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George's exams

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everetting · 02/10/2023 14:52

Kate is not going with william to Singapore as George has important exams. What exams would a 10 year old be sitting in November?
I know nothing about private school systems so hoping someone here does.

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wordler · 09/10/2023 20:33

FluffyCatBonzo · 09/10/2023 19:57

@wordler state schools don't provide this as part of their PE curriculum . As you say though family connections are common hence why I guess Zara ended up with horses.

I think a lot of sports fall outside what is offered at state school level though. And even less now than when I was at school because of health and safety concerns - a lot of schools don’t offer javelin anymore.

Most fighting or ‘weapon’ sports are not offered through most school curriculum - alongside anything needing big expensive individual equipment or conditions.

Horses, boats, racing bikes, nearly all the winter sports, etc.

I’d hope that the UK sporting bodies attached to all those activities would realize their potential competitor pool would be better if they develop programs to reach and support across the class/wealth divides but I’m not sure how well that happens.

Iwasafool · 09/10/2023 20:46

Iwantcakeeveryday · 09/10/2023 12:34

Yup same. The Queen did send her own car to get Harry from the airport didn't she? She also still did birthday wishes and stuff whereas since her death there are none. I think she tried to still be a family even if he wasn't in the firm, but Charles and William are not like her are they.

That seems to be true but then Harry didn't badmouth her the way he did his father and brother not to mention their wives. I think that is relevant.

Iwasafool · 09/10/2023 20:56

FluffyCatBonzo · 09/10/2023 15:36

Shooting? Working class? 😂😂

Yes shooting, I used to know a working class mum at my kids school who was good as some sort of competitive shooting, can't remember what but it wasn't pistols, there are various disciplines in shooting I believe. Not sure why someone working class can't get into shooting. The rifle club down the road from where I live seems to have all sorts of members.

My husband is a working class retired police officer and he was a firearms officer, some of his colleagues did it as a hobby as well.

state schools don't provide this as part of their PE curriculum . As you say though family connections are common hence why I guess Zara ended up with horses. Funnily enough my kids went to two state schools that did shooting as part of Combined Cadet Force. Shock horror, working class kids with access to guns.

FluffyCatBonzo · 09/10/2023 21:08

@Iwasafool and that was my point. Family influence is huge in these decisions but again the regular PE curriculum in a normal state school does not include things like shooting. They struggle enough as it is to get "normal" PE time within the curriculum. You seem to think I am belittling " working class" which is a phrase I wouldn't normally use - far from it. I am talking about opportunities.

Angrycat2768 · 09/10/2023 22:18

Iwasafool · 09/10/2023 20:56

Yes shooting, I used to know a working class mum at my kids school who was good as some sort of competitive shooting, can't remember what but it wasn't pistols, there are various disciplines in shooting I believe. Not sure why someone working class can't get into shooting. The rifle club down the road from where I live seems to have all sorts of members.

My husband is a working class retired police officer and he was a firearms officer, some of his colleagues did it as a hobby as well.

state schools don't provide this as part of their PE curriculum . As you say though family connections are common hence why I guess Zara ended up with horses. Funnily enough my kids went to two state schools that did shooting as part of Combined Cadet Force. Shock horror, working class kids with access to guns.

My kids are always doing shooting with cubs/ scouts. I don't love that they do it, but it's part of their activities. Cubs is pretty cheap as an activity.

Iwasafool · 09/10/2023 23:32

FluffyCatBonzo · 09/10/2023 21:08

@Iwasafool and that was my point. Family influence is huge in these decisions but again the regular PE curriculum in a normal state school does not include things like shooting. They struggle enough as it is to get "normal" PE time within the curriculum. You seem to think I am belittling " working class" which is a phrase I wouldn't normally use - far from it. I am talking about opportunities.

Well CCF gave my kids many opportunities shooting just being one and I assume it happens in other state schools and as Angrycat points out cubs and scouts can also offer those opportunities.

I know you aren't prepared to accept that shooting is something open to working class people but it actually is.

FluffyCatBonzo · 10/10/2023 00:23

@Iwasafool no I am not saying that shooting is not something open to working class people. Please don't put words in my mouth. What I have said is that it is not accessible through the normal state PE curriculum whereas many private schools offer it and have shooting facilities.

Howsimplywonderful · 10/10/2023 08:24

I didn’t go to a private school, but we did Fencing. So while I can’t shoot, I’m a handy person to have in a sword fight 🤣🤣

Our nuns were really great in hindsight.

Iwasafool · 10/10/2023 08:34

FluffyCatBonzo · 10/10/2023 00:23

@Iwasafool no I am not saying that shooting is not something open to working class people. Please don't put words in my mouth. What I have said is that it is not accessible through the normal state PE curriculum whereas many private schools offer it and have shooting facilities.

No, let's be honest. In your first post on this you said

Shooting? Working class? 😂😂

Now are you going to pretend that was shorthand for working class people can do shooting but it isn't accessible through the normal state PE curriculum?

You reacted to something I said, I wasn't the only person who pointed out that working class people can certainly do shooting so your comment was wrong but you can't accept that but you really need to leave it. It is pointless , we can see what you said.

FluffyCatBonzo · 10/10/2023 08:43

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royalwatchewr · 10/10/2023 09:11

Yikes - this thread has gone way off course since I last looked!

Good luck to George and all the other kids preparing for their pre-sits or 11plus!

Daisyislazy · 10/10/2023 11:06

Howsimplywonderful · 10/10/2023 08:24

I didn’t go to a private school, but we did Fencing. So while I can’t shoot, I’m a handy person to have in a sword fight 🤣🤣

Our nuns were really great in hindsight.

A really useful skill 🤣

Howsimplywonderful · 10/10/2023 11:14

@Daisyislazy

I see Henry Cavill has left the Witcher so perhaps I can persuade Netflix to go in a different direction 🤣🤣

Iwantcakeeveryday · 10/10/2023 12:17

Iwasafool · 09/10/2023 20:46

That seems to be true but then Harry didn't badmouth her the way he did his father and brother not to mention their wives. I think that is relevant.

I don't think its relevant to the need for security though.

I find it interesting that Harry was deemed at risk and requiring of security while working as a senior royal, and that the security threats miraculously disappeared when he left. Its amazingly convenient.

AuroraCake · 10/10/2023 12:26

royalwatchewr · 10/10/2023 09:11

Yikes - this thread has gone way off course since I last looked!

Good luck to George and all the other kids preparing for their pre-sits or 11plus!

11 plus long over.

Daisyislazy · 10/10/2023 12:29

I haven't really taken much notice of the situation. Is is that they have deemed he is no longer at risk or is it no one want's to pay for it?

Mylovelygreendress · 10/10/2023 12:33

Iwantcakeeveryday · 10/10/2023 12:17

I don't think its relevant to the need for security though.

I find it interesting that Harry was deemed at risk and requiring of security while working as a senior royal, and that the security threats miraculously disappeared when he left. Its amazingly convenient.

Do you think the Met should provide 24/7 security for Harry and family while they live in the US earning ( apparently) millions ?

Angrycat2768 · 10/10/2023 12:38

Mylovelygreendress · 10/10/2023 12:33

Do you think the Met should provide 24/7 security for Harry and family while they live in the US earning ( apparently) millions ?

He pays for his armed security in the US. Didn't he want armed security for his family while he was in the UK and wanted to pay for it? I do agree he shouldn't have moaned about it, and I don't believe all the Royals should get it, but he didn't want the Met to provide him with security in the US.

royalwatchewr · 10/10/2023 12:39

AuroraCake · 10/10/2023 12:26

11 plus long over.

Many schools have 11 plus stage 2 exams in November.

Mylovelygreendress · 10/10/2023 12:50

Angrycat2768 · 10/10/2023 12:38

He pays for his armed security in the US. Didn't he want armed security for his family while he was in the UK and wanted to pay for it? I do agree he shouldn't have moaned about it, and I don't believe all the Royals should get it, but he didn't want the Met to provide him with security in the US.

I could be wrong but I am pretty sure he DID want that ! He said himself that he never thought he would have his security removed . Part of his argument for ongoing taxpayer provided security is that he should be treated as an IPP.
His offer to pay for armed security in the U.K. was a non starter as no one can pay for that .

wordler · 10/10/2023 12:54

While the late Queen was alive I think that Harry was likely aging out of 24/7 security just like Beatrice and Eugenie did as they dropped down the line of succession.

So he would have had security on official engagements but not the outside of that line Anne and Edward&Sophie.

On Charles’ accession it might have changed back again as the risk to Harry becomes partly about the risk to destabilizing the head of state as one of two sons vs one of eight grandchildren.

Im sure that is part of the current risk assessment when he is in the UK

Iwantcakeeveryday · 10/10/2023 13:24

Mylovelygreendress · 10/10/2023 12:33

Do you think the Met should provide 24/7 security for Harry and family while they live in the US earning ( apparently) millions ?

No, not in the US- although we provide security for former PM's so you could make an argument for it.

I think it should have been phased out and he should have been given proper notice of it as it was dangerous to immediately remove it. I think he should have it in the UK. Former protection officers have spoken about the risk to them and so I don't think his security risk can be compared to people like Beatrice and Eugenie. It's not related to where you are in the line of succession, but what the risk to you is. We also have to consider that private security can't replace it because of gun laws and the inability to have access to the same intelligence.

I think that if someones public role has made them a target, and it has for Harry since he was born, that security needs to be paid for by the public for as long as the threat exists. Those who want a monarchy and think the role important, who are happy to pay for dresses and palaces, should be happy to pay for any risk the public also poses to them. If anything happened to Harry or any of his family, the monarchy would not survive it and our global image would be seriously harmed by it.

Medlady · 10/10/2023 13:32

If there is a chance that George will 'do a Harry', all the more reason for him to take his exams seriously and for his parents to do so also.

Mylovelygreendress · 10/10/2023 13:33

Iwantcakeeveryday · 10/10/2023 13:24

No, not in the US- although we provide security for former PM's so you could make an argument for it.

I think it should have been phased out and he should have been given proper notice of it as it was dangerous to immediately remove it. I think he should have it in the UK. Former protection officers have spoken about the risk to them and so I don't think his security risk can be compared to people like Beatrice and Eugenie. It's not related to where you are in the line of succession, but what the risk to you is. We also have to consider that private security can't replace it because of gun laws and the inability to have access to the same intelligence.

I think that if someones public role has made them a target, and it has for Harry since he was born, that security needs to be paid for by the public for as long as the threat exists. Those who want a monarchy and think the role important, who are happy to pay for dresses and palaces, should be happy to pay for any risk the public also poses to them. If anything happened to Harry or any of his family, the monarchy would not survive it and our global image would be seriously harmed by it.

So you agree he was wrong to assume he would keep his taxpayer security in the US ? If i remember correctly he said in Spare that he never thought his security would be removed .
I get the impression that some posters think the Met should continue to provide security for Harry and family which is ridiculous.

royalwatchewr · 10/10/2023 13:47

I was so surprised when they went to Canada and declared themselves “Internationally protected people” on their website, it sounded so pompous.

Arguing that Harry deserves security (or whatever else) for the rest of his life because he didn't ask to be born a royal is no different to me demanding that my DPs pay for my Ocado orders because they chose to have me.

Parents are responsible for caring for and educating their children until they reach adulthood. After that, we are responsible for our own decisions.

Kate and William are to be commended for taking George's education seriously. Hopefully, he will be well-informed, well-rounded and multi-lingual, like his great-grandmother, and a great asset to this country in the future.