, should his phone have been hacked? No

No his phone shouldn't have been hacked but it was and the evidence can't be unheard that he's not really a character one has any reason to respect.

Plus - as pp have explained many times upthread, the whole tampon thing has been misquoted in order to misrepresent, on top of everything else.

Judge him on what he does, how he acts, what he says in public.
Not this.

I agree. You can't unhear it.

My point is.... the marriage was going to break up. This hastened it.

Not far. Yes

Ineveitable. Yes

I mean yes it's been misrepresented but tampons were in the mix of the conversation which was frankly ridiculous.

So - to get back to the question . I don't give a flying hoot what surname H&M give their children. What I would say ( and this is a personal opinion only ) I think it it obvious to a blind man on a galloping horse they are hanging on to their Royal connections by their fingernails , because to be honest Captain Wales and his actor wife would not be able to do half of what they do if Harry were not youngest son of KC. So I do find it a bit gauche that they promote themselves so much as part of the RF when they don't help out even a little bit. But I suspect even those across the pond won't take them as "royals" forever unless they can find something they are actually good at.

I agree BasiliskStare. But equally I wonder what any of the rf this side of the pond are actually good at.

So you've never said anything silly in a private conversation to a loved on?
I suspect most people have!

That it was a ridiculous line of chat (which sneaky phone calls between people often are) doesn’t make the total twisting and misrepresentation any better.

They didn't misrepresent him having an affair

And that was the big one, and the duplicity which went with it.

Yes

This