Prince Harry’s bid to sue The Sun over phone hacking thrown out by High Court judge

[MamoruHisaishi]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/prince-harry-the-sub-phone-hacking-high-court-judge-b1097090.html

'effectively calling him a liar' is putting a spin on what the judge said. The judge didn't call him that. Effectively or not. Yes, he isn't going forward with part of it, but the rest is. He is continuing with his law suit, due to be heard in January 2024.

I don’t know why Harry didn’t take his case within the time limit ( if that is the true reason that that part of the case isn’t continuing) but there has been a benefit for Harry regardless and his campaign.

He reminded the general public about the toxic relationship and secret deals between the ‘royals’ and the media.
Reminded us all that Willy took the cash and kept his mouth shut.
And before someone says it - I have nothing but respect for the families who took the papers to court , I don’t begrudge them a penny.
But Willy Windsor ? Rich on the public dime , keeping his head down , no guts or even interest to fight for what’s right ? That’s a bad look .

Events over recent weeks have proved Harry right
As someone said upthread - he has deep pockets. He can take the risk.

I really hate the pitting of these brothers against one another. That’s quite a toxic spin on this in the post above. I also have a hard time understand such extreme anger toward a person you’ve never met, based solely on the word of another person. (I know that’s not unique to people that hate William.)

I understood William donated his compensation to charity ?

But Willy Windsor ? Rich on the public dime , keeping his head down , no guts or even interest to fight for what’s right ? That’s a bad look

just a reminder that it was William going straight to Scotland Yard when he realised his phone must have been hacked that lead directly to the criminal trials that closed down the News of the World.

So far all Harry’s crusade has resulted in his a healthy financial year for his, and the opposing side’s lawyers. And an awful lot of clicks for the media he hates. And him breaching his brother’s privacy while claiming to protect his own.

No he really didn’t.

I don’t ever like seeing someone called a liar without incontrovertible proof that they are purposely lying and that it’s a constant habit.

I did say that but don’t really go with the rest of your post

Seems a bit ott

@Serenster
Goi g to Scotland Yard - if he did - was Willy looking out for Willy . What’s new?
He did not speak out .

He left that to others

Weak

@Mylovelygreendress
The charity line is repeated a lot .

Ive yet to see proof

But the criticism of William for doing this has largely come from…. Harry’s fans! (who, as pointed out above have seized on something to give them a chance to draw halos and horns over the individual brothers). Are you saying that Harry’s fans might actually have criticised Harry if he had settled his claims out of court? I find that hard to believe! 😀

(most of the rest of the world appear to have recognised that settling out of court is perfectly common, and indeed sensible).

It’s all detailed in the Leveson report, Novella.

@Serenster

Yes lol

And funnily enough sending people to prison for criminal acts is generally seen as a good outcome if you want to deter poor behaviour. Works a bit better than effectively fining them through damages claims (particularly when the defendant also has very deep pockets).

Why is any of this an issue ?
Why are we even talking about these brothers?

I agree with those who point out it helps deflect from the ‘royals’ and helps them escape scrutiny .

But get the facts straight .
Harry appeared dutiful and supportive before the split. As a republican I was unsettled by his marriage to Meghan knowing the combination would revive the ‘royals’
I needn’t have worried .

@Serenster

It doesn’t not seem to have lanced the boil of toxic British media does it ?

That needs high profile brave individuals to publicly fight and that’s what will continue next year

Not sure I get your point.

No, I didn't say Harry fans would criticise him for that, but sure as eggs is eggs, detractors of Harry would find fault with whatever he did. Go to court, he's a fool and he lies, shut up go away. Take the money... how dare you not stand with the others, you just want a payout.
I admire him for pushing forward with this.

Are the news papers still hacking phones, Novella?

Haha indeed!

It's just as bad as it was. If not worse.

So far all Harry’s crusade has resulted in his a healthy financial year for his, and the opposing side’s lawyers. And an awful lot of clicks for the media he hates. And him breaching his brother’s privacy while claiming to protect his own

That reminds me, Serenster; nobody's yet said what the implications are around costs for the hacking bit - or will the whole thing be held over until the cases are finished?

Also, can I ask again how come the hacking and illegal information gathering have amounted to two hearings, when surely phone hacking is illegal in itself and must presumably have also been used to gather information?

and Roussette, the thing about settling out of court is that it’s private. So unless someone spilled the beans on Harry as he did to his brother, no-one would ever know.

It would be pretty obvious he got a payout and do you know what? I don't care. There's enough secrecy within the RF as it is.

Why would it be obvious, Roussette?

And I find your stance perplexing. Harry absolutely should be fighting for the right to keep his private information private. Except for the outcome of the battles he has behind the scenes to assert his rights. Those should be public.. I can’t follow that.

But no one else has to make it public that they have had a settlement, so why should William have to even though there is “enough secrecy” in the Royal Family. William has done nothing wrong in accepting a settlement and nor would Harry have done. It is what the courts encourage.

@smilesy Willy is

No.

We know the royals need the media .

They rely on them for exposure ( don’t want another Aberdeen do we Willy?) and to help manipulate the public. Look how many people on here are defending the indefensible- eg Charles’ 45 % pay increase .

Willy pocketing the money and keeping quiet makes him look in cahoots

@Puzzledandpissedoff on the costs point, that depends. Costs may be determined at this stage, or left to be determined later. It’s up to the court.

As for the different treatment of the hacking and the other illegal information gathering, the judge found that Prince Harry knew his phone had been hacked more than 6 years before he filed his claim. That was therefore out of time and the relevant sections of his claim were struck out.

The judge decided the evidence was less clear on the other things Harry was complaining about. He thought it was arguable that Harry had found out about them at a later date, so those claims could be in time. He did not decide that those claims are in time, just that they could be. So Harry gets to have a hearing on them, and in the course of that hearing both sides can produce evidence to show when he first learned of them. If they too are found to be out of time, Harry will lose on those too.