The markel family interview

[IamSuperTired]

Anyone know how/where I can watch it? :) I think it's on today ....

The family I was raised in is dysfunctional and so is my husbands. Parents set the tone, it’s dysfunctional because of Thomas’ own behaviour. It doesn’t matter what dysfunctional behaviour your children engage in, you’re still responsible as a parent for your own.

I think if Thomas Markle didn’t have a heart attack, he had severe panic attacks at the thought of the wedding

Yup, my Dad is very anxious and shy and had an absolute meltdown before I got married when someone said they’d be filming his speech! I hadn’t asked him to do one and he didn’t, because I wouldn’t do that to him but the suggestion set him off and he was very rude to everyone. But we don’t have the press to contend with so everything was discussed calmly later. As much as I feel for Thomas in many ways, ultimately a father needs to prioritise his child and be loyal and supportive.

'The family I was raised in is dysfunctional and so is my husbands. Parents set the tone, it’s dysfunctional because of Thomas’ own behaviour. It doesn’t matter what dysfunctional behaviour your children engage in, you’re still responsible as a parent for your own.'

Yes I've said before I think a lot of projection goes on on these threads.

I have to say though it does matter what dysfunctional behaviour dc engage in, within reason. If your df shouldn't breach privacy with his 'truth' and do telly interviews then neither should you. But consistency and lack of hypocrisy have never been the Sussexes strong points.

Actually after the you tube clips I've seen of Thomas Markle saying awful things about his daughter, after what Samantha has said, and Thomas jnr has said while wearing blackface and playing with two dolls that are meant to represent his sister and her husband having sex, I'm at the point that I'd question Meghan and Harry for letting their children have anything to do with their 'dear' grandfather.

As another poster said, why doesn't Thomas see his oldest 5 grandchildren if he's so desperate.

Sometimes parents do things to their children that are unforgivable.

Thomas Markle wasn't even invited to the wedding. He said he did not receive a formal invitation. Doria did. If he is telling the truth I think that sounds very odd indeed. Doria also received a scroll announcing the engagement Thomas didn't.

He was also told he wouldn't be allowed to make a speech. I think he got the feeling he was unwanted there. And why didn't she introduce him to Harry before the wedding.

'I think if Thomas Markle didn’t have a heart attack, he had severe panic attacks at the thought of the wedding and Meghan/Harry in hindsight should have met him but water under the bridge now.'

Yes but relevant when we see the constant car crash unfolding before us. It was all so predictable, us as strangers and outsiders could see it was going to be massively overwhelming for TM. They sat blathering to a reporter for their engagement interview that Harry hadn't met him, I mean why?! He should've been in the loop from the start, onside and made to feel like he was part of it not just a guest to fly in and fly out again.

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William, Kate and the Middletons will see that similar dynamics are avoided. And that's a really good thing

Good god! That's two things agreed on today!
I also agree Archie and Lili appear happy and loved. Most parents who come from dysfunctional families seem determined to make their kids lives better. Harry's was probably more dysfunctional than meghans as she at least had a doting father growing up and contact with both parents. Divorced parents aren't necessarily dysfunctional although the wider Markle family, in particular Sam and Thomas jr seem to have had a dreadful upbringing.

Thomas Markle wasn't even invited to the wedding.

Do you believe this? I do not. His own actions have told us who he is.

I do wonder where and how this is all going to end, it’s all very unnecessary. People need to deal with their family matters in private.

A parents love is generally speaking, unconditional and Thomas definitely loves Meghan, more so than his other children. A child's love for their parent is often unconditional. How often do you see here how a daughter still maintains a relationship with a narcissistic/alcoholic/abusive parent? I hope Meghan one day soon reaches out to her dad, but he needs to shut up for that to happen. I think she will regret if he dies and there has been no reconciliation.

From watching the program what they all said was Meghan and Harry had expressed their POV and they just wanted to get their side of the story across. Quite understandable but we've seen from the RF a total shutdown in response and it's been the best policy in the long run. They should learn from that. Harry and Meghan I hope have said all they need to on the matter. I don't agree with how they did it or even believe half of what they said, but now just stop. They may be able to build the life they said they wanted and find peace.

@Viviennemary

This is not true all. He said the following in the interview I have linked below:

Piers: Was it your intention to come to the wedding?

Thomas: Yes, it was all set in place for me to go.

Piers: Would it not have been a good idea to come earlier?

Thomas: Those guys were busy, the last thing they needed was me there. And someone would have found me there.

In this interview, he confirms that he was coming to the wedding, that Harry and Meghan were very forgiving and even AFTER the pap photos, he was still invited..

When asked if they still wanted him to come over, he said absolutely.

The tickets were booked, he says. He was ready to come over.

He is then pressed on the truth of what happened and says he couldn't get over the fact that all of that had happened, he experienced heart palpitations, ended up in hospital with a heart attack.

Even after that, they were still ready to fly him, a fried of Harry's was assigned to pick him up.

He is asked at what point he told Meghan he would not come.

He hesitates a lot then mumbles that it was before he went into hospital.

Which we now know to be a lie. He told her through TMZ.

He also says he spoke to them and they said take care of yourself, your health is most important.

But in subsequent interviews he says she was not worried about him, and did not talk to him at all.

@Whaeanui would you also be telling tales about your todger on a worldwide stage and saying how many people you had killed?
Would anybody think that H is giving a flying f**k about his kids when he does this? He has surely compromised their personal security and made them a laughing stock by association.

There will be some posters who will defend this man despite evidence proving that he has lied

Agree with this

@Lampzade

Thing is he has given so many conflicting interviews he has tripped himself up.

On GMB, after Oprah, he expressed sorrow over her suicidal ideation.

Then on GBNews, with Dan Wootton he said he did not believe her.

Also on GBNews, he denied the press was ever racist to her.

He was often very biting about Harry when speaking with journalists who don't like him.

He even uses terms like "ginger whinger" that are used in the press.

His appearances were clearly manipulated, depending on who he is talking to.

The Australia thing bombed because his brief was to be sympathetic, but it went off script because he had with him henchmen whose brief was to slam M. How do you plead for reconciliation with your daughter when the people sitting next to you are saying your daughter is in a toxic relationship, and in the next clip, you are all making fun of them. Make it make sense!

What has any of your nonsense here got to do with what I said about being a supportive parent? I don’t have a todger, I’m a woman.

This is from "Battle of Brothers: William and Harry – The Inside Story of a Family in Tumult" by Robert Lacey. This book was published way before Spare - as you can see Harry was always a Taliban risk. There have been other books that hve speculated on how many Taliban he killed and in Spare - he simply confirmed it. To state that he has compromised his security because of it is absolutely laughable - he already was and is at risk. He needs to go into the time machine and not have gone to Afghanistan or not have children by this metric. But that is not the point is it? The point from you is to castigate and criticise him for all his choices and decisions insofar as to leave the royal family. I mean, who is laughing at the children? Are you?

@skullbabe

The figure given by Robert Jobson in his book Harry's War was 30.

Funny that.

His 'loss' of a daughter gives off very similar vibes to the loss of a prized work of art that was stolen or a rare breed of cat which escaped his clutches. He was deeply in awe of her in an unhealthy way and is wounded and confused. I wouldn't really consider it a healthy father-daughter dynamic.

You’ve posted this same comment on another thread. It’s a weird unpleasant thing to say. There’s no basis for it. Their relationship seemed pretty normal until she met Harry.

Suddenly he became a liability because the attention of the international press meant he could no longer be polished up with an Instagram filter but would be on show exactly as he was for the world to see - fat and awkward and embarrassing.

Is it true that the ‘pap’ photographer that took the photos of TM in Mexico which gave H&M the excuse they needed to cut him off was someone who had worked with Meghan before?

What would you say her level is? How do you know what charity work other actors do? And did you know about any charity work she'd ever done before you heard about her going out with Harry?

@Quokkasarecutest

So you think Samantha worked with Meghan to set up their father? Because she admitted she set it up.

As confirmed in the interview above, TM was scheduled to attend the wedding even AFTER the pap photos, but pulled out.

'Suddenly he became a liability because the attention of the international press meant he could no longer be polished up with an Instagram filter but would be on show exactly as he was for the world to see - fat and awkward and embarrassing.'

Yes he didn't quite fit the glitzy celeb filled wedding did he, he'll have known that made all the more obvious by lack of meeting Harry before any announcements.

He confirmed himself that he was set to travel until he had his heart attack.

But feel free to rewrite what happened. After all, you have already looked into the future and seen what A and L will do 20 years from now!

I’ll be honest, I’m not really a fan of MM but to hear her being knocked by her own brother over chickens just shows how little he knows both about her or life in general. With great confidence, he gave the very concept of rescue chickens existing as an example of her lies.