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Harry and Megan dubbed "fucking grifters" by Spotify exec and podcaster

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Qbish · 17/06/2023 09:29

No great surprise there... Would love to hear his story about Zooming Prince Harry, I can only imagine his frustration with the whining ninny!

Leading Spotify figure lashes out at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle after end of podcast deal | The Independent

Leading Spotify figure lashes out at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

Sussexes inked three-year $25m deal with audio company but produced just one series of content

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/spotify-harry-meghan-podcast-deal-end-b2359279.html

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Elior · 18/06/2023 16:37

I think the money hunger is extremely off putting and incompatible with money-no-object brands. The brand ambassadors are usually supremely successful in another field, usually acting (Lawrence, Portman etc) and often loaded. Everyone knows that the Sussexes are hungry for fame and cash and that will soon be the first thing that springs to mind when they are discusses by brands. I don't even think that Target would want that association.

Howsimplywonderful · 18/06/2023 16:40

@Elior

Maybe Kim Kardasian could sign her up as a ‘skims ambassador’ and she could get some well fitting underwear

Elior · 18/06/2023 16:42

Apart from her age, she has had a staggering amount of very obvious work. Usually, an agency will get a model on their books two years before they plan to send them to auditions for shows so usually as a teenager. Any work they may need or want will be carefully discussed and mutually agreed. A tacky surgery job can ruin a career in an instant or have you taken off the books. That whole fresh faced thing is especially important in editorial so Hollywood style over-surgery is a no-no. Currently, natural hair is also favoured over the alternatives.

FloofCloud · 18/06/2023 17:25

Why in earth did my comment get deleted? I wasn't rude and I didn't say anything trolling - I'm really not sure who police these threads 🤯

Serenster · 18/06/2023 17:41

She never was and she never will be fashion model material and that is not a specific criticism of her at all. It remains extremely cut throat and even a taller, well proportioned, younger version of Meghan would unlikely get a look in at the major agencies.

just on that point, I was watching the latest series of the BBC series Glow Up, in which aspiring make up artists try to win a prize to help them launch a career. Genuine catwalk model and Victoria’s Secret Angel Leomie Anderson has taken over from Maya Jama as the host. And it’s such a striking illustration of how a high fashion model is born, not made. The series has a lot of creative experts appearing and the contestants, many of whom are very attractive by any reasonable standards. But they are all like a herd of zebra around a gazelle - there is absolutely no mistaking which one is the successful fashion model. It’s the one that’s very tall, very slender, legs for days, glowing skin, and looking perfectly poised in whatever edgy outfit the styling team has dressed her in. 🤣🤣

(so even though a Hollywood actress may be very physically beautiful, that’s not going to mean crossovers into high fashion modelling is possible - and it tends to go the other way, like with Catriona Balfe and Cara Delevigne).

AutumnCrow · 18/06/2023 17:43

FloofCloud · 18/06/2023 17:25

Why in earth did my comment get deleted? I wasn't rude and I didn't say anything trolling - I'm really not sure who police these threads 🤯

I can't recall what you said. Could you give us a very bland, innocuous idea of the gist?

I'm happy to avoid typing things that are going to be deleted, because I don't want threads to be shut down or a telling off from MNHQ, tbh. I find the Royal Family board fascinating and hope it stays vibrant and interesting.

TrashyPanda · 18/06/2023 17:52

Thank you so much for all the good wishes

I can see the benefits for Meghan - but what would be in it for Dior?

she isn’t at A list events, doesn’t go to the Oscars, is basically a SAHM (just to be clear, I am not being at all critical of anyone who choses to be with their children) who doesn’t go out a lot. I think she’s been to 2 award ceremonies this year and went to some sports thing with Harry. So they aren’t going to get much exposure out of the deal.

Qbish · 18/06/2023 17:53

Elior · 18/06/2023 16:42

Apart from her age, she has had a staggering amount of very obvious work. Usually, an agency will get a model on their books two years before they plan to send them to auditions for shows so usually as a teenager. Any work they may need or want will be carefully discussed and mutually agreed. A tacky surgery job can ruin a career in an instant or have you taken off the books. That whole fresh faced thing is especially important in editorial so Hollywood style over-surgery is a no-no. Currently, natural hair is also favoured over the alternatives.

Has she?! I can guess the nose and the teeth, but she seems natural to me. Those aren't even that obvious.

And as for models being gazelles, Kate Moss broke that mould.

Dior (or whoever) doesn't need her to be a gazelle. Or natural. They need her to be someone that their targeted demographic would find aspirational. And when she was royal, and popular, and appearing next to the late Queen, they were happy to design for her. But, with all the whining and spinning, as other PPs have said, I think that ship has sailed. She wore stuff for Ralph Lauren before, that's probably where she is now.

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Howsimplywonderful · 18/06/2023 17:55

Jennifer Aniston used to wear a lot of Ralph Lauren (back in the day I used to follow these things)

FloofCloud · 18/06/2023 18:02

@AutumnCrow
Someone said she was stunning and I replied I didn't think she was pretty

SirQuintusAureliusMaximus · 18/06/2023 18:03

@FloofCloud
Why in earth did my comment get deleted? I wasn't rude and I didn't say anything trolling - I'm really not sure who police these threads

I agree FloofCloud - yours seemed perfectly fair opinion to me and I agreed with you. I read it because it was between a couple of posts of mine but then when I posted it had been deleted.

Sometimes deletion here is bizarred. I guess someone reported it as 'not in the spirit'? It shouldn't have been deleted though.

Gracewithoutend · 18/06/2023 18:05

That makes sense because she worked for Ralph on Friends. He guest appeared.

I love Jennifer Anniston. ❤ And I always think she looks fab both facially and clothes wise.

Qbish · 18/06/2023 18:10

Howsimplywonderful · 18/06/2023 17:55

Jennifer Aniston used to wear a lot of Ralph Lauren (back in the day I used to follow these things)

Yes. And Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy. But Ralph Lauren was higher end then.

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cobicat · 18/06/2023 18:11

Unpopular opinion, but I don't think either Meghan or Jennifer Anniston are attractive, their eyes are too close-set. They also smile in an unnatural way due to too-large veneers. As said, my opinion only, I'm sure most would disagree!

Howsimplywonderful · 18/06/2023 18:19

the kids convinced me to watch ant man quadsomething last night.

Michelle Pffeifer was in it. She’s in her sixties (65), her hair was grey, she has aged but she’s still such a beautiful woman.

jeffgoldblum · 18/06/2023 18:23

Yes @Howsimplywonderful , I saw that , was amazed at how stunning she still looked and impressed she looked so natural!

SirQuintusAureliusMaximus · 18/06/2023 18:23

Just watched this linked from Tattle. It's very funny - he calls them The Meghans and talks about them restarting the Royal Revenge Store.

Harry and Meghan CAUGHT! Spotify DUMPS! Grift EXPOSED!

Prince Harry and Meghan just received a reality check. Join us as we explore how the public views the couple, why the British Royal Family distanced themselv...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gov9kzzAJ9c

Serenster · 18/06/2023 18:33

And as for models being gazelles, Kate Moss broke that mould.

Firstly, Kate Moss was still 5’7. Other well- known models that height (Lily Rose Depp, Georgia May Jagger) clearly had doors opened to them via nepotism, not because the entry criteria of 5’9 had been swept away. And a handful of shorter models on the catwalk in the literal hundreds and hundreds of tall models over the last forty years doesn’t sound too much like the mould has been broken, rather that there are limited exceptions made for models who have something else to recommend them. (Which might be an iconic look that fits the zeitgeist, or might be famous parents…).

None of this remotely suggests that shorter than Kate Moss, very attractive but not previously striking as a model, and 40-plus Meghan Markle is likely to be offered a gig as s fashion model for Dior any time soon. Far more likely for other brands which have committed to more diverse casting for their fashion shows, but Dior’s not one of them Dior didn’t even gave black models on its runway until 2013, and if you look at its recent shows its models are all 5’9 and above.

(none of this is ANY reflection on Meghan, it’s just for Dior to use her as a fashion model would require a real change of approach from them).

Gracewithoutend · 18/06/2023 18:48

I don't agree with everything he says, Quintus, but what fantastic editing! A treat to watch.

jeffgoldblum · 18/06/2023 18:50

Tattle is a bit harsh for my tastes, but each to their own. 😀

BoohooWoohoo · 18/06/2023 18:52

Sauvage is extremely popular with teenage boys and sales apparently skyrocketed after the trial but $20m is a massive amount.

Harry and Megan dubbed "fucking grifters" by Spotify exec and podcaster
Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/06/2023 18:54

Ifit doesn't go ahead, isn't that just something else she was considered no good for? Another company that rejected her

Not necessarily - we don't even know if it's true yet, and if not she could hardly be rejected from something which was never offered in the first place

I'm still wondering why someone who's presumably her spokesperson mentioned "distancing herself" though

SunbathingDragon · 18/06/2023 19:31

Johnny was an A lister for decades before his trials and it was a continuation of his deal with them rather than suddenly giving him a great contract. I would imagine that even post trial, Johnny had more fans than Meghan has right now and he had historically proven that he sold perfume so it was a worthwhile risk to carry on with him.

Elior · 18/06/2023 19:35

It isn't really decided by applying a formula. He happens to have the pull, the charisma, the popularity, cool A List exes, the je-ne-sais-quoi and he makes them money. He has always had a lot going for him. People aspire to be like him at various stages of his career. Ditto Portman and Lawrence. They are just guaranteed to make the money.

BoohooWoohoo · 18/06/2023 19:37

Did Dior mute comments on their social media during the trial? I'd imagine that the comments below an image of Meghan could get very messy and not high brow at all.

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