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Would Charles and Diana have divorced if Camilla wasn’t in the picture?

128 replies

MamoruHisaishi · 07/05/2023 15:00

Was it really Camilla who ruined the marriage or was it just that Diana and Charles would have ended up divorced regardless if another woman or man was in the picture?

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Beamur · 07/05/2023 15:01

Probably.

Floralnomad · 07/05/2023 15:02

Yes they would have divorced because they weren’t suited at all and both were having affairs , not just him .

Reugny · 07/05/2023 15:03

They weren't suited.

Apart from Edward, his other two siblings are divorced.

Topseyt123 · 07/05/2023 15:07

I am sure they would have divorced because they were just so totally incompatible. They literally had nothing whatsoever in common.

It was a marriage virtually pushed on them by both of their families. Now, the late Queen may have had many talents, but matchmaking definitely wasn't one of them.

MuffinToSeeHere · 07/05/2023 15:10

Yes they would absolutely have gotten divorced. It always makes me chuckle when people seem to blame Camilla for the divorce, Charles and Diana had fuck all in common except their 2 children and even with no other women or men in the picture they would have ended up filing for divorce anyone who thinks otherwise is looking back through rose tinted glasses.

ConstanceReid · 07/05/2023 15:15

Of course they would have been divorced.

They barely knew each other and were completely incompatible in an arranged marriage. Neither of them had any respect for their marriage vows. It was doomed to fail.

I am an ardent Republican, but I can at least respect that he has ended up with the woman he loves.

LimeCheesecake · 07/05/2023 15:18

Possibly -he also had an affair during their marriage with Kanga (can’t remember her surname) and there may have been others that didn’t make the newspapers, he was “seen to be close with” several posh ladies during their marriage, and rumours after the marriage ended of other woman, not just Camilla. But if they’d have split up over other women or if others would have just come and gone, we’ll never know.

Izzabellasasperella · 07/05/2023 15:22

I'd like to think if Charles wasn't in love with Camilla then he may have grown to love Diana. If he had been a loving and attentive husband to her which is what she desperately needed due to her rather grim childhood. Probably a ridiculous romantic notion thoughSmile
In reality he was too old for her and they had nothing in common. I'm sure he constantly compared the two women and found Diana lacking and definitely not his intellectual equal.

AnnaMagnani · 07/05/2023 15:23

If Camilla hadn;t been in the picture, there would have been someone else. She wasn't even the only mistress.

PollyPeptide · 07/05/2023 15:33

LimeCheesecake · 07/05/2023 15:18

Possibly -he also had an affair during their marriage with Kanga (can’t remember her surname) and there may have been others that didn’t make the newspapers, he was “seen to be close with” several posh ladies during their marriage, and rumours after the marriage ended of other woman, not just Camilla. But if they’d have split up over other women or if others would have just come and gone, we’ll never know.

No, he did not have an affair with Kanga during his marriage. His relationship with her was over in the mid 1970s after she started to leak information to the newspapers. They never got back together.
And actually Diana was friendly with her and used to buy from her shop. She wouldn't have bought from Camillas shop!

ily0xx · 07/05/2023 15:38

Yes, he didn’t love her.

Sudeko · 07/05/2023 15:40

Less likely so soon while the children were so young and a whole lot less acrimonious even if they did.

WinnieTheW0rm · 07/05/2023 15:41

Very probably.

Remember that Camilla was not the only mistress around the time Charles married Diana, and there was no reason to have predicted back then which of the two main mistresses (if either) would have resumed an affair

KirstenBlest · 07/05/2023 15:41

Of course not. They were perfect for each other. Twin souls. A match made in heaven.
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Pugdogmom · 07/05/2023 15:42

They were totally unsuited. I am no fan of Charles, but I think he did try and the beginning of their marriage to make it work, but they didn't love each other and had nothing in common.

RavenclawDiadem · 07/05/2023 15:43

They were a fundamentally unsuited couple who had no shared interests and nothing in common.

Theunamedcat · 07/05/2023 15:43

Not long before her death William and Harry said they were getting along better and coparenting I think she was too emotionally immature for him he can't deal with anyone else's emotions he can barely deal with his own they were ill suited

It was the queen mother's idea she cooked it up with dianas family she was already in need of mental health support due to her family the royal family and the marriage put the tin lid on it

It was such a fairytale the cracks showed before the marriage though look at the engagement interview her face you can see her processing his "whatever love means" remark and dismiss it almost

WinnieTheW0rm · 07/05/2023 15:46

PollyPeptide · 07/05/2023 15:33

No, he did not have an affair with Kanga during his marriage. His relationship with her was over in the mid 1970s after she started to leak information to the newspapers. They never got back together.
And actually Diana was friendly with her and used to buy from her shop. She wouldn't have bought from Camillas shop!

Kanga was still in touch in 1985 (all that stuff about the dress), and I think it was some time after that when contact dwindled.

It seems possible he had no active mistresses during the years when the princes were born. Not clear on timelines of when either of then started having affairs after that. Earliest admitted by either spouse was Diana with Barry Manakee from 1984-1986 - not clear if emotional or fully physical.

Sudeko · 07/05/2023 15:46

Yes, they were ill suited but having a named adultery partner constantly lurking in the sidelines was much more inflammatory than accepting that you have nothing in common and parting amicably. What kind of a marriage was that? It was an appalling act of cruelty by Charles and Camilla.

midsomermurderess · 07/05/2023 15:46

She didn't love him.

Sudeko · 07/05/2023 15:47

AnnaMagnani · 07/05/2023 15:23

If Camilla hadn;t been in the picture, there would have been someone else. She wasn't even the only mistress.

Are you referring to his fling with Annabel?

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 07/05/2023 16:03

Yes. They were completely incompatible, it would never have worked. He may have had affair(s), but so did she. I doubt either of them truly loved the other tbh.

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 07/05/2023 16:07

I’m 60 watched as it all unfolded but wasn’t aware that Charles held a candle for Camilla.
Charles was a bit of a party boy, had lots of girlfriends. It seems that during this time he fell for but was not allowed to marry Camilla because she is Catholic. Camilla married and had children but stayed in Charles’s close circle. They clearly carried on their relationship which is a sort of done thing amongst their class. Forces decided Charles should marry, he had to marry a virgin, Diana was found. Charles and Diana were clearly not a match but she was very young and believed herself in love. There is a moment where they are interviewed at their engagement announcement and asked if they are in love. She replies “Of course” he says “Whatever love means”. I remember watching that and thinking it was a concerning response.
I’m pretty sure Charles thought he could remain married sire an heir and a spare and carry on his relationship with the woman he loved (Camilla).
instead Diana became an international superstar who grew in confidence and was not as easily manipulated as had been imagined. The reason so many of us still hold her in affection is because she was so young and innocent and was literally a lamb to the brood mare slaughter. So sad.
Charles like his aunt Margaret before him was not allowed to marry the person he loved. Diana was denied a marriage to someone who would have appreciated her. It’s all very sad.

90stalgia · 07/05/2023 16:11

Charles was a bit of a party boy, had lots of girlfriends. It seems that during this time he fell for but was not allowed to marry Camilla because she is Catholic.

Camilla isn't, and never has been, a Catholic. She married a Catholic (Andrew Parker-Bowles) but didn't convert to Catholicism.

She didn't marry Charles because she didn't want to - she was in love with Andrew P-B.

90stalgia · 07/05/2023 16:15

She replies “Of course” he says “Whatever love means”.

He didn't - he said 'whatever 'in love' means' . This was a reference to cliched news headlines and the like saying people were 'in love' at the drop of a hat. I don't often defend Charles but the remark was reasonable, and is often misquoted to make it sound unreasonable, as you have.

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