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To be upset Prince Harry has made Diana all about her death?

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polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 19:25

Diana was a wonderful person in many ways. She had her faults like everyone, but mostly due to her dysfunctional childhood.

However she was a loving mother, a fearless campaigner for HIV and the other charities. A humanitarian who campaigned against land mines. None of these were glamorous, but she did it anyway.

She helped bring the monarchy into the 20 century. She was kind, warm and relatable as a person. She should be remembered as such.

Harry however has made it all about her horrendous death in a Paris tunnel. Endlessly merching the memory of her traumatic death, making it all about him and not his brothers pain, rehashing her death in his book, and now this latest stunt, which was likely designed to get his free security reinstated. If he knew what honour was he would be ashamed, but he won't be. All Diana is now is a mortally injured woman in a tunnel.

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Haywirecity · 20/05/2023 19:31

keffie12 · 20/05/2023 16:54

H and M do plenty with their life. The philanthropy and service they do you don't hear about in full is ongoing

If no one hears about it, how do you know about it? 🤔 Share with us. I like and appreciate work for charity.

keffie12 · 20/05/2023 20:33

Haywirecity · 20/05/2023 19:31

If no one hears about it, how do you know about it? 🤔 Share with us. I like and appreciate work for charity.

There are 100s of links about it on Google. The main 1 for H is Invictus. M has been involved with various different causes and charities since she was a young girl.

They don't broadcast what they do. I happen to know cos I follow them to some extent. Here is one link to give you a flavour.

You can research more on Google. Oh, and their main charity is, of course, Archiewell set up after archie was born, which had raised $13 million since it was set up

www.google.com/amp/s/www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-charity-work-through-the-years/amp/

Haywirecity · 20/05/2023 21:30

keffie12 · 20/05/2023 20:33

There are 100s of links about it on Google. The main 1 for H is Invictus. M has been involved with various different causes and charities since she was a young girl.

They don't broadcast what they do. I happen to know cos I follow them to some extent. Here is one link to give you a flavour.

You can research more on Google. Oh, and their main charity is, of course, Archiewell set up after archie was born, which had raised $13 million since it was set up

www.google.com/amp/s/www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-charity-work-through-the-years/amp/

Invictus Games and Sentabale. I'm going to put these together because they're similar in a way. Harry founded the former and he co-founded the latter with Prince Seeiso of Lesotho. Both have done terrific work and Harry remains attached to them both as the public face. But trustees run the Invuctus Games and Prince Seeiso was alwats the real driving force behind Sentabale but harnessed Harry's name for publicity, and is, and always has been, involved in overseeing it

Harry has done great things with both these charities and I'm not lessening his achievements at all. It's just that neither really take that much of his time anymore other than at special events.

Your article

7 charities benefited from their wedding. It doesn't say how - maybe donations?

One Young World - hmm. The charity is under investigation by the charity commission. However, that doesn't reflect on Meghan at all. She has done nothing wrong. She gave a keynote speech here along with some other people. They do get paid for doing that, though.

One Vision - I believe she made a visit before she met Harry.

Walker Family Events Foundation - it's a veteran charity in California. I believe Harry visited one day and packed and delivered food.

Archewell - it's a public charity they set up. It's taken $13m in donations and paid out $5m in donations. I've enjoyed seeing what they've donated to. There have been some really good causes and them donating has brought good publicity and hopefully has inspired others to donate. But sending out money isn't really that time consuming, is it?

I'm not saying they havent visited a charity here and there, nor given donations. But I don't really see that their days are full of good works, philanthropy and service. Maybe, as you say, they're just flying well under the radar, just doing the odd press release about their feelings on a matter or what they've donated to. But as you follow them so closely, what do they actually DO?
(For clarity, I'm strongly of the opinion that they are private citizens and don't have to do anything. They'd get no criticism from me. But if you're saying they are doing plenty of charitable work, what exactly is it - leaving donations aside because, as I say, writing cheques isn't really work.)

behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas · 20/05/2023 22:25

Well they don't have to DO anything every day, they're millionaires. They don't need to do a 9-5.

Haywirecity · 20/05/2023 22:29

behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas · 20/05/2023 22:25

Well they don't have to DO anything every day, they're millionaires. They don't need to do a 9-5.

I just said that. 🙄

Novella4 · 21/05/2023 11:03

TeaIsRisen · 20/05/2023 10:56

It's pretty obvious that William's team leaked stories about William.

First, all the royals leak on each other all the time. I bet Harry's team have leaked too, they're all at it and they always have been. It's just how the Firm works.

Second, tons of private conversations and other private info about Harry and Meghan got into the press, including private conversations between her and Kate. Clearly people on the inside are leaking.

Third, the leaks came to a complete halt when Harry and Meghan left, Harry can now suddenly pop up in London without anyone having the slightest idea that he's in the country, the press didn't know his plans for the Coronation ahead of time, which proves that whoever was leaking his movements to the press no longer has access to him.

Fourth, William's insanely extravagant rewards given to Jason Knauf (making Jason CEO of the entire Cambridge Foundation with no experience, giving him all kinds of fancy honours and gongs) when Jason at the very least fucked up his job (he was Thomas Markle's press handler which was clearly fucked up, he hired his best friend to be Meghan's PA when she was a nanny with no PA experience and she wound up fired for gross misconduct) and multiple journalists are on the record as saying Jason was feeding them negative stories about Meghan, plus the email that was accidentally sent to Meghan's lawyers showed he was actively working against her. Why would William shower such extraordinary lavish rewards on someone who at best was terrible at his job and not trustworthy, unless he was acting under William's instructions the entire time?

And fifth, multiple journalists are on the record (one even went on national TV and said this) as saying that most of the leaks and negative stories about Meghan came from Kensington Palace.

Great post

MamoruHisaishi · 21/05/2023 14:39

Ahh yes the terrible Jason knauf, who was so terrible at his job because he was the one who raised the issue of bullying from Meghan and harry, and who told the truth in a legal case versus doing an omid scobie who was willing to commit perjury for Meghan. That Jason knauf. Some would say he has more integrity than the Sussex duo, but of course their fans won't see it that way. They would rather he lie or not say a word against the couple even if he had valid concerns about them.

tigger2022 · 21/05/2023 14:43

MamoruHisaishi · 21/05/2023 14:39

Ahh yes the terrible Jason knauf, who was so terrible at his job because he was the one who raised the issue of bullying from Meghan and harry, and who told the truth in a legal case versus doing an omid scobie who was willing to commit perjury for Meghan. That Jason knauf. Some would say he has more integrity than the Sussex duo, but of course their fans won't see it that way. They would rather he lie or not say a word against the couple even if he had valid concerns about them.

I also think he can’t defend himself and he’s not a public figure

doyouwanticewiththat · 22/05/2023 00:44

Is this thread for real ?
Is merching even a word ?

Haywirecity · 22/05/2023 01:40

doyouwanticewiththat · 22/05/2023 00:44

Is this thread for real ?
Is merching even a word ?

Verb
Editmerch (third-person singular simple present merches, present participle merching, simple past and past participle merched)

  • (slang, rare) To merchandise. quotations â–²1995, SPIN, volume 11, number 1, page 10:Maligned by rockers, misunderstood by critics, and merched by Madison Avenue, rave may be the only vital youth culture remaining.

merches - Wiktionary

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/merches#English

LBFseBrom · 22/05/2023 03:29

Wiki (couldn't resist):
Merching is a municipality in the district of Aichach-Friedberg in Bavaria in Germany. Merching. Municipality. Saint Martin Church. Coat of arms of Merching.

LBFseBrom · 22/05/2023 03:39

Comment from Tigger re Jason Knauf: I also think he can’t defend himself and he’s not a public figure.

That's true of course but why on earth do staff and ex staff open their mouths anyway? I would have thought confidentiality would be a condition of employment and if you're not happy in your job, you look for something else. Knauf had much experience and held a responsible position but who can respect someone who collaborates with the Daily Mail? In any case neither Meghan nor Harry mentioned him and he has recently been honoured by the King! It all seems a rum do to me.

Haywirecity · 22/05/2023 04:08

I would have thought confidentiality would be a condition of employment and if you're not happy in your job, you look for something else. Knauf had much experience and held a responsible position but who can respect someone who collaborates with the Daily Mail?

Non-disclosure orders don't protect against criminality. Say you hear during your duties that your boss is insider trading, you're not breaking the NDO to report it to the police because the NDO not a shield to protect the wrongdoer.

Knauf was approached by the Mail to give evidence in the case and he declined to do so. However, once Meghan lied in court, then Knauf, just like everyone, has a duty to correct that information. He didn't give evidence on behalf of the Mail. He got himself his own legal representation and the evidence was presented independently to the court by his barrister not ny the Mail's legal team.

You ask who can respect someone who can collaborate with the Mail. As I say, he didnt, but the more pertinent question is who can respect someone who knows false evidence, or a lie, has been presented in court as truth, and does nothing to correct it?

kirinm · 22/05/2023 09:35

Outofthepark · 19/05/2023 19:53

OP you're just a very spiteful person, with an unhealthy fixation on Harry and Meghan. That's all this thread communicates.

This.

OP you couldn't give a shit about anything other than finding something to blame Harry for.

kirinm · 22/05/2023 09:54

Would be keen to see all the pro-Diana threads the OP has started.

Dreamstate · 22/05/2023 10:07

TeaIsRisen · 20/05/2023 10:56

It's pretty obvious that William's team leaked stories about William.

First, all the royals leak on each other all the time. I bet Harry's team have leaked too, they're all at it and they always have been. It's just how the Firm works.

Second, tons of private conversations and other private info about Harry and Meghan got into the press, including private conversations between her and Kate. Clearly people on the inside are leaking.

Third, the leaks came to a complete halt when Harry and Meghan left, Harry can now suddenly pop up in London without anyone having the slightest idea that he's in the country, the press didn't know his plans for the Coronation ahead of time, which proves that whoever was leaking his movements to the press no longer has access to him.

Fourth, William's insanely extravagant rewards given to Jason Knauf (making Jason CEO of the entire Cambridge Foundation with no experience, giving him all kinds of fancy honours and gongs) when Jason at the very least fucked up his job (he was Thomas Markle's press handler which was clearly fucked up, he hired his best friend to be Meghan's PA when she was a nanny with no PA experience and she wound up fired for gross misconduct) and multiple journalists are on the record as saying Jason was feeding them negative stories about Meghan, plus the email that was accidentally sent to Meghan's lawyers showed he was actively working against her. Why would William shower such extraordinary lavish rewards on someone who at best was terrible at his job and not trustworthy, unless he was acting under William's instructions the entire time?

And fifth, multiple journalists are on the record (one even went on national TV and said this) as saying that most of the leaks and negative stories about Meghan came from Kensington Palace.

This is so appalling. No wonder they wanted out. Wasn't Harry quoted saying he and William had a pact that their press offices would not do this - not be like it had been with his father and mother. No wonder he was angry if William broke the pact.

If you love your brother why would you do that to him.

Roundandnour · 22/05/2023 11:29

Apparently there’s lots of pacts within the Royals. There’s the brothers pact. There’s a pact invoking William and Rebecca/the news of the world. There’s a pact between William and Charles to never be alone with Harry due to him speaking out.

It wouldn’t really surprise me if Rebecca/
news of the world had a pact with William. This is the same person/newspaper that was involved in hacking Millie’s Dowlers phone.

Dreamstate · 22/05/2023 14:06

Roundandnour · 22/05/2023 11:29

Apparently there’s lots of pacts within the Royals. There’s the brothers pact. There’s a pact invoking William and Rebecca/the news of the world. There’s a pact between William and Charles to never be alone with Harry due to him speaking out.

It wouldn’t really surprise me if Rebecca/
news of the world had a pact with William. This is the same person/newspaper that was involved in hacking Millie’s Dowlers phone.

The point being though if you make a pact ergo a promise and you break it you can hardly be surprised if the other person is pissed off and i t damages your relationship with them

Haywirecity · 23/05/2023 00:57

Wasn't Harry quoted saying he and William had a pact that their press offices would not do this -

Harry does say that he misremembers quite a bit. Can we be sure that William was even in the room when Harry made that pact?
Didn't Harry accuse Victoria Beckham of leaking stories on him. And in the end David Beckham had to all but punch him to get him to shut up about it? Turned out it was nothing to do with Posh.

Rockybooboo · 23/05/2023 06:01

Haywirecity · 23/05/2023 00:57

Wasn't Harry quoted saying he and William had a pact that their press offices would not do this -

Harry does say that he misremembers quite a bit. Can we be sure that William was even in the room when Harry made that pact?
Didn't Harry accuse Victoria Beckham of leaking stories on him. And in the end David Beckham had to all but punch him to get him to shut up about it? Turned out it was nothing to do with Posh.

Where did you hear that?

tigger2022 · 23/05/2023 07:19

I feel a bit sorry for Happy… the fact stories get leaked from somewhere and not knowing would make anyone paranoid

AnAngelAtMyTableWithMe · 23/05/2023 07:19

Novella4 · 21/05/2023 11:03

Great post

yes excellent post bang on

tigger2022 · 23/05/2023 07:19

*Harry… most inappropriate typo ever 😂

AnAngelAtMyTableWithMe · 23/05/2023 07:22

this post is so mean, honestly the whole world has gone on about her death and continued the persecution I mean its his mum, why do any of us get a say in how he deals with it or how he remembers her the ownership of Diana from media and the public is so inappropriate and creepy, just leave him alone already

Haywirecity · 23/05/2023 09:42

Rockybooboo · 23/05/2023 06:01

Where did you hear that?

It was in the papers. Google it if you're interested..

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