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Meghan, Duchess of Sussex spotted out and about

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queentim · 16/08/2023 16:29

Recently spotted at a TSwift (allegedly), Barbie movie for her birthday, a restaurant, and then hanging out with friends in an Instagram selfie. She looks phenomenal in this photo!

Glad to see she's enjoying her life back home with her family.

Meghan summer selfie

A Rare New Selfie of Meghan Markle Shows Her Casual Late Summer Style

Meghan's friends offered the little peek into their private life together.

https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a44820862/meghan-markle-selfie-casual-late-summer-style/

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Iwantcakeeveryday · 27/09/2023 10:55

This unshakeable belief that every single thing they do/say/wear is wonderful.

Except nobody has said that. Why do we have to criticise anyone? Why do we need to pick apart peoples little flaws? they're not working for us anymore.

You could make that same statement int he other direction, there are far more posters here who have an unshakeable belief everything they do is wrong and about the royal family, no matter what.

derxa · 27/09/2023 10:57

Roussette · 27/09/2023 10:46

I think Sarah Ferguson has totally recovered from it! She is and has been welcomed back into the RF fold. Summer hols up at Balmoral etc. She lives on a Royal estate of 110 acres, despite being divorced from her husband for nearly 30 years. (how weird is that? We just need to take a step back and think about it. She is not married to a member of the RF but has lived on a massive Royal Estate for 15 years. And uses the grounds for adverts and footage of herself all dressed up in royal garb to flog her Mills & Boon books)

She appears to do what she wants, when she wants.... all interspersed with gushing about her ex and the RF (she knows which side her bread is buttered)

None of these things matter if you don't have your full health and SF doesn't

Morestrangerthings1 · 27/09/2023 10:57

They are all poorly regarded for their interviews but omit Andrew (who is rightly and roundly detested by just about everyone), none of them have been subjected to the onslaught of negative, highly critical, and often absolute bullshite, articles in the way Harry and Meghan have. The volume is unprecedented.

None of them experienced in real time the social media response either. None of them have been subjected to the microscopic examination of every word they utter, and every action they take, as much as Harry and Meghan have.

And none of them, not one, have experienced the racism that Meghan has repeatedly been subjected to ever since she appeared on the royal scene in 2016. The punishment for their ‘crimes’ have been eye wateringly, and worryingly, excessive.

That is why I’m drawn to defend them both. They aren’t perfect human beings. But I don’t demand they be so. Both Meghan and Harry have done, or said, things I don’t agree with, and at times they’ve been a bit naff as well. But none of it deserves the amount of shite they cop on a daily basis in an unprecedented volume. It is unlimited and unending.

Thry can be missing from the public sphere for weeks at a time and still it continues. They are damned if they do and famed if they don’t. That they are able to move on - and we see Harry able to do good things with Invictus with Meghan supporting him, and seeing them both being successful at carving out a life for themselves is amazing to me. If a fraction of what has been said about them was said about me I’d not be able to get out of bed in the morning.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 27/09/2023 10:58

Ive never seen a single thread about how Fergie lives on palace grounds still after a divorce and is mooching off the royals, and us, or a thread about her podcast and constant references to the queen, a podcast she uses her title in. If the response is, oh it was ages ago, she's still living there and her podcast is on air now.

Roussette · 27/09/2023 10:58

Serenster · 27/09/2023 10:53

I think Sarah Ferguson has totally recovered from it!

In the eyes of the public…?

If she lived independently of Andrew, I think yes. But she doesn't want to give up the connection, the Royal Estate etc.
How that translates to public opinion, I don't know, but whilst she continues to live with a disgraced and very unpopular member of the RF... that's on her.
She doesn't have to.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 27/09/2023 10:59

None of these things matter if you don't have your full health and SF doesn'

That's a recent issue. She's been living there 30 years. Meghan had poor mental health and that didn't stop anyone here.

Serenster · 27/09/2023 10:59

How that translates to public opinion, I don't know, but whilst she continues to live with a disgraced and very unpopular member of the RF... that's on her.
She doesn't have to

Are you criticising Sarah for her choices there, Roussette?

Roussette · 27/09/2023 11:00

derxa · 27/09/2023 10:57

None of these things matter if you don't have your full health and SF doesn't

I am totally aware of what Sarah Ferguson has been through in the last year. I am talking prior to her diagnosis.
Quite obviously

Iwantcakeeveryday · 27/09/2023 11:01

That is why I’m drawn to defend them both. They aren’t perfect human beings. But I don’t demand they be so. Both Meghan and Harry have done, or said, things I don’t agree with, and at times they’ve been a bit naff as well. But none of it deserves the amount of shite they cop on a daily basis in an unprecedented volume. It is unlimited and unending.

This is it for me too. My own husband does things I don't like sometimes, I don't nag him about them every day. Everyone makes mistakes and missteps. If I defend someone it doesn't mean I think they're my guru or some perfect being. How silly to suggest it. Its the fact they are dehumanised and there is a disproportionate response to perceived wrongs.

Roussette · 27/09/2023 11:03

That is why I’m drawn to defend them both. They aren’t perfect human beings. But I don’t demand they be so. Both Meghan and Harry have done, or said, things I don’t agree with, and at times they’ve been a bit naff as well. But none of it deserves the amount of shite they cop on a daily basis in an unprecedented volume. It is unlimited and unending.

@Morestrangerthings1
This this this. That is totally it for me. They're a couple of flawed people as we all are. They do not deserve what has been levelled at them in the past and ongoing.

I agree... my MH would be in the toilet if I were Meghan, I hope she gets all the support she wants and needs.

Daisyislazy · 27/09/2023 11:04

Morestrangerthings1 · 27/09/2023 10:57

They are all poorly regarded for their interviews but omit Andrew (who is rightly and roundly detested by just about everyone), none of them have been subjected to the onslaught of negative, highly critical, and often absolute bullshite, articles in the way Harry and Meghan have. The volume is unprecedented.

None of them experienced in real time the social media response either. None of them have been subjected to the microscopic examination of every word they utter, and every action they take, as much as Harry and Meghan have.

And none of them, not one, have experienced the racism that Meghan has repeatedly been subjected to ever since she appeared on the royal scene in 2016. The punishment for their ‘crimes’ have been eye wateringly, and worryingly, excessive.

That is why I’m drawn to defend them both. They aren’t perfect human beings. But I don’t demand they be so. Both Meghan and Harry have done, or said, things I don’t agree with, and at times they’ve been a bit naff as well. But none of it deserves the amount of shite they cop on a daily basis in an unprecedented volume. It is unlimited and unending.

Thry can be missing from the public sphere for weeks at a time and still it continues. They are damned if they do and famed if they don’t. That they are able to move on - and we see Harry able to do good things with Invictus with Meghan supporting him, and seeing them both being successful at carving out a life for themselves is amazing to me. If a fraction of what has been said about them was said about me I’d not be able to get out of bed in the morning.

Excellent post

Roussette · 27/09/2023 11:07

Iwantcakeeveryday · 27/09/2023 10:58

Ive never seen a single thread about how Fergie lives on palace grounds still after a divorce and is mooching off the royals, and us, or a thread about her podcast and constant references to the queen, a podcast she uses her title in. If the response is, oh it was ages ago, she's still living there and her podcast is on air now.

Hang on a minute! Let's not forget her 59 books (probably 70 now) under the title Sarah, Duchess of York. And she's not still married to the man who enabled that title for her and hasn't been for nigh on 30 years. Meghan is. One bookand she was pilloried for a very long time.

And of course Sarah's books called "Dining with the Duchess" and "Dieting with the Duchess"
Yes, they exist. Shock

derxa · 27/09/2023 11:08

Iwantcakeeveryday · 27/09/2023 10:59

None of these things matter if you don't have your full health and SF doesn'

That's a recent issue. She's been living there 30 years. Meghan had poor mental health and that didn't stop anyone here.

'a recent issue' !!!!? She's had cancer, a full mastectomy and major reconstructive surgery. Plus the worry of recurrence. I have been through the exact same thing then a recurrence. I'm well off due to a family tragedy. I'd rather be living in poverty than go through all that.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 27/09/2023 11:09

I know, this is what I am talking about with the double standards @Roussette so much fuss about Harry and his family using their titles, but its ok for someone who divorced his Uncle. Fergie moaned about royal life too.

skullbabe · 27/09/2023 11:10

Even when Harry looked bored stiff at Beyoncé.

Not this again.

secretpath · 27/09/2023 11:10

Why do we haveto criticise anyone? Why do we need to pick apart peoples little flaws? they're not working for us anymore.

I think people criticise because they are angry, even if Harry and Meghan are not working members of the RF any more. They are angry about the hurtful and disrespectful way they have treated a much loved monarch and her family. I am not sure Charles is so beloved, but people can relate to the scenario, and imagine it playing out in their own families, and how damaging it would be.

I'm not sure but I can imagine that this feeling of wanting to defend the late Queen is at the heart of the criticism.

Harry and Meghan had every right to explain their decision making, and the unfair treatment they perceive they recieved. But they (and their supporters I feel) need to accept that not everyone will agree with, or like, what they have said and the way they have said it. The criticism has continued for so long because they have not expressed any remorse for the hurt that they have caused, and because they seem to continue to expect to benefit from a family relationship that they clearly despise.

Just my thoughts. Probably all been said before.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 27/09/2023 11:11

derxa · 27/09/2023 11:08

'a recent issue' !!!!? She's had cancer, a full mastectomy and major reconstructive surgery. Plus the worry of recurrence. I have been through the exact same thing then a recurrence. I'm well off due to a family tragedy. I'd rather be living in poverty than go through all that.

I'm very aware of what breast cancer entails, my stepmother died from it. But it is recent and it isn't a fair response to the points made about her living there for 30 years previous. You're weaponising her health issue to deflect from the valid points made about a woman divorced from the family, living on Windsor grounds.

Roussette · 27/09/2023 11:11

derxa · 27/09/2023 11:08

'a recent issue' !!!!? She's had cancer, a full mastectomy and major reconstructive surgery. Plus the worry of recurrence. I have been through the exact same thing then a recurrence. I'm well off due to a family tragedy. I'd rather be living in poverty than go through all that.

Be fair. I and IwantCake are talking prior to her diagnosis. You know we are.

The 29 years prior.

I have posted more than once that I wish Sarah well with this, you too Derxa. My friend went through a double masectomy and reconstruction. I was by her side as much as I could be.

boxedandribboned · 27/09/2023 11:12

I suspect the reason Sarah Ferguson was forgiven for her many and varied transgressions was her apparent humility and ability to laugh at herself. She was utterly humiliated with that toe-sucking and 'Duchess of Pork' business, but she never had many airs and graces.

skullbabe · 27/09/2023 11:13

This unshakeable belief that every single thing they do/say/wear is wonderful.

So this is not the position of most people who defend them - there have been many nuanced opinions on this thread by “defenders” so to speak.

Serenster · 27/09/2023 11:15

They are all poorly regarded for their interviews but omit Andrew (who is rightly and roundly detested by just about everyone), none of them have been subjected to the onslaught of negative, highly critical, and often absolute bullshite, articles in the way Harry and Meghan have. The volume is unprecedented.

None of them experienced in real time the social media response either. None of them have been subjected to the microscopic examination of every word they utter, and every action they take, as much as Harry and Meghan have.

I presume you do recognise however that the world has changed int he last decade, and while you are correct about the volume of articles about Harry and Meghan, and the social media response, other people in the Royal family could not have experienced that in the past because it did not exist?

I presume you would also accept that past Royals also suffered appalling treatment, even if it came in different forms?

I think the changing world means that it’s impossible to make comparisons on these topics.

For example, there may not have been the volume of press headlines about Diana, as Meghan, as the media is considerably more fragmented and diluted now than it was in the 1980s and 1990s, but Diana had pages and pages of coverage every day in the UK tabloids for many years - between them they sold between 9 and 10 million copies a day in the UK 2000. That’s an absolutely massive audience for critical articles, let alone the coverage outside of the UK.

derxa · 27/09/2023 11:17

Roussette · 27/09/2023 11:11

Be fair. I and IwantCake are talking prior to her diagnosis. You know we are.

The 29 years prior.

I have posted more than once that I wish Sarah well with this, you too Derxa. My friend went through a double masectomy and reconstruction. I was by her side as much as I could be.

But you seem to think that '110 acres' and a house with a huge number of rooms is so important. In the grand scheme of things they're not important at all.

skullbabe · 27/09/2023 11:22

Brilliant take @Morestrangerthings1 - H&M are a bit naff sometimes but nothing justifies the relentless negativity towards each and everything that they do.

Roussette · 27/09/2023 11:24

derxa · 27/09/2023 11:17

But you seem to think that '110 acres' and a house with a huge number of rooms is so important. In the grand scheme of things they're not important at all.

So it's OK prior to her diagnosis to wheel in film crews onto a Royal Estate of her side saddle on a horse in medieval times,sat on a swing in royal garb flogging her Mills & Boon books? She has done this countless times.

And Meghan gets criticised for a doormat even though she is still married lol

Iwantcakeeveryday · 27/09/2023 11:24

In the grand scheme of things they're not important at all.

Yet all but Harry and Meghan are hanging on to them, particularly Andrew and Fergie who are not married, and do not work for the firm anymore.

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