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The sudden unusual turn on Princess Kate

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Whatt · 29/05/2023 07:56

Today, I wanted to share something thought-provoking that has caught my attention recently - a noticeable change in the way the media portrays Kate Middleton.

Some publications that previously showed favor towards Kate (DM cough, cough) have started publishing stories that present her in a more critical light. It's an interesting shift.

Firstly, there's a story circulating about an encounter between Kate and a convicted murderer at a charity event. Additionally, there's talk of the taxpayer potentially providing support for her family's struggling business. This raises questions about the circumstances surrounding their business venture and the implications it may have for public funds.

What's intriguing is the parallel being drawn between Kate's current media treatment and the scrutiny faced by Meghan Markle in the past. It's worth discussing whether there's a connection or simply a coincidence.

Furthermore, there's some buzz on Twitter suggesting that Kate may have unintentionally upstaged the King during the Chelsea Flower Show. While it may seem like harmless gossip, it's interesting to consider the impact of such events on the monarchy's reputation. Some even speculate that Camilla might have been involved in the leak of these stories, adding an extra layer to the intrigue.

Taking a step back, it's worth pondering whether the monarchy should be concerned about being upstaged in this day and age. Are we witnessing a shift in priorities and expectations?

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WinnieTheW0rm · 29/05/2023 19:02

You know, we only have Harry's word about the planting of negative stories. And I don't rate his reliability.

What I think has happened is that the various Royal press offices, in co-operation, work to reduce negative reporting. They stopped, of course, for H&M when they left. And H&M noticed the difference.

But I think they are wrong to attribute it to briefing against them. But it must be impossible to doublethink that "they did nothing to protect me/my wife" and see the obvious point that coverage became harsher because that protection/professionalism has ended. So new angle of blame required

GloriousD · 29/05/2023 19:09

WinnieTheW0rm · 29/05/2023 19:02

You know, we only have Harry's word about the planting of negative stories. And I don't rate his reliability.

What I think has happened is that the various Royal press offices, in co-operation, work to reduce negative reporting. They stopped, of course, for H&M when they left. And H&M noticed the difference.

But I think they are wrong to attribute it to briefing against them. But it must be impossible to doublethink that "they did nothing to protect me/my wife" and see the obvious point that coverage became harsher because that protection/professionalism has ended. So new angle of blame required

I think this too. The RF are a firm with a clear succession why would they self harm part of their own business?

Surely there is a joined up corporate communications strategy?

Spectre8 · 29/05/2023 19:13

Haha there was even worst negative stories when H&M were still part of the Royal family, esp after Australia.

And there are other sources who validate the briefing against each other.

End of the day the newspapers need to make money, clickbait articles is one of them and the royals are easy clickbait material. Now h&m aren't giving them much its now overload on everyone else. Why else would the daily mail suddenly create an entire section to the royal family on their digital version? All about generating money and they don't care how they do.

savory · 29/05/2023 19:19

warblingwater · 29/05/2023 18:48

If I was a real cynic I might think the media has been briefed to slowly slowly help turn the tide on Kate so when a divorce was to come along in the distant future then there won't be huge public outcry.

That's exactly how it will work if that day comes. The RF is a real life Succession and will destroy everybody if needs be spare the Heir.

Ethelswith · 29/05/2023 19:20

That Australia trip sticks in my mind because they announced her first pregnancy on International Baby Loss day, and the months of planning and persuasion that got BBC Breakfast to cover stillbirth was totally lost. It went out just after 6am (with a 'more later', as it was intended to be segments throughout that day's show) but then news broke and it all went out of the window.

Whoever was in charge of their communications really fucked up over that - a few hours (given the time difference) would have made no difference whatsoever to the required Aussie changes to itinerary, and would have made a significant difference to bereaved parents and the charities that support them.

And yes, I still remember after all this time. Because it was such a shitty thing to do

LimeCheesecake · 29/05/2023 19:22

@GloriousD - that presumes the palace sees Kate as part of the firm succession. If she’s facing an exit, or threatening an exit, then a strategy of undermining her popularity would make sense.

Id noticed a return of bad press about her specifically, it could be they’ve run out of things to say about Meghan and need new negative target. It could be quiet briefings.

passiveaggressivenonsense · 29/05/2023 19:23

WinterInStyle · 29/05/2023 08:08

It's worth discussing whether there's a connection or simply a coincidence.

It is?

I'll ask ChatGPT.

Haha. Yes this post has a definite Chatgpt vibe !

Colinfromaccounts · 29/05/2023 19:29

Will and Kate have the duchy of Cornwall now. So Charles isn’t controlling the purse strings any more and they can do things like make appearances wherever they’d like. Watch what happens next, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Elior · 29/05/2023 19:32

I don't think any of the working royals are complaining about the press behaving in the way they always have.

tigger2022 · 29/05/2023 19:40

savory · 29/05/2023 19:19

That's exactly how it will work if that day comes. The RF is a real life Succession and will destroy everybody if needs be spare the Heir.

So why do you think that would happen (repeatedly, humiliatingly) for one heir and his wife but not the next? The tabloids have never sat on a negative story about the Middletons, ever (how do we know about James and his businesses or Pippa and her dodgy billionaire? because it was in the papers). This is wishful thinking from people who think Catherine should be punished for marrying above her station.

Saschka · 29/05/2023 19:46

GloriousD · 29/05/2023 19:09

I think this too. The RF are a firm with a clear succession why would they self harm part of their own business?

Surely there is a joined up corporate communications strategy?

I thought it was common knowledge that there actually isn’t a joined up communications strategy? The individual press offices are independent, and in competition.

Bonkers from a practical perspective, and probably financially wasteful, but I suppose harks back to the king and queen running different “households” and having their own courtiers and favourites.

Cherryana · 29/05/2023 19:46

Basically Kate js beautiful and youthful and charming. Her presence will always upstage old sausage fingers. He hated it with Diana and he will hate it with Kate and I thought the CFS story was right on the old money.

savory · 29/05/2023 19:50

tigger2022 · 29/05/2023 19:40

So why do you think that would happen (repeatedly, humiliatingly) for one heir and his wife but not the next? The tabloids have never sat on a negative story about the Middletons, ever (how do we know about James and his businesses or Pippa and her dodgy billionaire? because it was in the papers). This is wishful thinking from people who think Catherine should be punished for marrying above her station.

Well let's for argument’s sake say there were problems in their marriage and William was playing away and at some point she can't take it any more and wants out along with the years long Diana public sulks and won't play ball with the PR. If that day ever came the toxic briefing from the Palace would begin to lay the ground for yet another a Royal divorce. In the modern era it would be debatable whether the Windsor's could survive such an eventuality.

tigger2022 · 29/05/2023 20:12

savory · 29/05/2023 19:50

Well let's for argument’s sake say there were problems in their marriage and William was playing away and at some point she can't take it any more and wants out along with the years long Diana public sulks and won't play ball with the PR. If that day ever came the toxic briefing from the Palace would begin to lay the ground for yet another a Royal divorce. In the modern era it would be debatable whether the Windsor's could survive such an eventuality.

So your hypothesis is, the palace is leaking that a company formerly owned by Kate’s parents can’t repay a loan, to make Kate more unpopular and lay the groundwork for an impending divorce (while still actively sending her out on engagements which make her more popular)

Here’s an alternate hypothesis: the Daily Mail survives on ad revenue and literally any story even tangentially related to the RF is going to get clicks now, positive or negative (there are some people weirdly invested in hoping the Waleses will divorce) and all this information about the business being sold is in the public domain, and it’s not even Kate’s business anyway, it’s her retirement-aged parents’ ex-business.

TheMurderousGoose · 29/05/2023 20:25

I find all the rumours that Camilla briefs against people to the press very interesting. I suppose that is how life at court has operated over the centuries.

savory · 29/05/2023 20:29

I wouldn't say that is happening now but that is how it could happen in some distant future. True aristos will find the Middleton's ever so pushy and nouveau riche - folk who have bought their own furniture. All the snobbery from the dim distant past would come back again no doubt. They are not nice people those that are born to rule.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-449071/William-horrified-sneers-Kates-mum.html

Elior · 29/05/2023 20:37

TheMurderousGoose · 29/05/2023 20:25

I find all the rumours that Camilla briefs against people to the press very interesting. I suppose that is how life at court has operated over the centuries.

Camilla, Meghan, Bea and Eugenie could brief against Kate all day long but she is so well regarded in comparison that they aren't going to be able to achieve anything.

StaunchMomma · 29/05/2023 20:57

littleburn · 29/05/2023 18:53

Yes, this was my understanding from reading Courtiers. The different palace press offices operate independently of each other and so there's an underlying tension/competitiveness to keep 'their people' on top. So if the King's people feel he's being overshadowed, then there may be an attempt to rebalance that by sharing/encouraging stories that knock the Wales' down a peg or two.

A truly awful way for a family to operate and, it would seem, the catalyst for this whole Harry debacle.

It's sad really. I'd hate to think a close family member would sell me out, or that I'd do so to them just for popularity.

StaunchMomma · 29/05/2023 21:00

GloriousD · 29/05/2023 19:09

I think this too. The RF are a firm with a clear succession why would they self harm part of their own business?

Surely there is a joined up corporate communications strategy?

We don't only have Harry's word for it - if we did I'd probably not pay it much mind, but quite a few workers from the press offices have confirmed it.

They've been doing it for years.

polkadotdalmation · 30/05/2023 10:09

Courtiers by valentine low, doesn't say they various office fed negative stories about other members of the royal family to the press, with the aim of negatively impacting their image, as Harry alleges. More that they tried to up the image of their own boss. There's a big difference.

stillavid · 30/05/2023 15:30

I definitely think something is going on. There is a lot of speculation about the role Camilla plays in briefing the press, rather like Diana did. The very glowing piece about her in the times just before the coronation said she was a very skilled courtier - I am not sure if that was a compliment or not.

MissTrip82 · 04/06/2023 23:30

Hbh17 · 29/05/2023 11:02

Yet again, her name isn't "Princess Kate".... there is no such person! You presumably mean HRH The Princess of Wales?

So weird you could guess who the OP meant! Almost as if it it’s absolutely and entirely clear who this ‘no such person’ is.

Throughalookingglass · 06/06/2023 12:39

Elior · 29/05/2023 20:37

Camilla, Meghan, Bea and Eugenie could brief against Kate all day long but she is so well regarded in comparison that they aren't going to be able to achieve anything.

Is she?

The public are very fickle.

Sunnyeverday · 06/06/2023 18:08

I understand Kate has now teamed up with the Sun so that should cement their relationship and eliminate negative articles about her from their news group.

Such a shame. Harry is doing the hard work, while Kate even for the sake of her husband's mother's memory just partners up with them.

polkadotdalmation · 06/06/2023 18:47

Sunnyeverday · 06/06/2023 18:08

I understand Kate has now teamed up with the Sun so that should cement their relationship and eliminate negative articles about her from their news group.

Such a shame. Harry is doing the hard work, while Kate even for the sake of her husband's mother's memory just partners up with them.

Could you link to this claim? I can't find anything

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