Omid Scobie's New Book - PART 2

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I'm not sure what is the correct etiquette for carrying on a thread, but here we are. Thanks to @BoxedandRibboned for the original thread.

Original thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4935714-omid-scobies-new-book?page=40&reply=131041571

Do they have any other projects with Netflix ? While undoubtedly worthy, the Invictus series didn’t exactly set the heather alight .,

I suspect Meghan gets very heavy discounts or freebies or loan of dresses / jewellery for wearing them in public. etc. I think I have read before she likes a promotional gift & didn't understand why as part of the RF she could not have this - but that is hearsay not facts I know.

"Meet Me At The Lake" rights are held by Netflix (some minor chick lit book loosely based on H&M and written by a fan). Rumours about them producing or possibly M starring. They'll need to change the names - I think the male character is called Will and the female's surname Brookbanks!

The thing is, 'worthy' documentaries aren't what viewers want. They want scandal and intrigue. That's why the Harry and Meghan 'documentary' last year was a hit, but it's not really something they can repeat. They have no obvious skills to bring to the table, so selling royal gossip is all they really have. Trouble is, that's gone very stale at this point.

NRTFT, but if they dislike the RF so much, why don’t they renounce all their titles, refuse the titles of prince/princess for their children, and become commoners again? Then ride off into the Californian sunset to live a life of luxury and stop whining?

IMO, Catherine has grown in confidence and genuinely looks to be enjoying herself in her public appearances, because she is not an actress like Meghan! Her dignified silence puts her in a class above Meghan!

It was Harry, who talked about genetic pain, so surely he should appreciate Catherine trying to break that cycle of emotional neglect of the children, by being a hands on mother to hers?

Can you imagine the level of competitive parenting and comparisons between kids if they’d stayed in the UK?

And I don’t mean from others - M&H seems to be obsessed with comparing themselves with others, especially comparing Meghan with Catherine. I’d imagine it would be off the scale, any chance taken to pull Catherine/her kids down and any praise in the media of them perceived and interpreted as a direct slight towards their own kids, and dressed up with a racism bow on top.

So how did Scobie know about the content of a private letter between Meghan and Charles?

Who lies crying on the floor over a dress? I think I'd save sobbing hysterically on the floor for something really really tragic. Either she was manipulating H or he made that up.

I agree it would be awful. And it still might be but at least there is an ocean between them and they’ll be so different in upbringing it’ll be harder for media etc to compare. Despite the stresses and strains of the last 3 years I bet William and Kate are pleased Harry has left the U.K. ultimately it’s for the best as it would never have worked with h and m staying in the royal family. Paradoxically Harry has solved that problem for them and he is no longer William’s responsibility.
But I am sure ultimately they wish he had never met Meghan but maybe this was always going to happen ( just a slightly different version with a different wife) as he clearly was unhappy.

I don't think Harry was every going to be good husband material, to be honest. He's picked a strong woman but I don't envy her role in "managing" him. But if he'd picked a weaker character, God help her!

@themessygarden It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Guardian timed that investigation to coordinate with Endgame's release date - possibly in the hope of a 2 pronged attack on the RF.

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That’s what I was thinking too!

I am not sure I have ever been sobbing in a heap on the floor in my whole life, except maybe during the errible twos and even then I am skeptical. My mum wasn’t the type for “Gentle Parenting” 😁

I don't know, the not that comes out there less sure I am that Harry and Meghan didn't contribute even if that may have happened a while ago before they stopped talking about the royals.

I was referring to the accusation that Catherine was outed as the royal racist by the letters, I don't think it's that clear.

Well, she's American.

I do wonder if M&H regret their actions sometimes.

I would posit the notion that if they don’t, they will certainly come to regret their association with this eggy chunterer. I wonder what else he is sitting on?

I feel very sorry for the royal family but I really feel for Catherine. I do. From the outside looking in, I think she had once a lovely relationship with Harry. One which that grew over time and they both looked as though they were genuinely happy to be in eachother’s company.

How devastating to be attacked by a person with a very close association to someone you once thought deeply cared about you.

OS is coming across as bitter and nasty but why? He has no reason to be so vitriolic. Not even for book sales.

It isn’t surprising that folk are putting two and two together. They won’t be far wrong.

It is fairly a tutorial in burning your bridges.

Doubt I would be able to get back up these days !

Dr Tessa Dunlop (one of their fans) says that Harry's Africa documentary will be happening, as one of her friends has been asked to take part in it. But it won't be particularly "heavy". I have no idea why he thinks he is uniquely qualified to make a doc about Africa.

The royal racist story gets murkier and murkier.

Meghan tells Oprah there were conversations about her baby’s potential skin colour - I can’t remember if she specifically said it was while she was pregnant but she implied it.

Harry tells Oprah in the second part of the interview that it was one conversation which took place before they were even married - so never specifically about Archie. He says something like “I won’t ever name that person” - implying it was one person and they were in conversation with Harry who then relayed the info to Meghan.

Scobie now says there were two people who said something about skin colour and it wasn’t a conversation that Harry was part of because he heard about it later and then he told Meghan.

But apart from saying it was definitely not the Queen or PP they wont say who it was or - which is much more important, EXACTLY what was said.

And now I also want to know who was the third party who told Harry and how was that information relayed - because the tone of that person could have changed the whole meaning of the original remarks.

“Gosh I wonder what their babies will look like?” >>>>> “They were worried about what the babies will look like”

That's what struck me, @ArcaneWireless - William, Kate and Harry always seemed so happy together. Harry's speech at W&K's wedding paid tribute to Kate as the sister he never had, they clearly all got on well. As recently as 2018 Harry was part of a documentary tribute to his father on the occasion of his 70th birthday. Both he and William praised Charles for his hard work, his genuine interest in people, for being ahead of the curve with ecology and sustainablility. Harry had such kind and positive things to say, and agreed with William throughout.

I can’t imagine “Harry in Africa” is the type of documentary that would sit well today; I’d be surprised if any studio would want to touch it. It would be problematic: is he just a tourist? Prince Harry of the Commonwealth? Mr White Saviour?

Considering he used to go big game hunting in Arica, I don't know how he could be taken seriously on that one either.

The only way I could see that working at all would be if the focus were on the local people and their lives, and Harry was just a high profile 'hook'.

But even so, I can't see it being a huge hit with viewers. 4 years on from finding freedom, it seems the public is only interested in Harry and his wife when they're slagging off his family. And even that is getting dull.

I think it was always going to happen too. Harry is not cut out for the life of public engagements etc. He hasn't got the character for it. It was madness that they were elevated to that status in the first place because she is even less suited to it. She may be great at looking good, smiling and posing, but she is ultimately totally self interested and not at all a team player. She never showed the slightest interest in learning about the Uk or the culture here, or even understanding how the RF operate. From the start she seems to have believed she could do just what she wanted, whilst living in palatial splendour with all the clothes and jewels. No one telling her what to do, and not having to consult with anyone but Harry. It's hard to understand why she was so deluded. It's best for both of them that they are making their own lives abroad and in a completely different culture. It's just a pity Harry didn't marry someone who would make an effort with his family, soothe him and regulate him rather than exacerbate all his worst characteristics and encourage his paranoia and sense of being hard done by. She just couldn't have been worse for him in that way. She dominates and literally steers him around, so that he looks and appears like a sulky little boy with his nanny. Interestingly, when he's alone he often looks a lot more relaxed and actually smiles at times.

A quote by OS

Hardly a surprise that the twisting of facts and misquoting going on right now has reached new levels of desperation.

I know how I am reading that…. and it isn’t probably how he meant it.

Never a truer word.

Oh the irony!