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To be upset Prince Harry has made Diana all about her death?

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polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 19:25

Diana was a wonderful person in many ways. She had her faults like everyone, but mostly due to her dysfunctional childhood.

However she was a loving mother, a fearless campaigner for HIV and the other charities. A humanitarian who campaigned against land mines. None of these were glamorous, but she did it anyway.

She helped bring the monarchy into the 20 century. She was kind, warm and relatable as a person. She should be remembered as such.

Harry however has made it all about her horrendous death in a Paris tunnel. Endlessly merching the memory of her traumatic death, making it all about him and not his brothers pain, rehashing her death in his book, and now this latest stunt, which was likely designed to get his free security reinstated. If he knew what honour was he would be ashamed, but he won't be. All Diana is now is a mortally injured woman in a tunnel.

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Susieb2023 · 19/05/2023 19:55

It is possible for two very different people, with very different personalities and characteristics to process trauma in very different ways.

One isn’t better than the other because some posters on mumsnet deem that processing more palatable to them!

minou123 · 19/05/2023 19:55

LeekPeachPlum · 19/05/2023 19:48

I was a similar age to Harry when I lost my mother in tragic circumstances. Sadly, her death is more a part of me than her life was. I was so affected by the trauma of her death, I didn't get the chance to know her alive. She was an amazing woman but I only knew her as the mum I lost. I am not sure if that makes sense but it might be the same for Harry - the pain of losing his mother may be much more prominent than the memory of who she was.

I'm.so sorry about yiur mum.

It makes perfect sense, something @polkadotdalmation cant or wont fathom. For some reason polkadirdalmation has decided how someone should remember their mum.

Rockybooboo · 19/05/2023 19:55

@polkadotdalmation have you lost a parent in tragic circumstances? I was a lot older than Harry but still a teenager when i found my dad dead in his mid 40s. It took a lot of time tp get that image out of my head. He was my beloved dad but thats all i could think off.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 19/05/2023 19:55

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 19:53

I just find making money out of your dead mother distasteful and to me that is far more unhinged than I am.

I agree with you. He's also made it seem like he was the only son affected by it, many people seem to forget William lost his mum too.

foundmykey · 19/05/2023 19:57

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Jourdain11 · 19/05/2023 19:57

I think OP is something that begins up a tree and almost rhymes with Royal...

Ardiaei · 19/05/2023 19:58

What is really tragic is that she most likely would have lived had she been wearing a seatbelt. The only survivor was wearing one. An incredibly painful thing to contend with. Yes we should remember her for the great things she did.

But also perhaps this is a reminder of the importance of seatbelts. Over a third of road fatalities still involve someone not wearing one. Although I imagine everyone on MN does wear one so probably not the right audience.

behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas · 19/05/2023 19:59

LeekPeachPlum · 19/05/2023 19:48

I was a similar age to Harry when I lost my mother in tragic circumstances. Sadly, her death is more a part of me than her life was. I was so affected by the trauma of her death, I didn't get the chance to know her alive. She was an amazing woman but I only knew her as the mum I lost. I am not sure if that makes sense but it might be the same for Harry - the pain of losing his mother may be much more prominent than the memory of who she was.

I'm sorry for your loss. I think this might be the same for Harry. He says he doesn't remember her much except as this amazing golden ray of warmth, but most of his memories are clouded over by trauma, and memories of her death are mostly what he has now. I can imagine he is still full of grief and anger about it, especially the way he was treated growing up and how he and Meghan are being treated now.

This is a completely heartless thread.

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 20:00

No one, least of all me would deny Harry the right to grieve as he feels fit, but to talk endlessly about it and make money from it, is unpleasant. He has plenty of therapists he can talk to. He doesn't need to go on and on about her death. Perhaps if he did celebrate her life, it would have a positive effect on his MH?

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PinkRobotDuck · 19/05/2023 20:02

Yes, I think you have a point OP.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 19/05/2023 20:02

The tragedy is that he was so young when she died and he does not have many abiding firsthand memories of her. He has said as much. He does recall the circumstances around her death vividly though. If there were earlier memories they may have been obliterated by the shock.

I think Harry himself would prefer to have more rewarding memories of fun Diana and of her being involved in good works.

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 20:03

Oh well, clearly people don't think it's wrong to monetise your mothers death. I must be the one with the odd moral compass.

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minou123 · 19/05/2023 20:03

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 20:00

No one, least of all me would deny Harry the right to grieve as he feels fit, but to talk endlessly about it and make money from it, is unpleasant. He has plenty of therapists he can talk to. He doesn't need to go on and on about her death. Perhaps if he did celebrate her life, it would have a positive effect on his MH?

Prince William also regularly talks about the impact Diana's death had on him.

Just google "Prince William" and "Diana" and rhere are countless articles where William has- in your words- " gone on and on" about her death.

Look, I've started you off https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/culture/a39963754/prince-william-speech-grief-manchester-bombing-princess-diana/

Who are you to tell 2 sons how they speak about thier mother.?

Prince William Delivers Emotional Speech About Suffering From Grief During Manchester Visit

'There is comfort in remembering’

https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/culture/a39963754/prince-william-speech-grief-manchester-bombing-princess-diana

cakeorwine · 19/05/2023 20:04

00100001 · 19/05/2023 19:52

William wasn't much older.

Everyone seems to forget he lost his mother at just 15 and was 'made' to walk behind her coffin in full view of the public.

True - I wonder how much it affected him and how he handled it.

handydandynotebook · 19/05/2023 20:04

Jourdain11 · 19/05/2023 19:57

I think OP is something that begins up a tree and almost rhymes with Royal...

What? A leaf?

Rockybooboo · 19/05/2023 20:04

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 20:00

No one, least of all me would deny Harry the right to grieve as he feels fit, but to talk endlessly about it and make money from it, is unpleasant. He has plenty of therapists he can talk to. He doesn't need to go on and on about her death. Perhaps if he did celebrate her life, it would have a positive effect on his MH?

What if it helps other kids who have lost parents. Its not all about what you @polkadotdalmation so ma6be stop being so self absorbed

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 20:05

PinkRobotDuck · 19/05/2023 20:02

Yes, I think you have a point OP.

Thank you. My point is..what do you think of when you hear the name Diana now?

All I see is that hideous mock up of the mangled car in the mocked up Paris tunnel.

I have to really think hard to see photos of her holding hands with an emancipated aids patient, or walking though a cleared minefield.

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handydandynotebook · 19/05/2023 20:06

It's not Harry's place to talk about Williams grief in much detail is it.

handydandynotebook · 19/05/2023 20:06

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 20:05

Thank you. My point is..what do you think of when you hear the name Diana now?

All I see is that hideous mock up of the mangled car in the mocked up Paris tunnel.

I have to really think hard to see photos of her holding hands with an emancipated aids patient, or walking though a cleared minefield.

That's you though. That's not Harry's fault

Namechanger1002 · 19/05/2023 20:07

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We've taken this down as it veered into personal attack, but feel free to post again without that bit.

BriarHare · 19/05/2023 20:07

No one gives a shit. I’m pretty sure she’d be a z-lister had she not snuffed it.

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/05/2023 20:08

00100001 · 19/05/2023 19:52

William wasn't much older.

Everyone seems to forget he lost his mother at just 15 and was 'made' to walk behind her coffin in full view of the public.

They were both made to walk behind the coffin. Different people have different ways of dealing with these things.

IJustHadToLookHavingReadTheBook · 19/05/2023 20:09

LeekPeachPlum · 19/05/2023 19:48

I was a similar age to Harry when I lost my mother in tragic circumstances. Sadly, her death is more a part of me than her life was. I was so affected by the trauma of her death, I didn't get the chance to know her alive. She was an amazing woman but I only knew her as the mum I lost. I am not sure if that makes sense but it might be the same for Harry - the pain of losing his mother may be much more prominent than the memory of who she was.

This. I- thank God- didn't lose my mother as a child and I'm no psychologist but it's quite clear to me that for Harry his mother's death far overshadowed her life with him. He even says that he blocked out all memories of her; it completely makes sense that her death would have blanked out everything else.

She was his mother, not yours. You don't get to decide what he feels and talks about.

minou123 · 19/05/2023 20:09

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 20:05

Thank you. My point is..what do you think of when you hear the name Diana now?

All I see is that hideous mock up of the mangled car in the mocked up Paris tunnel.

I have to really think hard to see photos of her holding hands with an emancipated aids patient, or walking though a cleared minefield.

Thats a you problem.

It's not hard to find videos and photos of her holding hands with an emancipated aids patient, or walking though a cleared minefield.

Again, all you need to do is go on Google, or YouTube or even Tiktok and type in the words "Diana" and "aids" or "mines".
Thousands upon thousands of videos and pictures will come up for you.

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 20:11

@handydandynotebook But it is. He has done nothing for the past 3 years except talk publicly about her death. He won't let her rest. He is monetising her memory. He has made millions from it. And now in NYC he's attempting to tell the world he is another Diana terrorised by paparazzi, when it's clear it's just a stunt.

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