The markel family interview

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Anyone know how/where I can watch it? :) I think it's on today ....

As confirmed in the interview above, TM was scheduled to attend the wedding even AFTER the pap photos, but pulled out.

Yes… in much the same way as the RF wouldn’t allow her to invite her niece perhaps?

Having some experience of manipulative people this doesn’t surprise me. He may have been invited in theory but actually they did everything they could to make him feel awkward and unwelcome about coming. Much like the way Meghan was ‘invited’ to the coronation maybe?

In the middle of it all he was hospitalised with a heart attack. Not sure why people claim he made it up.

I was googling this yesterday and both the famous letter Meghan wrote to her dad and the text messages Harry and Meghan sent him (as submitted as evidence in the court case) felt very false and insincere. They seemed obviously written for public consumption - in my opinion to cover up the fact that he was never wanted at the wedding.

An actress working on a TV show.

Like most I have a passing internet in some celebs and have an idea of their charitable endeavours - they talk about them.

No because I didn’t know anything about her so I didn’t know about her charity efforts.

Learned about her charity efforts when looking into why she was at One World - was surprised at what she did do way before she married Harry.

Well I think that if the Markles' aim in doing that interview was to make Meghan look bad then they seem to have shot themselves in the foot quite spectacularly.

I saw a bit of it and switched off at the barbecue part. They came across as nasty and vindictive. I am sure that Thomas does love Meghan in his own way but frankly I wouldn't want my children to have anything to do with him or his other horrible children.

How many times do you see on here people being advised to keep their children away from grandparents or other family members who are making nasty derogatory comments?

None of us really know what went on in the Markle family (and I am including SM and TM jr's childhoods here) but one thing which is clear is that the family is very dysfunctional.

@feellikeanalien

It indeed backfired on them as the message was not consistent.

agree with you both

Totally agree

Having some experience of manipulative people this doesn’t surprise me.

@Quokkasarecutest Yes, some experience here too and there is manipulation going on absolutely.

I thought the interview was quite horrible though I was sad to see such a sick Thomas Markle.

The two siblings, especially SM, really are awful people, bristling with resentment and trotting out current zeitgeist terms such as 'narcissist'. Honestly! You couldn't make it up.

I am very glad that Samantha's estranged daughter is very, very good friends with Meghan. It was wise that she did not attend the wedding, one can imagine how the press would have descended on the poor girl, but she visits them now they are in LA. That is a very precious relationship.

As for the footage of Meghan growing up with her father, there was a lot of that in the Netflix documentary so what's new? She loved her dad very much and probably still does but is exasperated. I wish the media hadn't targeted him before the wedding but what's done is done. He could have put it right, M&H wanted to fly him over to England which he has admitted, but he wouldn't budge.

Poor old chap though. I can't think of anything else to say about him right now.

I haven't seen it but lots of people are saying how ill Thomas Markle looked. I wonder if Meghan has seen it and how she feels. I think even if you have a difficult relationship a parent dying is hard and she must feel like he might not have long. I hope it isn't the public interest that is stopping her contacting him as it will be hard for her if he dies and she hasn't seen him.

That whole bitching over the barbeque scene well and truly buried their credibility (not that TJ and S had any left). It is a shame that he cannot reach out without their involvement. They are very much the problem as their interests are diametrically opposed to those of Meghan. Their loss was her gain early on in life. Now, her loss is their gain. Those two relationships are unsalvageable.

hasn't he been ill for years?

Gosh what a thing to say. He's recently had a stroke which has resulted in some paralysis of his facial muscles as far as I can tell. he is being exploited by Sam and Thomas Jr. Like hell would I sit idly by and let that happen to my father. But according to all the NC and 'toxic' chanters on here that is the right thing to do. Poor old Thomas Markle is a blot on the picture perfect Meghan world.

I'm curious @derxa. You admit that he is clearly being manipulated by his other two children. What, in your view should Meghan do? Anything she does will be used by the other two.

SIf it was about mending family rights, they would be prioritising mending the rifts with their own children. Samantha didn't even go to her own daughter's wedding. For them, ts not about mending the family, but about lashing out at M through their father. She can't win on this, the most she can do is to offer quietly to care for his medical expenses while maintaining her distance from all of them.

I woulden't care about the other two. Unless Thomas doesn't have his own phone and she has to contact him that way. And yes she could offer to pay for some rehab if he doesn't have good insurance. What if he has another stroke and becomes completely immobile or has severe dysphasia. What then?

Why is it odd? It’s not like he has suddenly got ill
he has chosen his path. To team up with the daughter who has sued Meghan.
yet somehow it’s all Meghans fault

I posted some links upthread about the way strokes and heart attacks affect the person's personality. They can trigger depression and profound personality changes. I used to see this in the patients I worked with on the wards as a SALT. Thomas is getting attention from his son and daughter and that will make him feel wanted. Thomas Markle is ill, sad and probably desperate for money. But let's paint him as a pantomime villain.

I wouldn't think that most people would know who she was so naturally they wouldn't know her charity work. Wouldn't that be the case for most actresses, that you wouldn't know what they'd done for charity. But if they married a prince, you'd learn about it then. Over the pandemic I started watching the local evening tea time news and I was amazed how many actors from the soaps, etc, are involved with charities. And I don't mean paid appearances and international travel for big charities. Just the boring nitty gritty of raising money for local charities that they are patrons for by visiting, getting their hands dirty helping out, attending fundraising events and shaking collection boxes.
Nothing against Meghan, I really appreciate that she gave up her time to help (- although I think there should be less actors parading through the UN and more helping needy local charities doing unglamorous but much needed work). I just don't think it's right to make sweeping statements that other actors don't do charity work when you would have said the same about Meghan if she hadn't met Harry.
And, nothing tondo with Meghan but One Young World is just a networking organisation where both the organisers and keynote speakers get paid a lot of money. They don't actually do anything. It's not really charity as we would recognise it. I'm sure Meghan must have done a lot more worthy things than that?

Exactly. I do not feel any sympathy for this family. They've been doing interviews and making nasty comments since BEFORE Meghan married Harry. Why would Meghan want anything to do with them? They're deranged.

I'm not sure why people feel sorry f9r Thomas at all. Any other person with these same issues would be told to cut these people off.

I felt very sorry for her family, tbh. I also can't get my head around Harry being 'OK' with Meghan saying she has lost and is grieving for her father, with his history. It also confirmed to me that Meghan is ruthless and all about her 'brand'. I couldn't help but think that if her father/siblings had been more photogenic or wealthy, that she might not have jettisoned them. The way Harry described her father in the exerpt from Spare 'stomach hanging over his belt [...] carrying a six pack' is pretty vile.

My other thought is if your relationships keep breaking down and you are the common denominator, not everyone you meet can be an arsehole, there is obviously something in the way she handles relationships that is problematic.

I felt very sorry for her family, tbh

The family who did blackface to mock her? You feel sorry for racists being rejected 🤔

Do you have a link re the blackface? I have never seen anything like that reported. I refer you to my final point:

if your relationships keep breaking down and you are the common denominator, not everyone you meet can be an arsehole, there is obviously something in the way she handles relationships that is problematic.

I also find it very suspicious that there were no longterm as in childhood/teenage friends at the wedding

don’t think it's right to make sweeping statements that other actors don't do charity work when you….

But that’s not what I said. I said more than most which most people would understand.

Perhaps you can look up her charity work that she did before she met Harry. It might explain why it seemed churlish to say that her interest in this post Harry was her play acting at philanthropy.

@Whaeanui do you have a link re black face? Google gives me nothing

I did not invite any childhood or teenage friends to my post elopement knees up - this is hardly unusual.

Yet she invited a load of folks who said they barely knew them? It was hardly the same as an elopement either. It was highly unusual.