Page 10 | To be upset Prince Harry has made Diana all about her death?

polkadotdalmation · 2023-05-19T18:25:13+00:00

Diana was a wonderful person in many ways. She had her faults like everyone, but mostly due to her dysfunctional childhood. However she was a loving mother, a fearless campaigner for HIV and the other charities. A humanitarian who campaigned against land mines. None of these were glamorous, but she did it anyway. She helped bring the monarchy into the 20 century. She was kind, warm and relatable as a person. She should be remembered as such. Harry however has made it all about her horrendous death in a Paris tunnel. Endlessly merching the memory of her traumatic death, making it all about him and not his brothers pain, rehashing her death in his book, and now this latest stunt, which was likely designed to get his free security reinstated. If he knew what honour was he would be ashamed, but he won't be. All Diana is now is a mortally injured woman in a tunnel.

behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas · 20/05/2023 11:40

TimesRwo · 20/05/2023 00:17

Oh, what’s the story about his signature? I’ve missed this completely.

So pleased about this thread. Read it when it was first posted and I fully expected the usual hatred towards H&M would result in posts agreeing with OP. At least there is some common sense when it comes to the nonsense people post.

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In his book H said that there was a press release purportedly from both brothers denying that W was trying to push M out of the family. However H says he was shocked because he never agreed to or put his name to that release. This was straight after W shouted at him when they were trying to negotiate their departure, I believe.

behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas · 20/05/2023 11:42

BeatrixKidd · 20/05/2023 11:05

My mum wasn't famous at all but she was murdered (was in a longterm DV relationship that escalated after she ended the relationship) and I've written an award-winning stage play about her murder, and now have a publishing deal to write a book about my experience of coping with grief.

I don't consider that I am "merching" my mother's death but feel free to judge me, OP.

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Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry to hear that. People are allowed to write their life stories and our parents (or lack of) are intrinsic to our life stories x

Rockybooboo · 20/05/2023 11:45

BeatrixKidd · 20/05/2023 11:05

My mum wasn't famous at all but she was murdered (was in a longterm DV relationship that escalated after she ended the relationship) and I've written an award-winning stage play about her murder, and now have a publishing deal to write a book about my experience of coping with grief.

I don't consider that I am "merching" my mother's death but feel free to judge me, OP.

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I'm sorry to hear that and well done for writing a book as it will help raise awareness. Lots of families of murder victims write books about what happened to them including Holly Wells, Millie Fowler and Jamie Bulger's parents.

behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas · 20/05/2023 11:46

TeaIsRisen · 20/05/2023 10:56

It's pretty obvious that William's team leaked stories about William.

First, all the royals leak on each other all the time. I bet Harry's team have leaked too, they're all at it and they always have been. It's just how the Firm works.

Second, tons of private conversations and other private info about Harry and Meghan got into the press, including private conversations between her and Kate. Clearly people on the inside are leaking.

Third, the leaks came to a complete halt when Harry and Meghan left, Harry can now suddenly pop up in London without anyone having the slightest idea that he's in the country, the press didn't know his plans for the Coronation ahead of time, which proves that whoever was leaking his movements to the press no longer has access to him.

Fourth, William's insanely extravagant rewards given to Jason Knauf (making Jason CEO of the entire Cambridge Foundation with no experience, giving him all kinds of fancy honours and gongs) when Jason at the very least fucked up his job (he was Thomas Markle's press handler which was clearly fucked up, he hired his best friend to be Meghan's PA when she was a nanny with no PA experience and she wound up fired for gross misconduct) and multiple journalists are on the record as saying Jason was feeding them negative stories about Meghan, plus the email that was accidentally sent to Meghan's lawyers showed he was actively working against her. Why would William shower such extraordinary lavish rewards on someone who at best was terrible at his job and not trustworthy, unless he was acting under William's instructions the entire time?

And fifth, multiple journalists are on the record (one even went on national TV and said this) as saying that most of the leaks and negative stories about Meghan came from Kensington Palace.

This. The brothers were painted as "good prince vs bad prince" but I really don't think W is the good prince.

he hired his best friend to be Meghan's PA when she was a nanny with no PA experience and she wound up fired for gross misconduct)

What happened here? Didn't know about this

unbelieveable22 · 20/05/2023 11:49

BeatrixKidd · 20/05/2023 11:05

My mum wasn't famous at all but she was murdered (was in a longterm DV relationship that escalated after she ended the relationship) and I've written an award-winning stage play about her murder, and now have a publishing deal to write a book about my experience of coping with grief.

I don't consider that I am "merching" my mother's death but feel free to judge me, OP.

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I am genuinely sorry for all you've been through @BeatrixKidd and the loss of your mother. Walk a mile in your shoes.💐 I am glad you have found an outlet for your grief and anyone with decent morals would never judge you. You do what you have to do as do us all .
Your experience highlights why people should be very careful in their glee to rip others apart especially on a public forum. They have no idea who is reading or how their words could affect others. For some the thrill of starting another nasty thread or replying with yet another nasty post is all that matters. Anyone with a comment that contradicts them is accused of trolling.
I wish you the very best and would love to read your book. I get the impression from your few words here that it will be inspirational and motivational as well as heartbreaking. Much ❤️

skullbabe · 20/05/2023 12:06

BeatrixKidd · 20/05/2023 11:05

My mum wasn't famous at all but she was murdered (was in a longterm DV relationship that escalated after she ended the relationship) and I've written an award-winning stage play about her murder, and now have a publishing deal to write a book about my experience of coping with grief.

I don't consider that I am "merching" my mother's death but feel free to judge me, OP.

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I’m so sorry to hear about your Mum - best of luck with the book.

Iyiyiiii · 20/05/2023 12:09

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behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas · 20/05/2023 12:18

Really OP, do you genuinely believe that Harry - a man who can't even sneeze without it being on every newspaper front page - would HIRE 12 cars blacked out cars with illegally covered up licence plates, hire 12 drivers, pay them to drive illegally and dangerously around a major city, in full view of police officers, purely as a publicity stunt? If Harry was responsible (and such a thing would get out) he'd risk going to prison.

Yes! People seriously lack critical thinking skills. How can two people, without the protection of a whole Palace industry working behind them, arrange a thing like this? 😂

x2boys · 20/05/2023 14:16

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 20:20

@Mummyoflittledragon Everyone, me included has a lot of sympathy for what Harry and William went through. It's every parent's nightmare to both lose a child, or die and leave that child.

No matter what, I wouldn't be monetising it!

Some hideous pay per view 'therapy' session, talking about her death. pay per view. Seriously? You're saying this is right?

You have absolutely zero sympathy for you and a,few other posters,are absolutely vicious about him.on every single thread

x2boys · 20/05/2023 14:16

For him*

Theunamedcat · 20/05/2023 14:24

I feel making it all about her death diminishes her life she was more than that but lately it all seems to be about the paps her death the conspiracy etc etc

He could do more with his life

Rockybooboo · 20/05/2023 14:35

Theunamedcat · 20/05/2023 14:24

I feel making it all about her death diminishes her life she was more than that but lately it all seems to be about the paps her death the conspiracy etc etc

He could do more with his life

Thats your feeling. A lot of people still remember her life but she died in tragic circumstances. Stephen Lawrence, Baby P, Milly Dowler all died in tragic circumstances, should their deaths not be talked about because it diminishes their lives? You dont have to read or listen to any of it if its affecting you.

I would argue getting married, having kids, being in the army is doing more with his life, what is he not doing that you think he should be? Im sitting in the pub which you could say was a waste of my life if you a nosy sod.

Haywirecity · 20/05/2023 14:42

Rockybooboo · 20/05/2023 09:57

No it's not a situation. Charles married a woman he didn't love and that's had huge negative affect on lots of people. If he's had the courage to say no then no it would have saved a lot of heartache. He wanted to be King though.

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That's why we have divorce because people marry people with good intent and it doesn't work out. People who were around Charles and Diana at the time of the marriage said you could see they were genuinely in love. Charles didn't marry her intending for it not to work out. They were just too mismatched. It's clear he and Camilla love each other. I'm happy when people find someone they love. So I'm happy for them and for Harry and Meghan.

It's not a matter of him wanting to be king or not, he was always going to be king, whether he'd married Diana or not.

Haywirecity · 20/05/2023 14:47

behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas · 20/05/2023 12:18

Really OP, do you genuinely believe that Harry - a man who can't even sneeze without it being on every newspaper front page - would HIRE 12 cars blacked out cars with illegally covered up licence plates, hire 12 drivers, pay them to drive illegally and dangerously around a major city, in full view of police officers, purely as a publicity stunt? If Harry was responsible (and such a thing would get out) he'd risk going to prison.

Yes! People seriously lack critical thinking skills. How can two people, without the protection of a whole Palace industry working behind them, arrange a thing like this? 😂

I don't think either the Sussexes or BP organised the paps. But there were NEVER 12 cars! 🙄

behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas · 20/05/2023 15:01

oh you're right - there were 6 cars/bikes, according to the taxi driver.

EmpireStateOfMine · 20/05/2023 15:07

I read that the Sussex entourage comprised four SVUs?

tigger2022 · 20/05/2023 15:36

I think it’s natural to want to believe in conspiracies or grand narratives because it gives you someone to blame. Even at the time there were people who never knew her that couldn’t believe a princess could die in such a random accident like that.

behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas · 20/05/2023 16:11

Think op has had her arse handed back to her on a plate, she's not coming back!

keffie12 · 20/05/2023 16:54

Theunamedcat · 20/05/2023 14:24

I feel making it all about her death diminishes her life she was more than that but lately it all seems to be about the paps her death the conspiracy etc etc

He could do more with his life

H and M do plenty with their life. The philanthropy and service they do you don't hear about in full is ongoing

YouWonJayne · 20/05/2023 16:59

It’s his mum! He lost her at such a young age he’s entitled to remember her however he likes.

waterlego · 20/05/2023 17:05

LeekPeachPlum · 19/05/2023 19:48

I was a similar age to Harry when I lost my mother in tragic circumstances. Sadly, her death is more a part of me than her life was. I was so affected by the trauma of her death, I didn't get the chance to know her alive. She was an amazing woman but I only knew her as the mum I lost. I am not sure if that makes sense but it might be the same for Harry - the pain of losing his mother may be much more prominent than the memory of who she was.

This is exactly what I was thinking. Diana died when Harry was just about reaching adolescence. Given how high profile she was and what a huge media and public interest there was in her death, it makes totally sense to me that Harry might talk about and remember her death far more than his memories of her when she was alive. He suffered a massive trauma as a child (but a child who was old enough to take it all in).

I’m so sorry your lost your Mum @LeekPeachPlum.

Mummyoflittledragon · 20/05/2023 17:21

behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas · 20/05/2023 00:02

Harry and William promised each other it would never be broadcast again. And what did Harry do?

Harry and WiIliam promised each other that they'd never leak or plant stories against each other like their parents did, and what did William do? Even going to the extent of forging Harry's signature..!

Harry doesn't owe W one ounce of respect.

Just reposting this as I’d also like to more.

William allegedly forging Harry’s signature. Can anyone shed some light?

behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas · 20/05/2023 18:52

@Mummyoflittledragon it was in his book Spare.

just repasting what I wrote above:
In his book H said that there was a press release purportedly from both brothers denying that W was trying to push M out of the family. However H says he was shocked because he never agreed to or put his name to that release. This was straight after W shouted at him when they were trying to negotiate their departure, I believe.

YouWonJayne · 20/05/2023 18:56

They actually sent out a press release about William not hating Meghan? I’m sure we’d have seen this. Did they send it out?

YouWonJayne · 20/05/2023 18:56

Very unlike the Royals too to speculate on family rifts