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Megan pregnant with third?

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Chickenruns · 08/05/2023 07:29

Recent photos, she's walking with friends and she's so slim but definitely looks just like my sister did when she was about 6/7months pregnant - she's wearing black but I'm sure I can see a bump that isn't her usual figure!

Might just be the angle but it would explain why she didn't attend the Coronation and why Harry flew back so quickly. I appreciate he had Archie's birthday too but it would be another reason.

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Maireas · 13/05/2023 15:04

Yes, but be fair - some of the attention is about what Harry himself has said and done. Of course the Oprah interview made the headlines, of course Spare's revelations did. He must have known that this kind of high profile media lifestyle would garner headlines.

Maireas · 13/05/2023 15:08

Did he think, perhaps, they would all be positive?

Ellmau · 13/05/2023 15:13

Probably - like his uncle thought his interview was a good idea.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/05/2023 15:54

Here is Lord Ashcroft's full report. It is the first that, to my knowledge, has looked at the attitudes to the RF both at home and abroad, and I hope that it will be read keenly by KC as it has some insightful signposts to the future.

There is also a lot for those interested in reading of how issues of race, colonialism and the legacy of slavery actually play out in how the monarchy is perceived in the overseas realms, and how the perceived treatment of Meghan and her kids plays into that.

There is a wide difference on these issues between the UK and these countries, even Australia, New Zealand and Canada which have indigenous populations and appear to be more comfortable with these conversations.

It's also beautifully presented and easy to read.

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Uncharted-Realms-Lord-Ashcroft-Polls-May-2023.pdf

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Uncharted-Realms-Lord-Ashcroft-Polls-May-2023.pdf

Whaeanui · 13/05/2023 16:00

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/05/2023 15:54

Here is Lord Ashcroft's full report. It is the first that, to my knowledge, has looked at the attitudes to the RF both at home and abroad, and I hope that it will be read keenly by KC as it has some insightful signposts to the future.

There is also a lot for those interested in reading of how issues of race, colonialism and the legacy of slavery actually play out in how the monarchy is perceived in the overseas realms, and how the perceived treatment of Meghan and her kids plays into that.

There is a wide difference on these issues between the UK and these countries, even Australia, New Zealand and Canada which have indigenous populations and appear to be more comfortable with these conversations.

It's also beautifully presented and easy to read.

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Uncharted-Realms-Lord-Ashcroft-Polls-May-2023.pdf

Thank you for posting this, will definitely give it a read

Maireas · 13/05/2023 16:04

It is interesting, thank you - I'm surprised at how many of the realms consider the king to be a unifying force and leads to stability. It would appear that those polled for Canada were least convinced. I wonder if Canada should just have a different head of state? Obviously it's not compulsory to either have the King as head of state, nor be part of the Commonwealth.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/05/2023 16:29

So glad you are reading it @Maireas as and @Whaeanui

Lord Ashcroft has been breaking it down for different audiences, more complexly for Conservative party home page, and more jingoistically for the Daily Mail :)

Maireas · 13/05/2023 16:31

Yes, I was actually reading his breakdown commentary from his own website.
I think some of the very small countries understandably find benefits from being linked to a larger nation, which is why Canada features as it does on the graph.

KattyJo · 13/05/2023 16:39

@MrsMaxDeWinter

I'm afraid your posts just read like propaganda to me, they aren't really relevant to the thread topic so I'm just scrolling past them...

wildfirewonder · 13/05/2023 16:50

Was interesting to read how strong the republican vote would be in many Commonwealth countries, it is rare to see views from anywhere other than Can/Aus/NZ.

Think the Commonwealth make up could change quite rapidly.

notanotheroneagain · 13/05/2023 16:51

@MrsMaxDeWinter

Those links are so insightful.

Thanks.

Just saw MM just now trending for something about mothers day and Archewell. She looks so youthful and slim. Now I believe the people saying she is using weights etc. These latest pics look like she is in her 20s or something. Definitely not preggers.

Megan pregnant with third?
Roussette · 13/05/2023 16:58

Thank you @MrsMaxDeWinter

I have downloaded the Ashcroft report for later reading. I just scrolled through quickly and yes it's beautifully presented.

@notanotheroneagain
I agree! I presume that's a pic for Mothers Day which is tomorrow in the US.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/05/2023 17:10

@KattyJo

The thread topic is Megan pregnant with third?.

She very clearly is not, as has been established within the first three pages or two. And her name is spelled Meghan not Megan.

But if you want me to stick to that topic, I say no, "Megan" is not pregnant with her third child. And if she were, you would hear about it from her and Harry, not from an OP in such a hurry to speculate that she can't even spell correctly the name of the person she is speculating about.

Happy?😜

Rhondaa · 13/05/2023 17:27

Maireas · 13/05/2023 15:04

Yes, but be fair - some of the attention is about what Harry himself has said and done. Of course the Oprah interview made the headlines, of course Spare's revelations did. He must have known that this kind of high profile media lifestyle would garner headlines.

Yes I'm not quite sure how much longer some will blindly blame The Evil Daily Mail when we've all heard the words directly from Harry's mouth. The many media interviews, the reality shows, the book. He said all this crap, folk really have got to stop blaming the British media as if they made it all up. No, he did.

Rhondaa · 13/05/2023 17:32

wildfirewonder · 13/05/2023 16:50

Was interesting to read how strong the republican vote would be in many Commonwealth countries, it is rare to see views from anywhere other than Can/Aus/NZ.

Think the Commonwealth make up could change quite rapidly.

Yes it does seem to have had it's day and tbh what does it actually do for us in this country anyway? Some people forever bleat on about Empire 2 which is bollocks. Just leave them all to their republics imo.

Maireas · 13/05/2023 17:39

Well, it's certainly not Empire 2, some countries joined that were never in the Empire eg Rawanda and Gabon. There must be enough benefits to stay? Anyway, it's not compulsory. It was very important to the late Queen of course, and she gave special roles to Harry and Meghan. Meghan's wedding veil was a tribute to the Commonwealth, with all the flowers embroidered on it, and as such was received very well by the Queen.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/05/2023 18:02

There appears to be some often confusion between the overseas realms like Barbados (and now it looks like Jamaica and St Kitts are next) wanting to be republics, and the independent republics that are part of the Commonwealth voluntarily.

One is a constitutional state of affairs, the other a voluntary choice.

What is likely to change is not Commonwealth membership but the constitutional status of some of the overseas realms. They are all saying they will be happy to remain part of the Commonwealth: it is a voluntary club of nations that were (for the most part) former British colonies. Being a Commonwealth member nation is a different kettle of fish from your country having the monarch as head of state. Just like in the UK, in Jamaica for instance royal assent is needed for legislation passed by parliament to enter into law. It is for this reasons that there is a resident governor-general who represents the monarch in the overseas realms.

I think it is a bit much to have Charles as head of state of a Caribbean overseas realm when the people of that realm still need a visa to go to the country in which their head of state resides (but citizens from the white majority Commonwealth countries like Australia, New Zealand and Canada can travel visa free) This is one of the issues highlighted in the Ashcroft report.

derxa · 13/05/2023 18:27

Of course who the maternal ancestors of a future king of England As I keep typing ad nauseam on here, there is no such title. Piers Morgan makes that mistake as well.

polkadotdalmation · 13/05/2023 18:31

Hopefully all the countries who have the monarch as their head of state will opt out. I hope Charles pushes for this, because it's unsustainable in a small slimmed down monarchy. I hope they keep the commonwealth and it says what it does on the tin.

Roussette · 13/05/2023 18:34

(and now it looks like Jamaica and St Kitts are next)

And Belize wanting to become a republic, despite K&W visiting them last year.
No idea, of course, if that will happen, but they have talked about it.

Maireas · 13/05/2023 18:38

It's the countries' choice, though - nothing really to do with a slimmed down Monarchy. It's a supranational organisation with more than 80 organisations within which support all manner of endeavours. Should it suit the nations, it doesn't even need a Monarchy at all. Plus you can be a republic and be a member.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/05/2023 18:57

Exactly my point @Maireas

Mumsnet posters frequently confuse the overseas realms of which there are 14 with the Commonwealth countries, which incudes the 14 but which also has a majority membership of independent republics, linked by the history of colonialism. Rwanda, Gabon, Togo and I think Mozambique joined without the colonial history.

That is one way to address the colonial history, by looking beyond it to welcome all willing members no matter their past relationship to the British Crown. Another is to have the head of the Commonwealth be elected, and not have it assumed that it should always be the guy who was anointed by vegan oil under a canopy in the Abbey.

Being head of state of the overseas realms, like being head of state of the UK, is hereditary. Being head of the Commonwealth is not.

The conversation began even before the Queen died, and Charles took over for her, but I expect to to be revisited in coming years.

Great old article on the subject here.

https://theconversation.com/who-told-prince-charles-he-could-be-head-of-the-commonwealth-51271

Who told Prince Charles he could be Head of the Commonwealth?

The question of who will replace the Queen as Head of Commonwealth is not as simple as it sounds.

https://theconversation.com/who-told-prince-charles-he-could-be-head-of-the-commonwealth-51271

Maireas · 13/05/2023 19:04

I think I read at the time that many agreed as a tribute to the late Queen. After Charles, I doubt very much it will be William.

AllIeveknewonlyou · 13/05/2023 19:17

notanotheroneagain · 13/05/2023 16:51

@MrsMaxDeWinter

Those links are so insightful.

Thanks.

Just saw MM just now trending for something about mothers day and Archewell. She looks so youthful and slim. Now I believe the people saying she is using weights etc. These latest pics look like she is in her 20s or something. Definitely not preggers.

She definitely looks 40s! But pretty and happy.