Omid Scobie's New Book - PART 2

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I'm not sure what is the correct etiquette for carrying on a thread, but here we are. Thanks to @BoxedandRibboned for the original thread.

Original thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4935714-omid-scobies-new-book?page=40&reply=131041571

I feel really sorry for William in all of this - how awful to have a vindictive, backstabbing brother and SIL who refuse to take any personal responsibility.

What stands out for me is just how parentified William was for a young age. He seemed to take on responsibility for Harry even before Diana's death but even more so after. He seemed to go to great lengths to include Harry in his family life with Kate but Harry didn't seem to value that at all. The expectation that William would "take care" of Harry and make allowances for his behaviour towards him, his wife and his kids when Harry was a man his 30s was quite extraordinary. It's odd that everyone seems shocked when William put up boundaries with his brother and SIL who seem happy to attack them at every opportunity.

He seemed to take on responsibility for Diana as well as her confidant and comforting her when distressed (passing tissues under the door when she was sobbing) which was a huge pressure to put on a pre/early teen. It seems as though William was expected to be the mature/supportive one from an early age.

Charles always seems to have behaved in accordance with his mother's generation. He seems to have been born an old fogey. Charles was only 33 when William was born but acted like he was 63. The relationship between Charles and his sons seems like the formal relationship between a kindly uncle and nephew than a youngish dad and son.

Not a surprise that he decided to step away from the drama for his own sanity.

The BBC have an interesting and slightly amusing report on this. It points out that it is rather odd that what would be the biggest bombshell in the entire book is sort of buried in the middle with no fanfare and no follow up. book: How could the royal naming mistake happen? www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67565898 See here

Same thing with the Queen. Didn't visit her at Balmoral whilst alive but couldn't wait to get up there once she died. Because they'd be on the front page.

Didn't visit her at Balmoral whilst alive but couldn't wait to get up there once she died.

There’s a very funny passage in Endgame about Meghan and Harry saying that they hadn’t taken advantage of the standing invitation to the Royal family to spend time at Balmoral over summer in 2019 because at 4 months old, Archie was too young for the hunting, shootings and fishing events that holidays in Balmoral involved (🤣). So they flew to Eltons John’s South of France villa instead.

Many thanks, @smilesy; a lot of food for thought there, though frankly I'm left thinking the same as so many: What a bloody mess

How can he retract the names.

They've already said it was a senior royal.

So one of about 6.

And already said it wasn't Prince Philip or the Queen.

So if they say it isn't the 2 people who were named.

There is really only 2 people it could be. It's really a matter of deduction.

It's like a game of Cluedo- it was Miss Scarlett with the lead piping. ( obviously wont put the other named royals in there- for obvious reasons.)

Do I spy the beginning of Scobie's personal endgame? The DM is now running a headline piece which, for them, is surprisingly pro-HM and MM, saying that they had chosen to walk back from the race row but Scobie's reignited it. The DM talks of HIS obsession with it, rather than theirs. I wonder if the word is now being put out from their camp to distance them from him.

@PurplePansy05 thank you for coming back and giving us your views straight from the source (or sauce😂) material. Very interesting posts. It almost sounds like a bad school essay assignment (a bit of ill researched “fact” followed by random, ill considered opinion).

Are you really going to wrap your Vinted parcels in it? I’d be absolutely tickled to get a parcel wrapped in crazy!

If you know that something is factually incorrect and damaging it can’t be left because it would be damaging to another party. It would also be terrible if he was to be sued. This is also about the author and publisher integrity.

The Dutch publisher are claiming that is was an error, rather than a problem with translation.

I am, I like to recycle ♻️ 🙌🤷🏼‍♀️

But HOW could such an error have taken place?
Either the names were present, or they were not?

Does the book not get proofread before publication ?

Will heads roll over this?

The Dutch journalist, Rick Evers, who discovered the passage naming the names, says the books are still in bookshops and selling, and that dutch journal have had advance copies for a week. And he says it is not a translation error. He says there are two whole paragraphs in the Dutch version that are not in the English version!

He said: 'Unfortunately, those are two names that I have to keep to myself for now. But I do wonder if that might change over the future. It does seem that Harry and Meghan have decided to put that to rest.'

It doesn’t seem as though anything has been put to rest at all.

The veiled threat is still there. And someone told him the names. And seemingly putting it to rest is not the same as doing so.

Unfortunately OS has form as being a mouthpiece for the two of them. Nothing in that article or book excerpts have convinced me otherwise that things are any different now.

He may or may not be obsessed with it all. Not half as obsessed as some who are waggling it like the sword of Damocles over the RF’s heads.

One statement over what was said, the context and the people who said it would put this to bed once and for all. One statement.

And that won’t happen because some seem to be enjoying the drama just that little bit too much. And may or may not be concerned as to how that statement would affect them in the future in all manner of ways.

Shameful.

He says there are two whole paragraphs in the Dutch version that are not in the English version!

However could that have happened I wonder….

Is that the screech of wheels from Scobie being thrown under the bus?

That's what surprised me too (I'm past that extract of the book). OS clearly says there is no superinjunction in place. Perhaps the reason why this isn't front pages is because OS is very clear these were "rumours" which PW categorically denied and that he was very angry they were circulated. Questions remain about what The Sun really had and if they can ever be trusted.

I think it might be!

No idea 🤷‍♀️ at all as to how this could have happened
🧦 puppet?

That's really funny.

Hunting in Summer??
surely Harry knows that’s impossible (Balmoral)

Deer stalking happens in summer.

The more I think about it, the more I am
convimced that this was a deliberate publicity stunt to drum up sales and interest in Omid.

I’m glad that it’s not being called a translation error any more.

I’m glad that it’s not being called a translation error any more.

Yes, it's a 'version error'.

That poor translator, though. I bet they are being pursued by the tabloids to tell 'their side of the story'.

Archie hardly would be doing that - Even toddlers can sit on a pony for a drag hunt.