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Prince Harry’s bid to sue The Sun over phone hacking thrown out by High Court judge

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MamoruHisaishi · 27/07/2023 10:51

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/prince-harry-the-sub-phone-hacking-high-court-judge-b1097090.html

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PrincessTigger · 30/07/2023 11:28

Iwantcakeeveryday · 30/07/2023 11:21

Not only that but she believes they prolonged getting justice for her son. the idea anyone is still giving credit to the Daily Mail for this is just... well its crazy to me.

I do not believe for one second the Daily Mail, its editors or owners, give a shit about justice.

They objectively did play a huge role in it. I think I posted earlier that it’s an interesting story - Paul Dacre (former Editor-in-Chief of The Daily Mail) through a weird twist of fate realised he knew Stephen’s father. They also, before that, are alleged to have illegally obtained information on Stephen’s mother and associates. Both things are true.

PrincessTigger · 30/07/2023 11:29

Or well - one thing is true, one thing is alleged (to be decided in court)

Ivyusername · 30/07/2023 12:33

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PrincessTigger · 30/07/2023 12:44

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Andrew was popular when he was younger

Ivyusername · 30/07/2023 12:58

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PrincessTigger · 30/07/2023 13:01

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Ohhhh got it

MrsFinkelstein · 30/07/2023 13:12

Novella4 · 30/07/2023 10:58

@Ivyusername
” It was Andrew, but now the couple have superseded him”

Agreed.
Now why do you think that is ?

Probably because Andrew has given 1 interview and rarely been seen over the past few years.

H&M have done an Oprah interview, a 6 part Netflix series, a series of podcasts, several TV interviews, released a book, several front page magazine interviews and said they were in a "near catastrophic car chase" in NYC - all within the last 3 yrs, most of that within the last 8 months.

They're simply more visible at the moment.

MrsFinkelstein · 30/07/2023 13:13

MrsFinkelstein · 30/07/2023 13:12

Probably because Andrew has given 1 interview and rarely been seen over the past few years.

H&M have done an Oprah interview, a 6 part Netflix series, a series of podcasts, several TV interviews, released a book, several front page magazine interviews and said they were in a "near catastrophic car chase" in NYC - all within the last 3 yrs, most of that within the last 8 months.

They're simply more visible at the moment.

Not to mention being involved in several high profile court cases involving the media.

All things that people talk about.

Novella4 · 30/07/2023 14:55

@MrsFinkelstein @Ivyusername @PrincessTigger

No.

Look at how some issues are pushed forward on the news agenda and others are ignored and if they can’t be ignored , they are brushed over.

Andrew’s ‘friendship’ with a pedophile and his stays with said sex offender after his conviction, and his accusers pursuit of him were huge issues which were never given the coverage that they should have been .

Yes it was reported on , and luckily Andrew was so stupid that he thought he could explain his way out of it during the ill advised interview, but there he is taking part in state occasions again as if nothing had happened.
There he was photographed with Lizzie going to CHURCH . The Church of England said not a word of course .

Oh wait - it’s the we are all sinners line here isn’t it?

Thank god for Rory in Edinburgh literally calling him out.

Harry and Meghan have done nothing to deserve any of the media attacks that they have received .
Their ‘offence ‘ was to look at the ‘royals’ and the way they live and reject it all .
Harrys’s ‘offence’ was to tell the truth about the horrible nest of vipers that the ‘royals ‘ are - back stabbing with the help of a complaint press being their main tactic
Meghans offence was to marry the most popular ‘royal’ and to reject being in this so called perfect family .
Yes the media needs a hate figure - why isn’t it Andrew?
Well I’ve had royalists on here tell me repeatedly why - because he keeps his mouth shut.

They seem oblivious to what they are actually saying about the whole corrupt edifice

LadyMuckingabout · 30/07/2023 15:04

Well, that’s one view of them. I find it hard to swallow the line about “rejecting it all” - who wanted half-in half-out and to have titles? Representing and collaborating with HMTQ?

Btw isn’t the “sinners” thing SussexSquad terminology?

Roussette · 30/07/2023 15:08

Probably because Andrew has given 1 interview and rarely been seen over the past few years.

And what an interview that was. To me, it outweighed anything H&M did. The pomposity, entitlement, lying (I don't sweat, pizza express), his superiority that he actually thought the interview would get him off the hook, him actually saying he was too honourable a man to 'break up' a friendship with a convicted sex offender and trafficker and had to do it face to face.... to me, the damage he did was far more catastrophic than anything H&M did.

At least H&M had the courage to leave. Andrew just hangs around like a bad smell hoping he'll be accepted back, and still wearing dress up at every occasion he can, all whilst living in a 98 acre Royal estate with his ex wife of 28 years.

Indeed @Novella4 why isn't Andrew the hate figure. Instead of a couple who aren't being subsidised by the tax payer, who have left, and on their way out highlighted why they left.

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Novella4 · 30/07/2023 15:29

@Roussette

Apparently Andrew lied about something else and was staying with Epstein while Epstein was under house arrest .

Has that been front page splash news?

I don’t know about the rest of you but I assume you are dashing off posts while doing other things and I wish I had more time to spend on this .
My post above leaves out lots of other factors

Certainly if you are a pro royalist media outlet Harry was a godsend . Look here at horrible Harry , no don’t ask about Andrew .

But the whole ‘royal ‘ personalities nonsense is part of the game .
The republicans who point out that defending Harry is falling for that game are right .
The media helps the ‘royals’ by making a soap opera of the these ( false) characters and the ‘entertainment’ stops people asking questions about the institution as a whole .
My theory is young people are republican because they don’t read the traditional media and so aren’t being propagandised.

Ps Harry is immensely likeable and charismatic , I hope the Windsors are sweating about the court case

PrincessTigger · 30/07/2023 15:32

I think it’s simple: we all agree on Andrew. The only person who believed the sweating thing has now died. What is there to talk about? (Other than why aren’t we talking about Andrew, because there’s nothing we don’t agree on, it’s very circular!)

M&H get talked about as they’re divisive because people don’t agree and also they keep generating new content to talk about.

PrincessTigger · 30/07/2023 15:34

Novella4 · 30/07/2023 15:29

@Roussette

Apparently Andrew lied about something else and was staying with Epstein while Epstein was under house arrest .

Has that been front page splash news?

I don’t know about the rest of you but I assume you are dashing off posts while doing other things and I wish I had more time to spend on this .
My post above leaves out lots of other factors

Certainly if you are a pro royalist media outlet Harry was a godsend . Look here at horrible Harry , no don’t ask about Andrew .

But the whole ‘royal ‘ personalities nonsense is part of the game .
The republicans who point out that defending Harry is falling for that game are right .
The media helps the ‘royals’ by making a soap opera of the these ( false) characters and the ‘entertainment’ stops people asking questions about the institution as a whole .
My theory is young people are republican because they don’t read the traditional media and so aren’t being propagandised.

Ps Harry is immensely likeable and charismatic , I hope the Windsors are sweating about the court case

I don’t find him likeable at all he’s an overprivileged toff. He was only ever charismatic compared to the other members of the royal family. He came across really badly in the witness box last time, completely deluded and out of touch.

Roussette · 30/07/2023 15:38

Totally disagree. But posters views are very coloured by the fact they both left. How very dare they

To me, he comes across well, when relaxed. He had the audience of Stephen Colbert's chat show eating out of his hand. He was on for about 40 minutes, he was eloquent, charming and actually very funny.

Of course, that view will get huge criticism on here, but to me, he is more human and likeable than any of the rest of them.
dons hard hat!

PrincessTigger · 30/07/2023 15:42

Roussette · 30/07/2023 15:38

Totally disagree. But posters views are very coloured by the fact they both left. How very dare they

To me, he comes across well, when relaxed. He had the audience of Stephen Colbert's chat show eating out of his hand. He was on for about 40 minutes, he was eloquent, charming and actually very funny.

Of course, that view will get huge criticism on here, but to me, he is more human and likeable than any of the rest of them.
dons hard hat!

I’ve never been able to stand him! A family friend talked to him at Shul (he did a number of damage control events after he dressed like a Nazi) and said he was completely disinterested, moping around. He got away with so much when he was younger.

And the racist nicknames thing was really outrageous, even more so as he was in a position of power compared to those he called names.

Roussette · 30/07/2023 15:48

As I pointed out, it's just my opinion. Yours may differ.

BadgerB · 30/07/2023 16:02

PrincessTigger · Today 06:25
Almost every single negative story that you know about the rich and powerful, you know because it was printed by the free press. Every law that you can pass to gag the press about an ex-royal will be used to gag the press about a government minister.

This - absolutely imperative!
A free press may (and often does) overstep the mark BUT better that than a muzzled press that lets our elected leaders get away dodgy schemes.
Covid PPE, anyone....

BadgerB · 30/07/2023 16:12

Novella4 · Today 15:29
Ps Harry is immensely likeable and charismatic , I hope the Windsors are sweating about the court case.

Really? I don't know him personally, of course, but he "comes over" as oafish, ignorant, drug addled, self-serving, a serial liar. Tho' I'm sure he loves his wife and children...

Why should the rest of the Royals be worried? His behaviour can only make them look better.

Roussette · 30/07/2023 16:16

Any praise of Harry has to be countered with lots of insults about him!

It's a good job we all have different opinion isn't it... or there would never be discussion on a forum...

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/07/2023 16:20

Certainly if you are a pro royalist media outlet Harry was a godsend. Look here at horrible Harry, no don’t ask about Andrew

Luckily I escape on that point at least, not being any sort of royalist, so naturally I agree with most of your post

One of the bits you left out though was Charles himself - another known paedophile supporter who may well also find it convenient for others to attract most of the disgust

MamoruHisaishi · 30/07/2023 17:01

Novella4 · 30/07/2023 15:29

@Roussette

Apparently Andrew lied about something else and was staying with Epstein while Epstein was under house arrest .

Has that been front page splash news?

I don’t know about the rest of you but I assume you are dashing off posts while doing other things and I wish I had more time to spend on this .
My post above leaves out lots of other factors

Certainly if you are a pro royalist media outlet Harry was a godsend . Look here at horrible Harry , no don’t ask about Andrew .

But the whole ‘royal ‘ personalities nonsense is part of the game .
The republicans who point out that defending Harry is falling for that game are right .
The media helps the ‘royals’ by making a soap opera of the these ( false) characters and the ‘entertainment’ stops people asking questions about the institution as a whole .
My theory is young people are republican because they don’t read the traditional media and so aren’t being propagandised.

Ps Harry is immensely likeable and charismatic , I hope the Windsors are sweating about the court case

Gross. As if a racist can ever be likeable. 🤮

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MamoruHisaishi · 30/07/2023 17:04

Also, lol at the claim that harry was telling the truth in his book. He's already been proven to have lied numerous times, not just in his book but also his interview and his court case. He's not as awful as Andrew (a complete and utter
Scumbag), but imo he's not likeable at all.

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MamoruHisaishi · 30/07/2023 17:07

The judge has already rejected Harry’s claims of palace collusion, has all but called him a liar in his decision to reject the claim, so not sure why the rest of the royals are sweating about the court case.

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