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The royal family

Indifference to PoW?

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FaiIureToLunch · 28/01/2024 08:51

I find it strange that there’s no real interest or concern from the public about POW being in hospital. Nobody seems to be that bothered. If you compare it to the circus if Diana had been in the same situation….. I just find it odd. I always thought she was relatively popular because we’re constantly told she is but actually…. Tumbleweed.

I know it’s her own business etc but it just feels quite odd that somebody can disappear and there is no interest in why. I don’t really know or care what’s happened or why, but the silence is really intriguing. It reminds me of when the brexit referendum happened and I had no idea that there was such strong feeling about the EU…. I had no idea that there was such apathy about the PoW until now. It’s been a real eye opener for me.

I reckon the next generation or two, the monarchy will be gone.

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inthepottythistime · 02/02/2024 13:25

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The point here is, though, is that it’s a “rumour” as you say. It doesn’t matter where it is repeated, in print or orally. It is very possible that the “rumour” was started by someone who wished to deliberately spread something to reflect negatively on the Wales’ marriage. The fact that it is widespread doesn’t make it true.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 02/02/2024 13:26

Definition of rumour

an unofficial interesting story or piece of news that might be that might be true or invented and and quickly spreads from person to person

Definition of truth

The truth about something is all the facts about it, rather than things that are imagined or invented. Or rumoured, come to that (my addition)

jeffgoldblum · 02/02/2024 13:26

Yep @ArcaneWireless , almost tempted! , I won't obviously but honestly if the rumours are true it make's William apparently cheating on Kate look like a walk in the park!

Roussette · 02/02/2024 13:26

wildernesssw · 02/02/2024 13:17

tbh it is the business of the husband/wife and no one else.

In the absence of any proof or public statement I'll put it down to random gossip and give the benefit of the doubt to the people involved.

This I agree with.

It only becomes public knowledge when it implodes as it has to all the people I have mentioned in my last post... divorce, messy seperations, etc.

Roussette · 02/02/2024 13:29

Not 'all the people'. The Queen and PPhilip had a happy extremely long lasting marriage

inthepottythistime · 02/02/2024 13:46

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goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 13:46

Maybe the person who shared it with you 'orally' lives under a bridge too

Haha no very much not under a bridge.

Shrieking is a word I used deliberately. The responses are quite out of proportion to a perfectly balanced few posts. Outrage would do adequately too.

The idea that any member of that social circle would go to the press is laughable. People are not going to self destruct socially for a couple of minutes of press time. It's not important enough, just a thing for a while. I don't think anyone actually cares, but lots of people like a scandal. It's in the nature of things to talk mutually, especially when it's just known in a circle. Camilla's affair was very widely known in army circles at the time - would there have been this level of angst if MN had been in existence in the 80s and I had posted that Charles was a cheat?

ArcaneWireless · 02/02/2024 13:57

There are a lot of things ‘very widely known’ in Forces circles.

Not as long ago as the example you refer to either.

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ArcaneWireless · 02/02/2024 14:01

“Just do a google search.”

wildernesssw · 02/02/2024 14:01

Some of Harry's behaviour, I imagine. There's plenty of gossip on SM channels. But nothing I would repeat unless there's some actual evidence.

Serenster · 02/02/2024 14:04

So it is a well known rumour

Of course it is a well-known rumour! William and Kate are two of the most famous people in the western world. Still doesn’t make it true though.

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 14:05

ArcaneWireless this particular thing, which I cited, was 'very widely known' at the time I was an 'army wife' and I cited it because it has subsequently been proved without any shadow of a doubt to have been true. I don't think your point has any bearing on mine.

jeffgoldblum · 02/02/2024 14:07

Yep @wildernesssw ! Those with military background have heard about it for years and it's freely discussed on military forums, however it's very damaging if the rumours are true .
No one will post it here !

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 14:11

My point was that at the time Camilla's continuing relationship with Charles was 'widely known' in army circles and was bang on the money.

Serenster · 02/02/2024 14:11

it has subsequently been proved without any shadow of a doubt to have been true.

You keep saying this. But we also know the press, who have been trying really hard to stand up a story on this (because, obviously, it would be huge) can’t find proof. Which makes it highly unlikely that there is “cast iron proof” out there, widely known in your circles that somehow stays totally protected from disclosure to any journalists (who definitely have sources in military circles).

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 14:12

But gosh, big attempt to sidetrack from the point that things which are well known are often well founded too.

ArcaneWireless · 02/02/2024 14:12

Likewise @wildernesssw

Just being told it is ‘solid’ isn’t enough for me.

But just because it is widely known does not necessarily make it true.

I look forward to the discussion if, with the passage of time, the incidents come to light and are shown to be so.

Some of my ex colleagues will no doubt be delighted to add their tuppence.

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 14:13

Serenster you seem to be conflating more than one thing. Also wheeling in a small inaccuracy or two in what I have actually said.

wildernesssw · 02/02/2024 14:15

The rumours in army circles about aspects of Harry's activities put a mere 'consensual affair' well into the shade.

As I said before, unless there is some proof I assume it is unpleasant gossip and there is nothing to answer by the people concerned.

People's lives have been destroyed by unsubstantiated gossip.

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 14:15

But just because it is widely known does not necessarily make it true

Correct. But there is often a coincidence of the two things: widely known and true.

ArcaneWireless · 02/02/2024 14:16

And alleged affairs are not a sidetrack from the subject matter?

It’ll be just the same as every other Royal Thread then.

goodbyestranger · 02/02/2024 14:16

Really trying hard to move the conversation to Harry! Extraordinary!

Not sure Kate consented to any affair on the part of William.

ArcaneWireless · 02/02/2024 14:17

Gosh.

Extraordinary indeed.

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