Balcony photo

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I have a few questions about this photo.

1. Everything I have read said it was supposed to be working Royals only on the balcony, but there is Camilla's grandchildren and page boys. Why?
2. Why this particular pose? I would have thought William and Kate would be in a more prominent position beside Charles and Camilla, instead off way off to the side. So what is the reasoning behind the positioning?

George and his siblings are not working royals but they were there. Stop nitpicking

It makes perfect sense. If Louise and James aren't "working royals" as adults then they'll fall away from the formal stuff like this. Although I wouldn't be surprised if Louise was given the option to get involved given the small numbers of young (it even middle aged) people they have ATM.

Exactly. And if the Sussexes had still been working royals, Their children would undoubtedly have been there too, even though they (the children) would not be working royals. Would you find that unacceptable too?

Louise is an adult, not a child.

Yep, but an adult at university still very much part of her nuclear family unit rather than an adult who had already made a choice about which way their adult life is going to go.

There's so much nitpicking I'm not actually sure of the point you're trying to make anymore 🤦‍♀️

I agree. They clearly treat Edward, Sophie and children as a unit eg travelling in the carriage together, going on the balcony. As opposed to Zara and Peter who aren't grouped in with Anne.
Once Louise and James are both over 18 they may separate them out more (if they don't do royal engagements) so they do end up similar to Peter Phillips.

So Sophie will be treated like a child until she is 21? Or 24/5 if she does a PHD.

Louise? I imagine she isn't forced to do it, I imagine it's offered. And it's only at occasions like this - there probably won't be another balcony thing where it's an issue for several years.

This thread reminds me of the way the Politburo lineup at the Mayday parades in Moscow used to be scrutinised. Who's standing where, who isn't there this year, who is there this year but not in the same place as they were last year...at least there was some point to that instead of just nitpicking.

But the palace always say who is on the balcony is important. It's not just who happens to be around. Old balcony photos had any minor royal crammed on. Since they slimmed it down they use who is on the balcony to say who is important

Perhaps it's not black and white? There's a grey area in the middle for people who may be important in the future (keeping the door open for Louise & James) / "minor" children of important people, and people who were important on that specific day (pages and attendants).

Big picture, there was no Harry, no Andrew, no Anne's children, no Andrew's children. No descendants on Kents or Gloucesters. That's the key message I'd takeaway if I were trying to read something into it.

I don't think it would be a good message to exclude the 19 yo DD of a working royal, just because she's had a birthday. Don't know what you're trying to prove tbh - you can't change anything - it's not your decision!

Agreed, it would be even more weird to split her and her brother.

Given the age gaps between Louise, James and the rest of their cousins they are very often grouped in with their cousins kids rather than their cousins.

This thread reminds me of the way the Politburo lineup at the Mayday parades in Moscow used to be scrutinised. Who's standing where, who isn't there this year, who is there this year but not in the same place as they were last year...at least there was some point to that instead of just nitpicking.

😂😂

Imagine if the Royal Family ends up meeting its demise not through a Dynasty style scene of carnage but under the groaning weight of its own expansion and a dramatic balcony collapse.

I'm hope they're stress testing that thing in time for the glorious Paper Jubilee.

Include Harry you need to include Andrew, any other siblings of Camillas, her son,daughter and granddaughter. And the balcony isn't that big

Why would including the king's son (who let's face it hasn't really done anything wrong except rightly put his kids and wife first) mean you need to include the disgraceful embarrassment that is Andrew - who'd already been allowed out to play dress-up earlier that day in a massive insult to the UK - and loads of people who aren't in the line of succession the same way as any of us?

thank you for your post.
can't get ny head round H being grouped in with A.

In view of the criticism that H & M have directed towards the Monarchy, logic would say that they would want to be as far away from any balcony as possible.

Yes to this

Andrew swanning about in the ridiculous rosette studdedvelvet curtains while Harry wears a suit, says it all about the 'royals'.

They can post reels on insta all they like ( hilarious that they think this will attract the young - 'how do you do fellow kids!')- this sort of shot is why they are finished

Sorry my post was replying to @Samcro

It's a bit like organising a wedding, trying not to put noses out of joint and all the family politics that goes with it.
Including H means including Non-working family. That means Include A. Include H & A and you need to include Camillas kids & siblings (and really they want to stay out the limelight) Also Charles is trying to stop H trading off his Royal links (candle & feathers).

Draw the line at Coronation Party and working Royals only.
Clean easy no arguments or Ah buts....

*Andrew swanning about in the ridiculous rosette studdedvelvet curtains while Harry wears a suit, says it all about the 'royals'.

They can post reels on insta all they like ( hilarious that they think this will attract the young - 'how do you do fellow kids!')- this sort of shot is why they are finished*

Yes the kids of today are so smart. They won't be fooled with such a carry on!

@Sugarfree23 why is Charles trying to stop harry trading off his royal links and not other royals?

'Working' and 'royals' both need inverted commas
They don't work
There is no such thing as 'royalty' it is a con job