George's exams

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Kate is not going with william to Singapore as George has important exams. What exams would a 10 year old be sitting in November?
I know nothing about private school systems so hoping someone here does.

W&K don't need a popularity boost. They're already very popular despite the snark on here. The idea that they are using their children to court popularity is actually horrible.

I think otherwise but at least we are talking about the subject matter and not all four nations with a view that no one knows they exist and William will be King of them.

Totally agree with this. Archie and Lili were barely seen in the Netflix doc (cue posters going on about seeing him in the bath...less than you'd see of a child on the beach).
I have no idea what they really look like as all we've seen in total is the backs of heads, distance shots etc. And one Christmas card (again the back of Archie's head)
However I know exactly what W&Ks kids look like, the clothes they wear, their public face, I feel it's total overload and when there is some shoring up of some message, out come the children. Women's World Cup springs to mind, not an isolated incident

Oh, wow you're right! George and Charlotte attend a small, carefully chosen number of pubic or state ocasions - to gradually introduce them to their inevitable future roles in the public eye. Whereas Harry and Meghan's children are locked away and... only unveiled in exchange for cold, hard cash!

SO much more sensible.

Greenparrots has laid on the snarky tone here, but I agree with the substance of the post. There is a difference between William and Kate gradually and gently preparing their children for a life of Royal duties (not inevitable but likely) by bringing them into public life in small, manageable ways, and Harry and Meghan including their children in a documentary as part of a commercial deal with a major streaming service. I don't think Harry and Meghan were exploitative necessarily but the potential is definitely there. I don't feel that the public appearances of the Wales' children is linked to the perceived need for popularity- it seems to be quite a natural part of getting ready for their future roles. I think William and Kate are handling it all quite well for the most part.

Re a post on the last page which suggests that G,C and L have been wheeled out 900 times-I think that's an unfair exaggeration.

William and Kate are popular in the polls, but they get little media or public attention without the children there.
Nearly every article about them without their children talks about Harry and meghan as well to get public attention. Even here you don't get threads about william and Kate with lots of comments without a lot of comments being about Harry and meghan.
Kate and William are popular, but people don't seem that interested in them.

I thought it was agreed that speculation about H and M’s marriage was strictly taboo on here . Can we not extend the same courtesy to W and K and not repeat these ridiculous rumours ?

Agree. Every single article or comment about them is in comparison to Harry and Meghan. Woukd anyone take any interest in them without having to add on 'not like Harry and Meghan'? If Harry and Meghan went away, the press would get bored and start sniffing around for more Royal content. They know that, the press know that. The press works to keep the Harry and Meghan circus going.

I can only speak for myself, but I do find Harry and Meghan quite interesting on a number of levels. Not really as individuals, but in terms of what they seem to be trying to achieve - a Royal life in a decidedly non- Royal country. This is having some interesting constitutional, political, familial and personal (seemingly) ramifications. But they are getting less interesting as time goes on, which is possibly why the media are now scraping the bottom of the barrel for stories.

I guess William and Kate will always be around, won't they, so perhaps the fascination is less. Whereas Harry and Meghan are (and can be, as non working/non senior Royals) relatively unpredictable. But they (Harry and Meghan) are becoming less interesting by the day.

I don’t find Harry and Meghan as interesting as the circus around them for example the most interesting thing about them being in NY was the funny memes about Queen of Hertz and the ‘car chase’ 🤣 with Omid ranting how the RF never checked they were okay

They also attract a level of scrutiny so a FOI request shows their team trying to get kids to sign NDA’s and trying to puff up a read aloud. Which is interesting.

A post also got me wondering why if they don’t use their own kids, why they are happy to use other kids (often very vulnerable ones) to flog their books and boost their image

its very interesting as they’ve muddied the waters, acting as philanthropists but as they’ve not got serious wealth behind them trying to make money from those endeavours.

Agree with your posts @secretpath

The bottom line is... some of the RF are really not that interesting. Take Sophie and Edward for instance... beavering away doing royal duties, what do we know about them? Nowt. No reporting on them and their royal attendances, they are working Royals but the toxic media know the british public just are not interested in them.
It has to be the multi million pound M&H hate industry.

We thought Diana would always be around and would be Queen. Media articles about her, and there were many, did not talk about others to get public interest.
William and Kate are a strange mixture of popular in polls, but with little public interest. That is why the children are rolled out.

I don't think they have any political or constitutional effect. It is an entirely familial dispute and a private tragedy. The ' Meghan and Harry trying to cause the downfall of the Monarchy' business is, imo an excuse the press use to justify their harassment. Harry is not heir to the Throne. It doesn't matter if he still uses his title or he is technically counsellor of State. The King has no power, so if William and Charles are unavailable and he stands in nothing will happen at all. The only reason they are constantly in the press is because it benefits the RF to have the heat on them, and the press, and all the many Roysl biographers, commentators body language ' experts, Piers Morgan, Dan Wooten etc Al can make money out ofcthem by hand wringing about how worried they are about the downfall of the Monarchy because the 6th in line to the Throne has written a book.

They have very much the same levels of exposure (perhaps slightly less under 8) that William and Harry had (you can look back easily as its all online)

So newborn (hospital steps/formals/christening).

Infancy: some pix if they are taken on overseas royal tour, Christmas card shots
(for William and Harry add staged photocalls)

Childhood: Christmas card, first day at each school attended (for William and Harry, add photocalls on holiday/otherwise private days out) extending to include Sandringham church attendance and later still balconies and other royal events where whole family turn up (obvs funeral/coronation added to the number of events, so has skewed perception a bit), some set piece pix (eg George only in 4 generation monarch/heir stuff, covid clapping) plus occasional charity events.

I think they have plenty of time to be in private, as the occasion are few and also they wear the "uniform" of slightly dated formal children's wear which may help separate it out a bit

Rumours circulate about marriages because everyone knows the Royal family will lie about the truth. The Royal family were still spinning a story of a loving marriage when Diana and Charles were living separate lives. It's a shame they do that as it means the public do not trust what they are told and allows rumours to take hold.

Point of detail - public interest has a specific meaning, and it is very much in the public interest to know about the official activities, health and what can be gleaned of the character of those who are in the direct line of succession.

It's not a synonym for what the public is interested in at any given time.

I think the royal family, as a deliberate strategy, work to those longer timescales, knowing that interest/attention/approbation ebb and flow over the decades and they don't need to chase it.

The only time I think they've used a DC to draw fire is when Charlotte was wheeled out in the aftermath of William's dereliction of his duties as President of the FA.

The children have been wheeled out to sporting events. There was a pr video of william and Kate playing with the children.
They know they need some level of interest from the public. Especially as support for the monarchy has declined.

Forgot about sport - possible because they do a lot less of that than Diana and Charles did

So perhaps, if they've had vid of DC playing too (I don't remember that one at all, I'm afraid) then they're much closer to the Diana and Charles model than I thought (with the remaining major reduction being no photocalls on holiday or on days out)

William and Kate are a strange mixture of popular in polls, but with little public interest. That is why the children are rolled out.

I’d be interested to see what on earth this opinion is based on, because it is so easily refuted. The level of engagement William and Kate get for their appearances is huge.

One simple example is the BBC Eurovision instagram accounts. Earlier this years tens and tens of videos were posted to it. The event has an audience of many many millions, with loads of social media engagement. Only three of the BBC videos have been viewed more than 1 million times, though. The top three were:

Mel Giedroyc churning (🤣) 1.6m views
The King and Queen’s cameo with Subwolfer - 1.7m views
Kate playing the piano - 10.4m views.

And more. The rather cringey Norfolk beach youtube footage that one poster likened to a Boden ad! K&W and the three kids on the beach, climbing trees, toasting marshmallows and W&K all romantic in the sand dues

Just my opinion, but I feel we see lots of the children. Up to them. I suppose they would be hounded if they didn't do this.

@SSerenster then why does every discussion or article about william and Kate either have the children involved, or talk about Harry and meghan?
If people were really interested in william and Kate this would not be necessary.
You didn't get every article about the Queen talking about her sisters partying and affairs. People were interested in the Queen.

The children are not rolled out imo. Whether you like it or not, there is public interest in them and W & K allow this in a controlled manner.

Just because the public are interested in the children does not mean that interest should be satisfied.

love the whatabouty on this thread. what have H&M and (their very rare) views of their children got to do with George and his parents?
seems like as soon as any thing slightly negative is posted about the wales' the oh but H&M are worse post start.
one family is paid by the people, one isn't so no comparison.

I can’t see the big deal tbh. It’s not like we are seeing weekly pictures of the children. Unless you just want to use it as an excuse to criticise W & K. 🤷🏻‍♀️