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Meghan, Duchess of Sussex spotted out and about

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queentim · 16/08/2023 16:29

Recently spotted at a TSwift (allegedly), Barbie movie for her birthday, a restaurant, and then hanging out with friends in an Instagram selfie. She looks phenomenal in this photo!

Glad to see she's enjoying her life back home with her family.

Meghan summer selfie

A Rare New Selfie of Meghan Markle Shows Her Casual Late Summer Style

Meghan's friends offered the little peek into their private life together.

https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a44820862/meghan-markle-selfie-casual-late-summer-style/

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MissElinorDashwood · 28/09/2023 09:46

queenofarles · 28/09/2023 09:43

I don’t think it would be considered successful PRing if the exact emails were sent by Laura’s Bush team to promote her children’s books?
I doubt it’s standard practice .

We’ll never know…The Sun (or whichever tabloid it was) didn’t go back years requesting FOI for anyone else.

MissElinorDashwood · 28/09/2023 09:49

StormzyinaTCup · 28/09/2023 09:42

Did they actually follow through on what they promised, reading nooks and a washing machine do we know?

Rather conveniently we only have the couples word to go on as everyone else involved has been gagged for eternity!!

Ask The Sun to find out for us.

StormzyinaTCup · 28/09/2023 09:51

MissElinorDashwood · 28/09/2023 09:49

Ask The Sun to find out for us.

I think they are in enough hot water at the moment 😁

MissElinorDashwood · 28/09/2023 09:53

Serenster · 28/09/2023 09:36

No issue with a disadvantaged school being used as a prop for self promotion here, then?

I would be p*ed off if the school and the children didn’t benefit from the arrangement.

Makes sense to use a school setting as it’s a children’s book.

TallerSally · 28/09/2023 09:54

Folks, who. the. hell. cares?

This is yet another example of the disheartening tendency of some to analyse everything M and H do in forensic detail (she held her hand like this! Her PR team asked for cushions, asparagus and a Bentley (oh sorry that was King Charles), bla bla bla!), desperate seeking out anything that can be construed as a misstep, attempting to amplify it into a “PR disaster“, and adding it to the tally of the Crimes of Meghan and Harry Vol.23’566, which demonstrate that, really, they are awful people.

Meghan haters love this stuff, other folks who have a bit more humanity don’t expect M&H to be Perfect Superhuman Geniuses who get everything right 100% of the time, and therefore aren’t remotely interested in ridiculous cushion gates and microphone gates or anything other similar made-up gates. Despite what the ridiculously desperate British tabloids and Murdoch press would have M&H hating echo chamber inhabitants believe.

Meghan’s J Crew cardi broke the internet, no-one GAF about microphone gate or whatever. (not implying that that’s all there should be about M, but pointing out how irrelevant these fictitious “gates” are even to M&H watchers)

MissElinorDashwood · 28/09/2023 09:57

Folks, who. the. hell. cares?

Agree.
Much ado about nothing.

queenofarles · 28/09/2023 09:59

We’ll never know…The Sun (or whichever tabloid it was) didn’t go back years requesting FOI for anyone else. didn’t Madonna send out a list of demands asking the Malawian government to give her a state welcome ?
it was big news back then.

whywouldyousaythat · 28/09/2023 10:07

Perhaps it was also good background PR which finally got Invictus games in the headlines once Meghan arrived, the headlines became mainly about her, her clothes, doing her own hair and make up and as an aside Invictus Games got some publicity, but it seemed to be only when she was in the frame.

Media interest only hyped up once she arrived, up until then we had to go looking for anything about the games, there was very little online interest at all. Even now, I could probably recount the outfits Meghan wore, however I could not tell you the name of a participant or team who had success there. 😒

MissElinorDashwood · 28/09/2023 10:10

This is my takeaway that no one seems to have picked up on.

The Tabloids had first access to Prince Harry, Meghan and Archie until they drove them out.

Now, out of desperation for exclusives (clicks & revenue plus character assassination attempts due to upcoming court cases) they have to go through people’s rubbish and harass the US government with FOI requests for stories.

It’s amusing.

Morestrangerthings1 · 28/09/2023 10:13

@StartupRepair @MissElinorDashwood No there was no request for the school to purchase any cushions. Actually, reading the email from ‘penguin random house’ to someone at ‘Archewell’ with the ‘school rep’ cc’d in: The publishing house is asking for tent vendor recommendations and they are looking into cushions rugs (to furnish the tent Meghan read to the kids in)etc.. so no, school not asked to supply nice new cushions.

Its available to read in the Daily mail’s article if you can stand to, but I couldn’t copy and paste the actual email (although the DMs somewhat misleading summations were able to be copied (imagine that!). The names of everyone in the email/the people I mentioned, are on the email obviously too.

I’m Never going to DM site again. It jumps around on my screen, and I kept getting taken to different stories.

it’s taken so long some other poster has probably sorted out and posted what actually was not requested meanwhile

MissElinorDashwood · 28/09/2023 10:13

whywouldyousaythat · 28/09/2023 10:07

Perhaps it was also good background PR which finally got Invictus games in the headlines once Meghan arrived, the headlines became mainly about her, her clothes, doing her own hair and make up and as an aside Invictus Games got some publicity, but it seemed to be only when she was in the frame.

Media interest only hyped up once she arrived, up until then we had to go looking for anything about the games, there was very little online interest at all. Even now, I could probably recount the outfits Meghan wore, however I could not tell you the name of a participant or team who had success there. 😒

Edited

I can tell you for a fact, that’s only the case if you rely on UK media.

The IG received global attention and reporting from day one.

They had over 800 international journalists at the event. If you followed it carefully you will have seen all the positive reporting throughout.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 28/09/2023 10:15

MissElinorDashwood · 28/09/2023 10:10

This is my takeaway that no one seems to have picked up on.

The Tabloids had first access to Prince Harry, Meghan and Archie until they drove them out.

Now, out of desperation for exclusives (clicks & revenue plus character assassination attempts due to upcoming court cases) they have to go through people’s rubbish and harass the US government with FOI requests for stories.

It’s amusing.

sadly for the tabloids they can't do the same to dig up dirt on the royals because they are exempt from FOI.

skullbabe · 28/09/2023 10:16

Ah - full emails on the Daily Mail. Which I try to avoid. Reading through the correspondence - all sounds pretty standard PR work to me. Negotiating the appearance, times of arrival, what to put in the release - coming up with a happy medium, discussing what the footage would be used for (documentary), discussing the appearance release - giving the option of not filming the children at all - asking the press secretary to ensure that the release is read over by lawyers to make sure they were happy with it and even highlighting the specific bit that they should look over before signing. The publishing house PR was interested in the optics - so organising the tent, the cushions, the carpet and the decor - so again something I would absolutely expect someone in PR to be looking at. So all in all standard - I’m quite impressed with Toya Holness’ work here. I’m especially impressed with her highlighting the bit to the press team, which of course Meghan is being castigated for, for a read over by the school district legal team before anyone signed it.

I noticed though, that all the British publications which were specifically named as being barred from another event which presumably extended to this one have all written stories about this story which really is “PR lady did her job efficiently” vs the “Meghan asked 5 year olds to not say mean things about her and buy her fancy cushions” which they all have written . 🤷🏽‍♀️

MissElinorDashwood · 28/09/2023 10:18

Thank you for @Morestrangerthings1 for clarifying. I thought that was odd. Don’t worry, I take everything with a pinch of salt until I can check for myself (from reliable sources).

I won’t be clicking on any DF article. I have my own long standing principles when it comes to the tabloids.

MissElinorDashwood · 28/09/2023 10:25

skullbabe · 28/09/2023 10:16

Ah - full emails on the Daily Mail. Which I try to avoid. Reading through the correspondence - all sounds pretty standard PR work to me. Negotiating the appearance, times of arrival, what to put in the release - coming up with a happy medium, discussing what the footage would be used for (documentary), discussing the appearance release - giving the option of not filming the children at all - asking the press secretary to ensure that the release is read over by lawyers to make sure they were happy with it and even highlighting the specific bit that they should look over before signing. The publishing house PR was interested in the optics - so organising the tent, the cushions, the carpet and the decor - so again something I would absolutely expect someone in PR to be looking at. So all in all standard - I’m quite impressed with Toya Holness’ work here. I’m especially impressed with her highlighting the bit to the press team, which of course Meghan is being castigated for, for a read over by the school district legal team before anyone signed it.

I noticed though, that all the British publications which were specifically named as being barred from another event which presumably extended to this one have all written stories about this story which really is “PR lady did her job efficiently” vs the “Meghan asked 5 year olds to not say mean things about her and buy her fancy cushions” which they all have written . 🤷🏽‍♀️

Thank you. Nice to know my impressions of this story were correct. A job well done by all involved. Sounds professional and well thought out. I’m especially glad that the children benefited also. All parties worked well together.

Morestrangerthings1 · 28/09/2023 10:27

Serenster · 28/09/2023 09:36

No issue with a disadvantaged school being used as a prop for self promotion here, then?

Well I’d have a problem if that pr visit was all they did. But H&M do a lot of good stuff. most recently Harry and the Invictus Games, WellChild Awards, polo games (have a problem with actual polo though because of the horses - I always think players should be carried around on the field by humans. It’d look ridiculous but more real, and less cruel, and I’d like to see it lol) etc.

Meghan’s got her Period Poverty charity and another Girls charity as well as other stuff. So they get a pass from me on this.

Charles promotes himself. Lets it be known he donated 10 fridges after he visited a food bank. And The Royals get paid a lot for their charitable endeavours.

in the world of charity this happens all the time. Eg People buy a ticket to a gala dinner and it pays for part of the gala and the rest goes to charity, and the sponsorships are advertised on the menus and on the walls etc., and mentioned in press releases and often in the social
pages.

MissElinorDashwood · 28/09/2023 10:28

I noticed though, that all the British publications which were specifically named as being barred from another event which presumably extended to this one.

🤭

whywouldyousaythat · 28/09/2023 10:42

I don't rely on UK media, I am not in the UK. I am currently based in Switzerland, which has a huge international population, we are exposed to a lot of international media and news..

I can tell you there was little to nothing about Invictus games, in either the French, German, Italian or English language media we see here. If you searched for it, you could find it, but otherwise it was pretty much zilch.

Because I follow the RF forum on Mumsnet, I knew about it happening. It didn't even make it to the Mumsnet sports forum, to be fair. So the only interest from the huge Mumsnet community was amongst this small community of those of us who follow the Royal Family.

Hence, why I wonder if the PR only kicked in when Meghan turned up at the event?

boxedandribboned · 28/09/2023 10:43

It just feels like they can't do anything 'good' without grandstanding

Mylovelygreendress · 28/09/2023 11:00

“Charles promotes himself. Lets it be known he donated 10 fridges after he visited a food bank. “

Small correction - his personal donation bought “ hundreds of fridges “.

Mylovelygreendress · 28/09/2023 11:02

Actually I have just checked and it was 800.

boxedandribboned · 28/09/2023 11:13

“Charles promotes himself. Lets it be known he donated 10 fridges after he visited a food bank. “

Ah - is that what they call whataboutery?

Yes, no doubt that Charles likes to promote himself. No doubt we'd all be chortling about it if similar emails were published about him. So what?

Howsimplywonderful · 28/09/2023 11:16

It’s more propaganda than PR

MissElinorDashwood · 28/09/2023 11:22

Nope.
It’s PR.

boxedandribboned · 28/09/2023 11:26

I'm starting to understand what other posters meant yesterday when they said Meghan supporters are blind to her faults. It's a bit blinkered to say that gagging underprivileged children and using them to promote a book (in exchange for a washing machine and a few veggies) is 'just PR'.

It sounds pretty cynical to me. I'd say the same no matter who was doing it. It's not very nice to use poor people to make you look good and to promote sales of a product, surely?

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