Page 10 | Meghan, Duchess of Sussex spotted out and about

queentim · 2023-08-16T15:29:18+00:00

Recently spotted at a TSwift (allegedly), Barbie movie for her birthday, a restaurant, and then hanging out with friends in an Instagram selfie. She looks phenomenal in this photo! Glad to see she's enjoying her life back home with her family. [[https://go.skimresources.com/?id=470X756&isjs=1&jv=15.4.2-stackpath&sref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mumsnet.com%2Ftalk%2Fcreate-thread%3Ftopic%3Dthe_royal_family&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.elle.com%2Fculture%2Fcelebrities%2Fa44820862%2Fmeghan-markle-selfie-casual-late-summer-style%2F&xs=1&xtz=240&xuuid=f5c1ccda10884f3a973f962ae2407013&xjsf=other_click__touchstart%20%5B%5D&cci=e70063536f35f9b6ae2d30f96c1f0572 Meghan summer selfie]]

Rockybooboo · 05/09/2023 07:31

Morestrangerthings1 · 05/09/2023 01:45

No it, matters neither here nor there if Harry enjoyed a Beyoncé show. Except that there’s strong need by some posters, who don’t like Meghan and Harry, to pretend that they aren’t happy, that they are miserable. To actively look for images of Harry looking unhappy. Didn’t this whole H&M Beyoncé conversation start because a poster said that they’d just seen images of Harry looking grim at Beyoncé’s concert? I’m seeing the insistence that Harry and Meghan are unhappy here, on social media elsewhere, and in some of the tabloids.

Its very weird how when posters are provided with links to show Harry enjoying himself that they deny it outright, and then they post from the point of, ‘why does matter if Harry didn’t enjoy himself’.

Its like some posters want to believe what they want to believe no matter what, rather than believe what they’ve just been shown a number of times. I find that really weird.

I’ve posted about Beyoncé being a fabulous performer. It is relevant here, because Harry was at a Beyoncé show, enjoying it. And Harry was also really enjoying being with Meghan at B’s show. And some poster found the need to ask how Beyoncé would feel about Harry looking glum in some photos?

Honestly, I’d rejected the theory of a cult. But not so much now. I was doing a bit of reading overnight re cults (couldn’t sleep) and a lot of the behaviour of some of the people who don’t like Harry and Meghan do seem to fit the definition of cult followers. Not just on here, but elsewhere on social media - all over social media for that matter.

The Royal Family are very cult like. We are brainwashed into believing that they deserve extreme wealth and adulation. There are all these weird protocols like courtesy and referring to them as your majesty or Royal Highness. The coronation was very odd, what really was happening behind that partition ? Then there were were the arrests of the people outside protesting.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 05/09/2023 07:45

The coronation was very odd, what really was happening behind that partition ?

It strikes me as funny that even as the Church of England has ever declining members, we are still expected to believe that it's just fine that the God of the Church of England chose the particular family to provide kings and queens.

Once you really examine it, it is a cult. Complete with religious rituals.

This is really good, from a cult survivor, who saw lots of parallels in SPARE.

https://electricliterature.com/as-a-cult-survivor-i-found-prince-harrys-spare-surprisingly-relatable/

As a Cult Survivor, I Found Prince Harry’s “Spare” Surprisingly Relatable - Electric Literature

I didn’t even refer to our way of life as religion, because religion could be false

https://electricliterature.com/as-a-cult-survivor-i-found-prince-harrys-spare-surprisingly-relatable

smilesy · 05/09/2023 07:58

Rockybooboo · 05/09/2023 07:31

The Royal Family are very cult like. We are brainwashed into believing that they deserve extreme wealth and adulation. There are all these weird protocols like courtesy and referring to them as your majesty or Royal Highness. The coronation was very odd, what really was happening behind that partition ? Then there were were the arrests of the people outside protesting.

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Is it ok to derail a thread like this? Just asking 😉

Iwantcakeeveryday · 05/09/2023 08:02

That is really good @MrsMaxDeWinter
The dictionary definition of a cult is so broad that almost any group of people aligned around a belief system or leader could qualify, but the dangerous kinds of cults share common traits: They’re governed by authoritarian control, believing the leadership is always right and the only source of truth. Followers are taught that they’re never good enough. Criticism or questions are forbidden. And, most importantly, cults believe there is no legitimate reason to leave the group, that former followers are always wrong to go.

smilesy · 05/09/2023 08:12

Iwantcakeeveryday · 05/09/2023 08:02

That is really good @MrsMaxDeWinter
The dictionary definition of a cult is so broad that almost any group of people aligned around a belief system or leader could qualify, but the dangerous kinds of cults share common traits: They’re governed by authoritarian control, believing the leadership is always right and the only source of truth. Followers are taught that they’re never good enough. Criticism or questions are forbidden. And, most importantly, cults believe there is no legitimate reason to leave the group, that former followers are always wrong to go.

There’s a whole other thread discussing feelings about the monarchy. What has this got to do with Meghan being out and about?

edited to correct typo

PrincessTigger · 05/09/2023 08:14

MrsMaxDeWinter · 05/09/2023 07:45

The coronation was very odd, what really was happening behind that partition ?

It strikes me as funny that even as the Church of England has ever declining members, we are still expected to believe that it's just fine that the God of the Church of England chose the particular family to provide kings and queens.

Once you really examine it, it is a cult. Complete with religious rituals.

This is really good, from a cult survivor, who saw lots of parallels in SPARE.

https://electricliterature.com/as-a-cult-survivor-i-found-prince-harrys-spare-surprisingly-relatable/

Divine right of kings was a medieval concept and has not been the case for many centuries, the sovereign does not believe they were chosen by God. The sovereign is annointed by God and they agree to be held accountable by God for what they do with it - like when someone swears instead of affirms in court or parliament the important thing is that THEY believe it. Also this particular king is well respected by many faiths - he is held in high regard in my community, and he made a special effort to ensure Rabbi Mirvis could attend the coronation on Shabbat.

PrincessTigger · 05/09/2023 08:16

I also don’t think it’s in the spirit of things to be accusing everyone else of being in a cult. Very few cults exist, most of the time in fact people have perfectly rational reasons to disagree that ought to be treated with respect.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 05/09/2023 08:19

My apologies @smilesy

I know how much you love to discuss Meghan being out and about.

As you were then!

skullbabe · 05/09/2023 08:25

There’s a whole other thread discussing feelings about the monarchy. What has this got to do with Meghan being out and about?

There is a very real need to label cult leavers as degenerate, fallen and miserable. You see it with the way that Meghan is described as desperate for attention, as merchandising everything, in how her husband being miserable shows sad he is to have left the working royal family and how any moment he will return to the cult leaving her behind. It is in the joy people have when they are not successful at a project. It is in the insistence to label Meghan as a malign force - not talented, not attractive, sexually adventurous, scheming who someone snared a key cult member but if they just opened his eyes he would come back - the penitent with his head bowed and cowed for the rest of his life. It is very relevant.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 05/09/2023 08:36

@skullbabe

Out of interest, do you think Meghan will ever go back to the UK, even to visit?

I don't think she ever will.

skullbabe · 05/09/2023 08:39

Very few cults exist

No - disagree lots of cults exist but by their very nature many people don’t see them.

skullbabe · 05/09/2023 08:42

MrsMaxDeWinter · 05/09/2023 08:36

@skullbabe

Out of interest, do you think Meghan will ever go back to the UK, even to visit?

I don't think she ever will.

There is nothing for Meghan to return to here - so no I highly doubt she will ever return to the UK except for when Charles passes on.

PrincessTigger · 05/09/2023 08:43

skullbabe · 05/09/2023 08:39

Very few cults exist

No - disagree lots of cults exist but by their very nature many people don’t see them.

People who disagree with your POV on various celebrities aren’t in a cult

skullbabe · 05/09/2023 08:56

Didn’t say they were.

LadyMuckingabout · 05/09/2023 09:06

Snort at being in a cult but too brainwashed to realise !

I criticise/am not a fan of many aspects of the royal family and/or specific members. The thing is with the M&H supporters is that they never admit to any failing of either one of them. Even if it’s the incredibly minor issue of enjoying a concert or not.

The only “criticism” I’ve seen on here is doing the Oprah interview, and that was because it turned quite a few people against them, not because it was unpleasant to trash your family in public and the rest of it (eg passport lies etc).

MrsFiddle · 05/09/2023 09:13

This is a new laughable one - so people who are not supporters of Harry and Meghan are in a cult? Usually it is the other way around though - the cult members are the ones devoted to their leader. 😂

MrsFiddle · 05/09/2023 09:16

MrsMaxDeWinter · 05/09/2023 08:36

@skullbabe

Out of interest, do you think Meghan will ever go back to the UK, even to visit?

I don't think she ever will.

Meghan will never return to the UK as she is savvy enough to know that she is disliked immensely by many in the UK. She is not in Harry's bubble.

queenofarles · 05/09/2023 09:17

I just don’t get some posters What does it matter if Harry didn’t enjoy himself? Why does he have to love Beyoncé? Posters are saying how wonderful B is and what a wonderful show yada yada - but what is the relevance?
I have no idea ! and this sort of reaction from some posters is insane , why are some taking it so personal ? pages and pages about this non story.

She enjoyed the concert , he looked indifferent , he enjoyed the football match ,she chose not to come , they don’t have to enjoy both or to attend both, and it doesn’t mean something is wrong with their marriage either .

MrsFiddle · 05/09/2023 09:22

I wonder why they have no job title on the football invitation list. Surely Harry could have author and Meghan actress? Is it a compliment to them?

Meghan, Duchess of Sussex spotted out and about

smilesy · 05/09/2023 09:32

MrsFiddle · 05/09/2023 09:22

I wonder why they have no job title on the football invitation list. Surely Harry could have author and Meghan actress? Is it a compliment to them?

More to the point, who let Liam Gallagher in? 😂😂😂

skullbabe · 05/09/2023 09:37

This is a new laughable one - so people who are not supporters of Harry and Meghan are in a cult?

No - that is not the argument. It’s more nuanced than that but it’s alright to not understand. We should leave it there - I’m sure we can find more things to criticise Meghan about soon.

Rockybooboo · 05/09/2023 09:39

MrsFiddle · 05/09/2023 09:13

This is a new laughable one - so people who are not supporters of Harry and Meghan are in a cult? Usually it is the other way around though - the cult members are the ones devoted to their leader. 😂

Where has anyone said that?

Iwantcakeeveryday · 05/09/2023 09:41

Even if it’s the incredibly minor issue of enjoying a concert or not.

That goes both ways though. Why are you all so determined to argue he didn't;t enjoy it? Based on some tabloid photos right? Others have seen videos where he was having fun and enjoying it. I think its way weirder to decide from a bunch of carefully selected photos he absolutely didn't;t enjoy himself and then have a go at anyone who doesn't agree.

derxa · 05/09/2023 09:42

The thing is with the M&H supporters is that they never admit to any failing of either one of them. Even if it’s the incredibly minor issue of enjoying a concert or not. Yes that's the hilarious bit. As if they are perfect. I can't get over it 😂

Iwantcakeeveryday · 05/09/2023 09:42

MrsFiddle · 05/09/2023 09:13

This is a new laughable one - so people who are not supporters of Harry and Meghan are in a cult? Usually it is the other way around though - the cult members are the ones devoted to their leader. 😂

has anyone said that?