Duchy of Lancaster Theft

[Roussette]

Just when I thought I could not be more taken aback at some of the practices undertaken by our Monarchy, and the sheer greed.

I then read this article. Bottom line.... anyone who dies intestate in Lancashire, and parts of Merseyside, Grtr Manchester, Cheshire and Cumbria... their assets are scooped up by the Duchy of Lancaster who has collected more than £60M over the last 10 years. Not charity as is the norm.. but into the pocket of our King You need to read the article to see what he actually does with it and how it benefits his personal income.

The article explains it well and will answer any questions and queries about it.

Someone yesterday accused me of 'despising' the RF. I disagreed but I am beginning to wonder if that poster was right. Especially when I read something like this.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/23/revealed-king-charles-secretly-profiting-from-the-assets-of-dead-citizens?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

I do apologise for not seeing your thread. Similar on here for some people!

The quote is from the Guardian article on The Duchy of Lancaster, this article has been shared by the OP:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/23/revealed-king-charles-secretly-profiting-from-the-assets-of-dead-citizens

Feck. How did I not know this. I thought this money went into the public money box

A lot of people don't. People are busy with their own lives and wouldn't imagine such a wealthy family would be doing this, lining up for the small estates left by the public. Despite what some posters say here in their bizarre defence of this, its not common knowledge, its not something many people talk about, and it isn't anyones fault for not knowing.

It is so strange that there is a discussion on how thick we all are for not knowing, when clearly the discussion should be on the ethics of doing this and if this should be changed.

I wonder... is this in any calculations of what the royal family get form the public? the sovereign grant, the undisclosed security costs, the millions in peoples estates... I mean, its quite the grab isn't it. Greedy fuckers.

The snippet that pissed me off the most is that people are told this money goes to good causes. That's the lie that stands out for me.

@Roussette I'm glad someone else gives a hoot!

The quote is from the Guardian article on The Duchy of Lancaster, this article has been shared by the OP:

i know, and I was pointing out that’s is only the Duchy of Lancaster that has been opaque on this issue. There’s a lot of general criticism going on on this thread, I think it’s useful to be specific.

What occurs to me is.... the chances are, those that die intestate with no known blood relatives... might well have small estates. There will be a lot of small estates making up the £60M taken by the Duchy of Lancaster. The RF heir hunters must be very busy tracking this all down to top up the Duchy

And we haven't even touched on Duchy of Cornwall yet!

Absolutely this. Bollocks to those bloodsucking parasites getting any of it.

There is a petition started about this... here is a link

https://act.38degrees.org.uk/act/king-charles-assets-petition

Signed.

their assets are scooped up by the Duchy of Lancaster who has collected more than £60M over the last 10 years. So £6M a year. Where should that go?

@BrassicaBabe

There is an entire very busy industry dedicated to keeping facts about the Windsors buried and as opaque as possible . Daily propaganda too.

Nothing to do with the so called royals is open and transparent. Like many people you probably thought crown =state .
It often does - except when it doesn’t ( usually when the issue involves filling the Windsors pockets )

And it really isn’t a Republican issue .
It is a disgraceful situation- and Bon Vacantia happening for 900 years is reason alone to have a root and branch reform -not to bloody leave it as the feudal rip off that it is!

It’s the corruption and financial rip off that I object most to . I’d be quite happy with Charles if he was on a salary and had one home . Charles wouldn’t be though .

What is the point in debating this with you... not being funny derxa but Charles can do no wrong in your eyes so there's not a lot of point getting in to a to and fro.

Sometimes the principle really matters. In this particular instance, I really think so. And I'm not alone.

Thanks for the petition - I’ve signed

Anyone reading and fuming can make a difference by signing too

I don't know if these kinds of petitions have any effect but signed and shared.

So £6M a year. Where should that go?

No indication is that’s a net or gross figure either, by the way, derxa

This isn’t even the first time it’s been discussed on this board, so I’m amused by the pearl clutching going. From a previous post I made on this topic:

During 2019 the Duchy of Cornwall received bona vacantia of £868,000. From that it then made payments, returns and other associated costs amounting to £64,000. Surplus receipts of £132,000 were paid over to The Duke of Cornwall’s Benevolent Fund. The remainder was held in reserve unless claims were received from creditors (so, for example, the son that is being complained about here would be a creditor that came forward to claim the amount due to him).

I’m also amused by the complaints about how the son missed out on having his father’s sentimental possessions. Nine month’s after his father died, what did he imagine would have happened to an empty house and its possessions if just left to moulder?

I understand that you don't want to have a debate. My point of view will shock people on here. Using that money to renovate and improve properties makes complete sense to me. Especially the renovation of agricultural buildings. That means that tenant farmers lives and their animals are made a lot more easy.
Giving it to the NHS is just chucking it into a black hole. I would approve of a hardship fund for people in the Duchy of Lancaster

I would approve of a hardship fund for people in Lancashire.

Well yes. We agree. It's not that I don't want debate, but we're poles apart on our views of the RF and I cannot understand that occasionally, just occasionally, you can't find fault.

Doing up houses, to increase rent, to pocket is not a hardship fund is it...
Nor are pheasant shoots
Nor are spending money on commercial properties.
All to line pockets.

So glad we “pearl clutchers” are keeping you continually amused Serenster.

You always seem very well informed about these matters. Where are you getting the information from please? What are your sources?

Why can't people debate a subject without resorting to insults?

You always seem very well informed about these matters. Where are you getting the information from please? What are your sources?

For my post that you quoted? The figures come from the independently audited annual accounts of the Duchy of Cornwall, published online for all to read. I looked them up, and read them, as anyone posting here is likewise free to do. (I even gave page and paragraph references upthread to the most recent set of accounts for the Ducjt of Cornwall where this is set out)

You forgot to mention farms. The improvements are just that- improvements that affect real people's lives. Also the improvements are made by local tradespeople who need to earn a living.

Well, bollox! I wish those Heir Hunters (bbc) more power to their elbows!!

I don't care if the amounts each year are £100 or £10 million. It should go back into the community, not to someone already taking tens of millions from the public every year.

Homeless charities? Health charities? Animal charities? Anywhere but to those over-privileged parasites.