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The sudden unusual turn on Princess Kate

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Whatt · 29/05/2023 07:56

Today, I wanted to share something thought-provoking that has caught my attention recently - a noticeable change in the way the media portrays Kate Middleton.

Some publications that previously showed favor towards Kate (DM cough, cough) have started publishing stories that present her in a more critical light. It's an interesting shift.

Firstly, there's a story circulating about an encounter between Kate and a convicted murderer at a charity event. Additionally, there's talk of the taxpayer potentially providing support for her family's struggling business. This raises questions about the circumstances surrounding their business venture and the implications it may have for public funds.

What's intriguing is the parallel being drawn between Kate's current media treatment and the scrutiny faced by Meghan Markle in the past. It's worth discussing whether there's a connection or simply a coincidence.

Furthermore, there's some buzz on Twitter suggesting that Kate may have unintentionally upstaged the King during the Chelsea Flower Show. While it may seem like harmless gossip, it's interesting to consider the impact of such events on the monarchy's reputation. Some even speculate that Camilla might have been involved in the leak of these stories, adding an extra layer to the intrigue.

Taking a step back, it's worth pondering whether the monarchy should be concerned about being upstaged in this day and age. Are we witnessing a shift in priorities and expectations?

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GrouchyKiwi · 26/06/2023 22:24

Roussette · 26/06/2023 21:51

I hate press harassment

She took on the job for 3 days a week to enable her to be William's girlfriend

Whatever she did, and press harassment taken into account, please don't let us call it a career

What's wrong with having a job, not a career?

The problem isn't what Meghan, Kate, Camilla etc did or didn't do before marrying into the royal family. The problem is the press (and others) pitting two women against each other.

tigger2022 · 26/06/2023 23:09

Literally every woman associated with a royal man from Sophie onwards has had their career decimated by the press. Literally all of them. Even Cressida and Chelsy really struggled. Everything they did was made so hard, even working for various family firms. Even Meghan had to quit Suits. (Jigsaw was a perfectly respectable graduate job by the way). And then of course the fact that their careers couldn’t take off or kept getting destroyed was then taken as evidence by the very same press that they were ALL a bunch of trad wives and layabouts just waiting to hook a prince and get pregnant. What an extraordinary coincidence. Begging the women on this thread not to go along with this catch 22 😭

Morestrangerthings · 27/06/2023 05:19

I agree Tigger.

And the press is still hell bent on destroying Meghan’s career - even now - after all this time.

Samcro · 27/06/2023 07:21

I thought Meghan left suits because the guy she was married to (in the show) left the programme. her role was as his girlfriend/wife. so her role ended.

alloutofluck · 27/06/2023 08:23

Sophie was involved in a scandal and had to quit her job. She was caught on a hidden camera slagging off various royals and politicians with a fake client. She had been pretty low profile beforehand.
Diana was a nursery assistant and a cleaner to a friend. They were jobs rich women did before getting married in the eighties. Not knocking it, but not a career.
Although Kate's job with jigsaw was decent, she took that job as she was allowed to take time off whenever she wanted to join William.
Sarah Ferguson worked after her divorce as she had a very paltry settlement and had to. The royal family and the media criticised her for her work.

alloutofluck · 27/06/2023 08:25

Aaron Korsh revealed to Radio 4 in 2017 he had actually begun writing her character out after she began a relationship with Prince Harry. He stated, “I sort of had a decision to make because I didn’t want to intrude and ask her, ‘Hey, what’s going on? What are you going to do?’"

tigger2022 · 27/06/2023 08:53

Morestrangerthings · 27/06/2023 05:19

I agree Tigger.

And the press is still hell bent on destroying Meghan’s career - even now - after all this time.

They make it impossible for them to have any kind of normal career and then criticise them for failing. The difference with Meghan and arguably also Sophie was that they were older than the others when they started dating princes (although Sophie was still only in her late 20s and married in her early 30s) so they had more time to build their careers.

Samcro · 27/06/2023 09:37

alloutofluck · 27/06/2023 08:25

Aaron Korsh revealed to Radio 4 in 2017 he had actually begun writing her character out after she began a relationship with Prince Harry. He stated, “I sort of had a decision to make because I didn’t want to intrude and ask her, ‘Hey, what’s going on? What are you going to do?’"

thats interesting, I always thought she left because the actor who played her husband wanted to leave.

Morestrangerthings · 27/06/2023 09:47

I just received a notification that a poster had quoted one of my posts, on this thread, 48 minutes ago. In fact, they quoted me 2 weeks ago.

It’s happened to me before. Does this happen to anyone else? Ta

Roussette · 27/06/2023 09:57

Morestrangerthings · 27/06/2023 09:47

I just received a notification that a poster had quoted one of my posts, on this thread, 48 minutes ago. In fact, they quoted me 2 weeks ago.

It’s happened to me before. Does this happen to anyone else? Ta

You can turn notifications off or on in settings. So if someone quotes your post or @'s you, you can know about it if you want!

yipeeyiyay · 27/06/2023 09:57

@tigger2022 Kate has an MA in Art History from St Andrews. She worked at Jigsaw, she worked as an art curator, and she worked for her parents’ business.

She was not an art curator. Jigsaw was a job given to her by a family friend to try to give her legitimacy as people were commenting that she was lazy. Even the Queen apparently. It wasn't a real job but was a 3 days a week gig that allowed her to follow William around. She took long holidays and was rarely at work. This is the same story with her 'job' at her family business. Let's call it as it was. She was a professional girlfriend.

tigger2022 · 27/06/2023 10:08

Roussette · 27/06/2023 09:57

You can turn notifications off or on in settings. So if someone quotes your post or @'s you, you can know about it if you want!

There’s a weird phenomenon in my notifications where if I have no unreads then it shows a completely random @ so maybe it’s that?

Serenster · 27/06/2023 10:16

thats interesting, I always thought she left because the actor who played her husband wanted to leave.

The actor who played her boyfriend wanted to leave at the end of series 7 and so they conveniently wrapped it up with them getting married and moving away at the end of the season. The show then had an 8th season without either of them. But had Meghan wanted to stay on for season 8 I can’t imagine she’d have been fired just because her co-star wanted to leave. They would have just “broken up” on the show

CathyorClaire · 27/06/2023 10:21

Jigsaw was a perfectly respectable graduate job by the way

And all you had to do to get it was ask to work there.

JenniferBarkley · 27/06/2023 10:24

I've only seen some of the first season of Suits, but Meghan's character was one of the main characters from the off. If she wanted to stay, she certainly wouldn't have been dependent on another male character staying.

I feel bad for Kate with the career thing. Who knows what her life would have looked like if she hadn't met William, but she did. She clearly left university knowing they would get married and that her life would be far from ordinary (and far from free or unrestricted). I get that to a certain extent, I've been with DH since the very start of uni and while we didn't get married until just shy of 30, we knew on graduation that this was it and made plans around each other. The smaller she kept her circle, the safer she would be - and in that respect it's been worth it. No controversies from that time, no one selling stories to the press, no professional relationships with people who could have been damaging to her reputation.

It's not the life I would have chosen, but I suspect she chose it carefully with her eyes wide open.

Besides, in those circles, do girls with Art History degrees typically go on to have big careers? Do they not tend to work for a few years and then marry, raise children and volunteer? (It's another world to me, but that's my impression.)

CathyorClaire · 27/06/2023 10:24

She was not an art curator. Jigsaw was a job given to her by a family friend to try to give her legitimacy as people were commenting that she was lazy. Even the Queen apparently. It wasn't a real job but was a 3 days a week gig that allowed her to follow William around. She took long holidays and was rarely at work. This is the same story with her 'job' at her family business. Let's call it as it was. She was a professional girlfriend.

Exactly.

tigger2022 · 27/06/2023 10:24

CathyorClaire · 27/06/2023 10:21

Jigsaw was a perfectly respectable graduate job by the way

And all you had to do to get it was ask to work there.

Yeah that’s how jobs work, you don’t just randomly turn up in an office one day

tigger2022 · 27/06/2023 10:28

JenniferBarkley · 27/06/2023 10:24

I've only seen some of the first season of Suits, but Meghan's character was one of the main characters from the off. If she wanted to stay, she certainly wouldn't have been dependent on another male character staying.

I feel bad for Kate with the career thing. Who knows what her life would have looked like if she hadn't met William, but she did. She clearly left university knowing they would get married and that her life would be far from ordinary (and far from free or unrestricted). I get that to a certain extent, I've been with DH since the very start of uni and while we didn't get married until just shy of 30, we knew on graduation that this was it and made plans around each other. The smaller she kept her circle, the safer she would be - and in that respect it's been worth it. No controversies from that time, no one selling stories to the press, no professional relationships with people who could have been damaging to her reputation.

It's not the life I would have chosen, but I suspect she chose it carefully with her eyes wide open.

Besides, in those circles, do girls with Art History degrees typically go on to have big careers? Do they not tend to work for a few years and then marry, raise children and volunteer? (It's another world to me, but that's my impression.)

Yeah the press basically either destroys a woman’s growing career or prevents it from ever starting, then revels in their failure and gloats about them being a supposedly “lazy housewife”. It’s depressing how many people don’t see that for what it is, but I’m trying to ignore all the sexist comments.

CathyorClaire · 27/06/2023 10:28

Yeah that’s how jobs work, you don’t just randomly turn up in an office one day

And yet most people go through a recruitment process. I wonder how many other graduates get a job exactly tailored to their requirements on a nod and a wink.

Serenster · 27/06/2023 10:30

CathyorClaire · 27/06/2023 10:28

Yeah that’s how jobs work, you don’t just randomly turn up in an office one day

And yet most people go through a recruitment process. I wonder how many other graduates get a job exactly tailored to their requirements on a nod and a wink.

Oh my god - in the City, in the entertainment and fashion industries? In journalism? So many!

JenniferBarkley · 27/06/2023 10:31

CathyorClaire · 27/06/2023 10:28

Yeah that’s how jobs work, you don’t just randomly turn up in an office one day

And yet most people go through a recruitment process. I wonder how many other graduates get a job exactly tailored to their requirements on a nod and a wink.

Have you ever worked for a family business? <shudder>

tigger2022 · 27/06/2023 10:32

JenniferBarkley · 27/06/2023 10:31

Have you ever worked for a family business? <shudder>

Genuinely worst thing that ever happened to me in my entire life was working for a family business

tigger2022 · 27/06/2023 10:32

When it’s someone else’s family I mean!

Chocolateship · 27/06/2023 10:33

The real issue is that in general the press is abhorrent, however the royals and M&H rely on the press. The former to keep themselves relevant, and the latter to make their money by also keeping themselves relevant. Both want to be able to control the narrative put forward about them (but ultimately still have a presence in the press just want to be able to decide how they're portrayed), one is more successful than the other.

JenniferBarkley · 27/06/2023 10:35

tigger2022 · 27/06/2023 10:32

Genuinely worst thing that ever happened to me in my entire life was working for a family business

Yup!

There's a couple of family businesses on DH's side. I've made a few pointed comments over the years that I'm the only one of them who's ever worked for a (different, obviously) family business without actually being in the family. Would not recommend.

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