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Extensive Phone Hacking by MGN

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Roussette · 15/12/2023 11:04

So... Harry has won his case.

As lawyers are saying now... this is massive. 15 out of 33 accusations of hacking by Harry were upheld as a result of phone hacking and other illegal practices.
Hacking and blagging were even taking place during the Leveson enquiry.

He has won damages of £140,000 plus. And before this thread descends into Harry hate, please think of all the other claimants who have also had their claims upheld and damages awarded to them. They went through hell, medical records hacked and reported on, trackers on cars, phones hacked...

It's not about the money, it's about 'accountability of power'.

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Roussette · 15/12/2023 17:24

I will never forget the account of the day and a half (or so) that Harry spent giving evidence in the witness box this year, with supposedly 'rottweiler' lawyers failing to land a single fatal blow. Meanwhile, people on here and elsewhere were feeling entitled to call him "stupid" and "brainless" etc. As if contributing towards putting together a WINNING case against the tabloid media behemoths of the UK were some trivial feat.

Well said. A lawyer this morning when discussing the case that that MNG's legal defence was enormous in number and money thrown at it whereas the claimants was 'paltry' in comparison.

The truth won through

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Maireas · 15/12/2023 17:25

Heather Mills was the subject of vile bullying. I know there were all sorts of issues, but her treatment by the press was shocking.

Roussette · 15/12/2023 17:27

@ThisisgroundcontroltoMajorTom

Yes to your post. Absolutely. Please come on our Politics thread. You will be valued!
I better not link it, in case it's against TG, but it's in Chat and called "Thread 34 Sunak - the Circus is back in Westminster'

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Roussette · 15/12/2023 17:31

Yep. I think the thing is with Piers Morgan... you are either with him or you're the enemy. Camilla is with him and shown him 'gratitude' apparently.

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Maireas · 15/12/2023 17:32

How has Camilla shown her "gratitude", exactly?

Roussette · 15/12/2023 17:35

Do not think Maireas I am talking about money or anything so sordid. She thanked him for his support as I understand it. There's plenty out there saying this. Who knows. But she is happy to be in his company as we know from her Christmas lunch last year. Along with Jeremy Clarkson.

Anyway, don't mean to derail... back to the thread.

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Novella4 · 15/12/2023 17:36

Thanks for this thread Roussette.
I have to catch up with the details but the individuals who take the press on are to be applauded .
No wonder the hate propaganda has been ramped up recently

Maireas · 15/12/2023 17:40

Who told you she thanked him for his support?
I know that last year they were both at a particular lunch, but I don't know how much evidence there is that Camilla thanked Morgan for anything. I don't know her, of course, you may know better.

Maireas · 15/12/2023 17:42

However. I have seen pictures of Piers Morgan warmly embracing Beatrice and Eugenie outside a restaurant. They're clearly good friends.

TallerSally · 15/12/2023 17:45

Novella4 · 15/12/2023 17:36

Thanks for this thread Roussette.
I have to catch up with the details but the individuals who take the press on are to be applauded .
No wonder the hate propaganda has been ramped up recently

Indeed, the hate propaganda was completely unhinged in the past week.

The Spectator gleefully splashed "Prince Harry loses (again)" last week in relation to the Daily Mail libel case, which is only proceeding to trial, and we shall see how it plays out, given today's ruling. Some folks may end up with even more egg on their faces!

And the haters were losing their sh*t because some random nonentity at Hollywood Reporter sent some of the usual cheap clickbait insults Meghan and Harry's way.

So good to see Harry and Meghan ignoring all the puerile, spiteful noise and getting on with their personal missions, philanthropy and sticking it to the witless British/Murdoch tabloid media!

Myfabby · 15/12/2023 17:48

Maireas · 15/12/2023 17:40

Who told you she thanked him for his support?
I know that last year they were both at a particular lunch, but I don't know how much evidence there is that Camilla thanked Morgan for anything. I don't know her, of course, you may know better.

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Let's focus on todays victory shall we? 😆

Maireas · 15/12/2023 17:51

Myfabby · 15/12/2023 17:48

Let's focus on todays victory shall we? 😆

That's what I was doing. I didn't raise the topic of Camilla.
I just wondered how a poster knew that Camilla thanked Piers Morgan. Their claim, their post.
Not raised by me. At all. 😆

Cakester · 15/12/2023 17:54

From the judgement, regarding all of the other claims, how they selected which ones would go ahead and what it means for the others:

There are 148 published articles on which the Duke of Sussex relies; 37 for Ms Sanderson, 28 for Mr Turner and only 2 for Ms Wightman. In order to make the trial manageable within the 7 weeks allotted for it, a selection of 33 of Prince Harry’s articles was agreed by the parties as a representative sample. This includes articles chosen by either side, so for that reason some are likely more strongly to support the Duke’s case and others are more likely to support MGN’s case that the article contained only material already in the public domain or facts that were not within the scope of Article 8 protection at all. The articles were also selected to cover the full period about which the Duke complains that UIG was being conducted, namely 1996 – 2011. It is expected that determination of this sample, in his case, will enable him and MGN to resolve the remainder of his claim by agreement. As will become apparent, the Duke appeared much more concerned to establish the full, broad picture about MGN’s illegal activities than to be compensated for individual instances of UIG.

unbelieveable22 · 15/12/2023 17:57

Piers Morgan trending all over social media and not in a positive way. The last line of his dramatic speech is chilling.
Sounds like a threat 'I will continue to try and do whatever I can to stop them ' referring to Harry and 'his wife'. The language used is not dissimilar to some read on here. Could he possibly reading some of the posts? 😄
Deflections not working here 😉

Novella4 · 15/12/2023 17:58

Absolutely @TallerSally !
Those fighting in the open to improve media standards should be applauded .

Reymanridesagain · 15/12/2023 17:59

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Roussette · 15/12/2023 18:04

Piers Morgan is hitting out at anyone and everyone.

What I don't understand, and maybe someone can explain to me?

I have linked him on here on camera admitting he listened to a message. When pushed he said, yes it was a voicemail message.

How would he listen to Heather Mills McCartney's voicemail message if it hasn't been hacked?

Does he think this footage doesn't exist? My link was him at the Leveson enquiry

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LambriniBobinIsleworth · 15/12/2023 18:07

PM sounds increasingly barking mad. Good for Harry, I say.

Myfabby · 15/12/2023 18:08

LambriniBobinIsleworth · 15/12/2023 18:07

PM sounds increasingly barking mad. Good for Harry, I say.

and scared....

meercat23 · 15/12/2023 18:08

Lockupyourbiscuits · 15/12/2023 15:49

Moving from the ruling I can’t understand why someone from the royal family would continue leaving messages on voicemails of others and wouldn’t warn people against leaving messages on theirs
Surely this should have been advised against from a security point of view
Im only referring to the Royals (who had previously had phone calls intercepted )

I would think can you call me back would be sufficient

I don't think all of the hacking was confined to remote access to voicemails. The early hacking of Charles and Camilla and of Diana resulted in reports of whole very personal conversations. I suspect that even now we don't know the half of it.

I have a relative who works as a journalist. As soon as he got his first job as a very junior reporter om the 90s he told us all to check that our phones and voicemails were properly protected with passwords. That suggests that new employees were let in on how to access/hack right from the start of their employment.

Cakester · 15/12/2023 18:08

I am reading through the judgement,

MGN emerged largely unscathed from the Leveson Inquiry. The decision was obviously taken at a high level that MGN’s interests were best served by keeping a lid on as much as possible of what had happened. I shall return to that in Part IV. It was only when that objective became impossible, on account of Police investigations and persistent disclosure applications in the MNHL, that the admissions began to emerge. Even today, MGN is not being open about the extent to which VMI and UIG went on at its newspapers.

(Voicemail interception and Unlawful information gathering )

Roussette · 15/12/2023 18:13

The early hacking of Charles and Camilla

As I understand it (and happy to be corrected) tampongate was as a result of a radio ham, an amateur radio enthusiast. It was a very different time back then.

(I used to be able to tune my very ordinary radio in to police messsages back then!)
Times have changed quite obviously

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/12/2023 18:18

As I understand it (and happy to be corrected) tampongate was as a result of a radio ham, an amateur radio enthusiast

You're right, Roussette; that's what was said at the time, though frankly it always sounded a bit unlikely to me, given nobody was ever prosecuted

Then again, perhaps they didn't want the continued attention to the story that would have created ...

GrazingSheep · 15/12/2023 18:26

Has Piers Morgan committed perjury?