The sudden unusual turn on Princess Kate

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Today, I wanted to share something thought-provoking that has caught my attention recently - a noticeable change in the way the media portrays Kate Middleton.

Some publications that previously showed favor towards Kate (DM cough, cough) have started publishing stories that present her in a more critical light. It's an interesting shift.

Firstly, there's a story circulating about an encounter between Kate and a convicted murderer at a charity event. Additionally, there's talk of the taxpayer potentially providing support for her family's struggling business. This raises questions about the circumstances surrounding their business venture and the implications it may have for public funds.

What's intriguing is the parallel being drawn between Kate's current media treatment and the scrutiny faced by Meghan Markle in the past. It's worth discussing whether there's a connection or simply a coincidence.

Furthermore, there's some buzz on Twitter suggesting that Kate may have unintentionally upstaged the King during the Chelsea Flower Show. While it may seem like harmless gossip, it's interesting to consider the impact of such events on the monarchy's reputation. Some even speculate that Camilla might have been involved in the leak of these stories, adding an extra layer to the intrigue.

Taking a step back, it's worth pondering whether the monarchy should be concerned about being upstaged in this day and age. Are we witnessing a shift in priorities and expectations?

Also, in case people are interested in just how dire Covid has been for literally thousands of business across the UK, more than 22,000 companies went into an insolvency process in 2023. That was considerably up from 14,000 in 2021 and 12,500 in 2020.

What that shows us is that having tried and failed to recover from 2 years of hugely disrupted trading in 2020 and 2021, those companies couldn’t recover fast enough to continue to be able to pay their debts. Every single one of those will have left people owed money (because that’s the very definition of a corporate insolvency - you are unable to pay your debts as they fall due).

Oh yes we do, she's been accused of being a criminal, abandoning her daughter and all sorts.

Not on this thread @Iwantcakeeveryday or any of its predecessors for a long time now. I’m sorry if that’s disappointing for you but it’s true.

Of course there are many other companies that are in a similar position, the difference here is their daughter is the future queen and son in law future King, making it far more newsworthy, especially as they have such wealth in their family. It is really morally wrong, no matter the legality, of wealthy people borrowing money guaranteed by the tax payer while they protect their own assets. The middleotns have more than £5 million in property and that should have been liquidised before taking a govt backed loan.

Why would I be disappointed in that? No not a long time, I have read these things recently, around the time of the coronation. Far worse things have been said about Doria than what is said here about the business failing and tax payer forking out to a wealthy family,

It may be newsworthy but it doesn’t make them a special case. The Middletons took a loan they were entitled to. So did many others. By all means take issue with the scheme which allowed this, but to focus on the Middletons just because of who they are is ridiculous.

@Serenster makes as usual very good points. The business was restructured which usually leads to it being put on the market.

It was hit by covid in two ways. Firstly the demand for parties went through the floor and secondly stocking became an issue.

I bought from them (pre Brexit as I’m in ireland) and they had a full range of items) but I noticed after covid that many ranges in many stores would be missing elements such at the cups/napkins etc and suddenly many shops stopped selling items down to stocking issues.

They put their own money into the business and clearly wanted to turn it round but it would be a very long road.

but to focus on the Middletons just because of who they are is ridiculous.

Oh I do not think so, I think who they are matters and actually they should be held to a higher standard as the parents of the future Queen, its part of the role their family has taken on, as they appear at so many royal events.

They put their own money into the business and clearly wanted to turn it round but it would be a very long road.

They should put their own money in, it's their business! The problem is they also loaned money from the taxpayer when they personally have the funds to cover it, and all the current debt, themselves. They will stay personally rich, while companies they owe money to are going to struggle even more- they also suffered during covid and now this.

I think they have clearly tried to remedy the situation. They clearly tried to turn it around but failed. You don’t seem to understand that before covid it was a successful business A are you in the U.K. ?

They have followed the rules, they’re not asked the RF for money. They’ve just been really unlucky with their timing.

They hoped to hand it over to a buyer as a going concern.

Actually they should be held to a higher standard as the parents of the future Queen.

I find this kind of suggestion really odd. They are not remotely responsible for their daughter’s choices and actions, she was an adult when she met William and an adult when she married him. They have complied with the letter of the law. Why do they need to be held to some nebulous higher standard (and what is it?).

They may have tried to turn it around, but they were in debt already when they launched in America, and the main point is they are personally wealthy still but have left smaller companies with money owed to them- and the tax payer. They may turn around and personally pay it back, but the people owed are being told that's unlikely and they are not obliged to. I think its reasonable for people to object to them borrowing money and owing money while they are fairly wealthy, and their daughter and her husband are extremely wealthy and will be King and Queen.

They may have tried to turn it around, but they were in debt already when they launched in America

Most companies carry a large operating debt. That’s completely normal and not any kind of moral failing as you appear to be insinuating. It’s the equivalent of asking why someone is buying a new car when they have a mortgage.

🙄Raise it with your MP and learn the basics of business finance. It is pointless to demonise people who haven't broken any rules.

Thank you but I am going to carry on contributing to this discussion. Nobody is being demonised, it's a criticism of their choices and borrowing from the public.

The Middleton’s are limited in their choices though.

I’m willing to bet there were a few dodgy Russians and other undesirables sniffing around and they would have had their own money repaid at least.
They could have made a documentary using their grandkids to flog stuff but they didn’t

Imagine the H&M furore if they used a kids birthday in a documentary like H&M but with party pieces merchandise

They never did though. I respect them for that

Perhaps the Middleton’s should have sent some stuff for the Sussex’s to merchandise on their behalf 🤣🤣🤣🤣 200 dollars worth of stock probably gets you a typed note signed by an employee and an article in Hello

and People magazine

@Howsimplywonderful and @Serenster , I learn more from your posts than I do from reading!
Particularly about business!

I'll wait for Uncle Gary to provide further details next weekend!

They would have had to take out a loan to expand into the states, to fund a lot of upfront costs

They would have needed a separate distribution route, a warehouse, US stocks, upfront marketing and legal costs, staffing in the US etc

Interesting @Howsimplywonderful !

They would have presented a business plan to the bank and been accepted for a loan. Business’s do it all the time.

Even the woman who made William and Kate's wedding cake is owed money! Now that's embarrassing.