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Would Charles and Diana have divorced if Camilla wasn’t in the picture?

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MamoruHisaishi · 07/05/2023 15:00

Was it really Camilla who ruined the marriage or was it just that Diana and Charles would have ended up divorced regardless if another woman or man was in the picture?

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notanotheroneagain · 08/05/2023 09:54

MamoruHisaishi · 07/05/2023 15:00

Was it really Camilla who ruined the marriage or was it just that Diana and Charles would have ended up divorced regardless if another woman or man was in the picture?

They would not have divorced at all.

At some point, Diana describes Charles attitude towards her as 'hot and cold'. Some times he was all over her. I think he would have been happy with his trophy wife, tbh.

She gave birth to 2 healthy boys (as requested of her role back then), they probably would have had more children.

Camilla was constantly in the way, probably because she was miserable because of her own husband's cheating. As her brother in law describes her, she doesn't want others to have nice things. She is the type that would have kicked down other kids' sandcastles down the beach.

Daffodilwoman · 08/05/2023 09:55

Who was the man who’s wife rang the police due to the huge amounts of phone calls they were getting. She thought her husbands life was at threat. Was he in the military or something. Turned out it was Diana constantly ringing him and hanging up whenever his wife answered.

midsomermurderess · 08/05/2023 10:04

That was the art dealer. She became obsessed with him. Would leave KP and ring him from phone boxes. She was not well.

midsomermurderess · 08/05/2023 10:05

Oliver Hoare.

Ellmau · 08/05/2023 10:08

*They would not have divorced at all.

At some point, Diana describes Charles attitude towards her as 'hot and cold'. Some times he was all over her. I think he would have been happy with his trophy wife, tbh.*

I think they would both have been desperately unhappy.

notanotheroneagain · 08/05/2023 10:13

And posters going on as if Diana would have had the affairs, if it was not for Camilla.

Camilla was giving Charles a bj on the eve of his wedding. She lurked throughout C&D's marriage.

Sudeko · 08/05/2023 10:17

midsomermurderess · 08/05/2023 10:04

That was the art dealer. She became obsessed with him. Would leave KP and ring him from phone boxes. She was not well.

You know that she was not well so why mention it disparagingly. She had massively unfulfilled needs due to marrying the wrong person at too young an age. Perhaps she was trying to create a delayed teenage experience for herself exploring what it was like to hunt a guy as sport since she was always being hunted down by photographers. It is not really excusable but I don't think she would still be doing it at age sixty.

polkadotdalmation · 08/05/2023 10:24

Yes, it was a marriage they were both shoehorned into. I'm sure they must have felt affection for each other in the beginning, even it it was the 'in love' Diana felt, and affection Charles felt. I think they did try to make a go of it but they were so different it would never work. Diana's dreadful childhood and insecurities must have been exhausting and charles really loved someone else.

Divorce was inevitable, but I think they would eventually have a friendship based around their sons. Diana didn't seem able to find real love, like Charles did. Dodi was not the one imo, but if she had lived I hope she would have found someone steady and loving to share her life with. All very sad.

polkadotdalmation · 08/05/2023 10:25

notanotheroneagain · 08/05/2023 10:13

And posters going on as if Diana would have had the affairs, if it was not for Camilla.

Camilla was giving Charles a bj on the eve of his wedding. She lurked throughout C&D's marriage.

You were there then? Or a newspaper reporter was?
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midsomermurderess · 08/05/2023 10:30

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90stalgia · 08/05/2023 10:32

polkadotdalmation · 08/05/2023 10:25

You were there then? Or a newspaper reporter was?
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There's an apocryphal tale that Charles and Camilla met in a train carriage for sex on the eve of his wedding.

Sudeko · 08/05/2023 10:33

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Ignorant, judgmental and wide off the mark. It sounds like a rewarding existence you have going on there.

itispersonal · 08/05/2023 10:43

Yes

notanotheroneagain · 08/05/2023 11:05

polkadotdalmation · 08/05/2023 10:25

You were there then? Or a newspaper reporter was?
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As it happens that reporter did not hear it from sources. He witnessed it himself. He was there to cover the wedding and all the hotels were fully booked. So he went to the royal train which was on a field to try and get some sleep and found them.

https://twitter.com/isexton/status/1530857620424249345

Camilla was always in the picture.
From the bracelets when Charles was travelling, even when Harry was born, Charles went to meet CPB at a polo match straight after he was brought home.

Diana explicitly said she just wanted her husband. Camilla was an ominous presence making Diana's life hell. I believe her own husband was already cheating non stop by then.

https://twitter.com/NetflixTudum/status/1333916606242570240

https://twitter.com/ScrewMorrison/status/1655357754905886720

https://twitter.com/isexton/status/1530857620424249345

notanotheroneagain · 08/05/2023 11:08

In the meantime, Camilla was on a mission to discredit Diana as paranoid, batty, crazy.

Jilted lovers, my a**e

Would Charles and Diana have divorced if Camilla wasn’t in the picture?
Would Charles and Diana have divorced if Camilla wasn’t in the picture?
Would Charles and Diana have divorced if Camilla wasn’t in the picture?
polkadotdalmation · 08/05/2023 11:09

Guess what. I woke up this morning, flew around my garden and landed on the shed.

Yes, that's how easy it is to print bollox. You only have to make it slightly more believable and people will believe. 🤣🤣🤣

polkadotdalmation · 08/05/2023 11:12

Soooo. Let's get this straight. The shitty newspapers print endless shite about Meghan and Harry and it's all misogynistic, lies and racist nonsense.

An equally shite newspapers print shite about Charles and Camilla, and all of it is true. Well there you go.

Sudeko · 08/05/2023 11:16

I vomited a bit in my mouth there (whether or not true). I bet that poor lackey was not just scrubbing grass stains out of Charles' clothes. It's the shagging equivalent of Tough Mudder 😂

milveycrohn · 08/05/2023 13:08

They most likely would still have divorced.
Otherwise, they would have hung on grimly in an unhappy marriage.
I remember well, when they were engaged. Colleagues in my office said then they were ill-matched. They could see it at the time. I was young and a bit idealistic. I honestly thought it might work, until I saw that ghastly wedding dress. All frills and bows, emphasising her youth (or rather their age difference). However, I should say, their age diference was not so important to me, as I thought it might work. But later when Diana said they had only met a dozen times before the wedding, I realised she was in love with the PoW, but not the real person.

notanotheroneagain · 08/05/2023 13:19

polkadotdalmation · 08/05/2023 11:12

Soooo. Let's get this straight. The shitty newspapers print endless shite about Meghan and Harry and it's all misogynistic, lies and racist nonsense.

An equally shite newspapers print shite about Charles and Camilla, and all of it is true. Well there you go.

The papers are printing rubbish about Meghan to save Camilla's reputation. It's well known that her team is in a what app group with them.

Who were they covering up for, when they printed the stories about Camilla?

notanotheroneagain · 08/05/2023 13:43

Ellmau · 08/05/2023 10:08

*They would not have divorced at all.

At some point, Diana describes Charles attitude towards her as 'hot and cold'. Some times he was all over her. I think he would have been happy with his trophy wife, tbh.*

I think they would both have been desperately unhappy.

It's true that Diana was an emotionally needy person.

But that, together with Charles fragile ego of having a beautiful young wife pining after him (if not rather clingy), he would have been fine with this. Doesn't camilla call him sir or majesty of something?

Diana, always viewed Charles as her real life Prince Charming. She would have concentrated on him, which would have buoyed Charles fragility. She also would not have stolen the limelight to get public attention as she would have had it at home.

Would he have cheated with lovers and flirtations? Possibly, but she was so enamoured, I believe if he had pledged his devotion to her, these would have been viewed by Diana as fleeting hiccups that mean nothing to him, but satisfaction of his ego as a desirable man, infact, there probably would not have been many because ultimately he had the prize at home.

Camilla took advantage of Diana's young naivety, and weaponised that against her in good time. Very strategic indeed. Diana was never going to remain a child forever - we saw this in how she dealt with issues/charities/people.

What Camilla did was to use her age as 'the mature one' ' who has known you longer and therefore familiar' 'we have so much in common' , in time - thereby blocking Diana be any of these things.

Diana had no space to breath. As far as I'm concerned if Camila had been away for even 5-10yrs, Charles focus would have been on Diana.

Summerwhereareyou · 08/05/2023 13:55

I'm not sure.

Diana acted out because she was spade deeply upset and traumatised by realising that Charles didn't love her.

So remove camilla and her constant presence then I really don't feel Diana behaviour would have been so difficult or extreme because she wouldn't have been in such pain.
If they had ended up seperate one wonders if it might have been a little more calm.

Summerwhereareyou · 08/05/2023 13:56

Spade / so!!

polkadotdalmation · 08/05/2023 14:21

@notanotheroneagain Funny, when that charles and camilla story was printed, meghan was a struggling young actress, so unless they had a time machine, it would have been difficult.

If you're referring to the conspiracy theories and lies (well he is a bit delusional isn't he) in Harry's book re Camilla and the papers, well Tesco sells tin foil.

notanotheroneagain · 08/05/2023 15:02

The hell are you talking about?

My whole point is that no one was being covered for with Camilla stories. They were what took place.

MM stories were lies to promote CPB as being better.