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The sudden unusual turn on Princess Kate

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Whatt · 29/05/2023 07:56

Today, I wanted to share something thought-provoking that has caught my attention recently - a noticeable change in the way the media portrays Kate Middleton.

Some publications that previously showed favor towards Kate (DM cough, cough) have started publishing stories that present her in a more critical light. It's an interesting shift.

Firstly, there's a story circulating about an encounter between Kate and a convicted murderer at a charity event. Additionally, there's talk of the taxpayer potentially providing support for her family's struggling business. This raises questions about the circumstances surrounding their business venture and the implications it may have for public funds.

What's intriguing is the parallel being drawn between Kate's current media treatment and the scrutiny faced by Meghan Markle in the past. It's worth discussing whether there's a connection or simply a coincidence.

Furthermore, there's some buzz on Twitter suggesting that Kate may have unintentionally upstaged the King during the Chelsea Flower Show. While it may seem like harmless gossip, it's interesting to consider the impact of such events on the monarchy's reputation. Some even speculate that Camilla might have been involved in the leak of these stories, adding an extra layer to the intrigue.

Taking a step back, it's worth pondering whether the monarchy should be concerned about being upstaged in this day and age. Are we witnessing a shift in priorities and expectations?

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LimeCheesecake · 06/08/2023 09:13

Maireas · 06/08/2023 08:59

seems about right for his personality
Is that evidence for an affair?

Nope, not evidence, which is why although the rumours go round and round, they’re not hitting the press.

My assumptions about Kate are pretty much based on public image and a few people who knew her when she was young, but she seems strong enough to put up with a lot for her dcs.

Maireas · 06/08/2023 09:18

I have no idea either, @LimeCheesecake . We've really no idea if there has been an affair at all.

MrsFinkelstein · 06/08/2023 09:37

I would say the affair rumours are highly unlikely (& certainly not with RH), purely because the press would have published had they got even an inkling.

Super injunctions do not apply outside England & Wales.

There is nothing the RF PR team could do or say that could stop any journalist worth the name (or any Editor) printing that story if they got proof.

MrsFinkelstein · 06/08/2023 09:38

And someone would talk. Someone always talks.

Maireas · 06/08/2023 09:41

I agree, @MrsFinkelstein .
I think some people are just spreading rumours.

BadgerB · 06/08/2023 09:48

Iwasafool · Today 08:53
My guess would be yes Badger, Charles would have married Camilla after he became King.
Camilla was a divorcee and the Queen allowed the marriage, I'm not sure that both being divorcees would have made much difference. .

Big difference from QE's point of view. Camilla is merely the consort. It's the King who must be seen to be (publicly) righteous. He is allowed mistresses, of course, but marrying one would have been a bit "off". As a widower, much easier.

LimeCheesecake · 06/08/2023 10:22

I do think if Diana had remarried, it would have pushed public opinion towards Camila and Charles. She also talked about moving to NY once the boys were over 18, which was only 5 years away at the point she died, that also would have made a big difference.

RYGO · 06/08/2023 10:34

LimeCheesecake · 06/08/2023 08:12

I do believe some of the William affairs rumours - seems about right for his personality. And the rumour was they broke up when first dating because he’d cheated.

but also think Kate is bright enough to know her choices and decided to stick with him. She’d be ripped to shreds by the press if she left, no matter what he’d done.

LMAO You believe affair rumors because of his personality. How would you know what his personality is?

And they didn't broke up in 2007 (they were broken up for seven weeks) because of cheating. Never ever was there a reason given for their break up. There also was never any evidence of cheating.

"She’d be ripped to shreds by the press if she left, no matter what he’d done."

LMAO. That's so untrue. Hell Diana is still a saint today because of how Charles treated her during their marriage. Charles and Camilla till this day can't escape it. (They conveniently don't mention Diana's cheating during marriage with married men)

Also Kate's sister had a baby girl last year and named her Rose. She is very close to her sister. If there was any truth to it she would have never done that.

Reason that those rumors are circulating (and keep being brought up) for around four/five years is because fans "stans" of Meghan and Harry are the ones who keep circulating it. They have agreements with each other to trend it on twitter "X" (esp. when Harry and Meghan have negative media they start trending it).

If media had any proof of it in the last five years they would have run with that story just like they did with everybody else's scandals in the royal family. Not even anti monarchy papers like Guardian are reporting it. And believe it that if Guardian had any proof or sources they would be the first to do so.

Toujoursla896 · 06/08/2023 10:38

Iwasafool · 05/08/2023 22:39

Well she wouldn't have stayed young and gorgeous forever.

But at least she would have been alive. Wow Iwasafool are you ok? Have you really read your own comments on this thread about a dead woman, because they are really bitchy and hateful. Why invest so much hate in someone who died so long ago? Does it make you feel better somehow?

Iwantcakeeveryday · 06/08/2023 10:58

This thread has taken a nasty turn. The remarks about a woman who is now dead and the kind of parent she was are really unnecessarily awful. Honestly, it's a parenting site! The idea going away while your children are on holiday with their Dad is somehow a bad thing is wild. Isn't this thread about Kate?

Maireas · 06/08/2023 11:14

@Iwantcakeeveryday - yes, it is possible to criticise the parenting of a woman now dead. There's a whole thread criticising the parenting of the late QE2. Diana's life and behaviour are often discussed, and as long as it's within site guidelines, is fine. Whether we agree with it or not, she continues to fascinate.

LaMarschallin · 06/08/2023 11:16

LimeCheesecake

I do believe some of the William affairs rumours - seems about right for his personality.

What sort of personality is that then?

Morestrangerthings1 · 06/08/2023 11:17

LimeCheesecake · 06/08/2023 08:59

Oh come on, Fergie and Andrew’s split was very fucked up. Going to stay next to where your exH has taken the dcs on holiday is not normal.

(imagine the threads on here - “my exP has booked a cottage in the same village I’m taking the dcs on holiday to, so they can see them every day of our holiday, AIBU to think that’s not ok?” )

😂🤣 very good, Limecheesecake.

smilesy · 06/08/2023 11:20

LaMarschallin · 06/08/2023 11:16

LimeCheesecake

I do believe some of the William affairs rumours - seems about right for his personality.

What sort of personality is that then?

Indeed. My exDH had an affair. And everyone said he was not the type of person who you thought would do that. So that means sweet FA 😂

LaMarschallin · 06/08/2023 11:26

LimeCheesecake

Oh come on, Fergie and Andrew’s split was very fucked up. Going to stay next to where your exH has taken the dcs on holiday is not normal.

You could say it was an amicable split - it seems to have been - and they were trying to do the best for the children.
Unusual certainly, but I'm not sure how fucked up it is.

I presume Andrew would have only posted his putative AIBU on MN if he felt it wasn't okay.

Not many people could do this or have the free time and money to arrange being on holiday near each other but not together and I'm sure most divorced couples wouldn't want to.
However, Beatrice and Eugenie do seem to have good relationships with their parents and each other, as far as one can tell.

BadgerB · 06/08/2023 11:40

Toujoursla896 · Today 10:38
Iwasafool · Yesterday 22:39
Well she wouldn't have stayed young and gorgeous forever.

Toujoursla896 · Today 10:38
But at least she would have been alive. Wow Iwasafool are you ok? Have you really read your own comments on this thread about a dead woman, because they are really bitchy and hateful. Why invest so much hate in someone who died so long ago? Does it make you feel better somehow?

How is it bitchy to say a 60+ year old isn't likely to be "young & gorgeous"? She might well have been a grand and elegant lady, but definitely not young and gorgeous.
And it certainly isn't hate to say so just because she died tragically young.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 06/08/2023 11:44

Fergie and Andrew have stayed living together. Does anyone still believe they ever really split?

Maireas · 06/08/2023 11:45

@BadgerB - it's not bitchy at all. It's a fact of life. I always feel that it's hard for very beautiful famous women to age - a problem not shared with men.
Andy and Fergie - where to start? I've no time for either of them, but their divorce was very amicable, and they've lived together ever since, so they're obviously at least good friends.

upinaballoon · 06/08/2023 11:46

"However, Beatrice and Eugenie do seem to have good relationships with their parents and each other, as far as one can tell."

I believe Mussolini had good relationships with his children, and it seems that Prince Andrew does, too. Do not misunderstand me. I did not say that on balance I think that either man is/was 'a good bloke'.

Well, that's nothing to do with an unusual turn on Kate.

Maireas · 06/08/2023 11:46

Iwantcakeeveryday · 06/08/2023 11:44

Fergie and Andrew have stayed living together. Does anyone still believe they ever really split?

Very good question. They certainly give the appearance of always being a couple. Who knows what went on.

upinaballoon · 06/08/2023 11:57

Does anyone go everywhere with Prince William? No? Well then, how can anyone know whether he had an affair or not.

I know women who have been married happily enough for 50 years. It can't be perfect every day. One's marriage survived an affair, years ago. Another once said that just because one is married that doesn't mean that one isn't attracted to other people. Of course not.

I expect William and Kate both see and meet people who are very attractive to them. I expect that they do what many couples do - stay with their marriage vows.
When A and B and C put out malicious rumours about the marriages of D and E and F I always think it says a lot more about the values and behaviour of A and B and C than it does about D and E and F.

Toujoursla896 · 06/08/2023 11:58

Maireas · 06/08/2023 11:14

@Iwantcakeeveryday - yes, it is possible to criticise the parenting of a woman now dead. There's a whole thread criticising the parenting of the late QE2. Diana's life and behaviour are often discussed, and as long as it's within site guidelines, is fine. Whether we agree with it or not, she continues to fascinate.

Well I think putting Diana down in every way possible and at every opportunity serves a very definite purpose for supporters of Charles and Camilla and monarchists in general.

Gyles Brandreth, was on one of those dreadful morning shows calling Diana “an hysteric” earlier this year and the comment came totally out of the blue and was barely related to the topic of conversation.

So I think there’s an agenda being pushed by some. It’s endlessly fascinating to me that they feel they still have to. Diana, even after death, obviously represents some kind of threat to them.

I hope they treat Katherine well. She wields enormous power now.

upinaballoon · 06/08/2023 12:00

Do you think Catherine is interested in wielding power?

Maireas · 06/08/2023 12:06

I think there's a balance, @Toujoursla896 between always putting someone down and regarding them as a saint. I think the sanctification of Diana hasn't been healthy. She was a complex woman who did much good, but was far from perfect. It's ok to question what she did, as long as it isn't cruel or unnecessary.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 06/08/2023 12:09

Maireas · 06/08/2023 12:06

I think there's a balance, @Toujoursla896 between always putting someone down and regarding them as a saint. I think the sanctification of Diana hasn't been healthy. She was a complex woman who did much good, but was far from perfect. It's ok to question what she did, as long as it isn't cruel or unnecessary.

there are some cruel and unnecessary comments though. criticising a woman for titling her head, going on holiday when her kids were with their father... thats unnecessary. Diana was a hands-on parent when she had custody of them.

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