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The markel family interview

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IamSuperTired · 30/04/2023 14:39

Anyone know how/where I can watch it? :) I think it's on today ....

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PicturesOfDogs · 01/05/2023 17:23

Rockybooboo · 01/05/2023 17:18

I took the sentence from the last but one of your post.

You wrote it.

‘So she’s saying she found it hard to see the security and title questions as compartmentalised from the skin tone comments. Oprah asked was it because of his race, and she didn’t say ‘no, I don’t think that’ she just said these conversations were happening ‘in tandem’, which is the insinuation that they were related to each other’

As I said, you didn’t read it properly

tatalan · 01/05/2023 17:24

Now where did this lie that Meghan was abandoned by Doria stem from?

Of course you feel sorry for her Father and insinuate that Doria does not deserve a relationship with Meghan. Typical.

@IamSuperTired humour me, why should Meghan reconcile with her Father who has, on multiple occasions appeared on YouTube channels promoting conspiracy theories about Meghan using surrogates, dolls as kids, being mocking and hateful towards her?

I've not gotten into all the names he's called her and Harry, his creepy sense of ownership over her, his entitlement. He is a sick, vile and nasty men. Meghan did well to cut him off.

Rockybooboo · 01/05/2023 17:37

PicturesOfDogs · 01/05/2023 17:23

‘So she’s saying she found it hard to see the security and title questions as compartmentalised from the skin tone comments. Oprah asked was it because of his race, and she didn’t say ‘no, I don’t think that’ she just said these conversations were happening ‘in tandem’, which is the insinuation that they were related to each other’

As I said, you didn’t read it properly

Oh yeah. But she still didn't accuse the family of being racist. She still said she struggled to.compartmentalize the 3 conversations.

PicturesOfDogs · 01/05/2023 17:43

Rockybooboo · 01/05/2023 17:37

Oh yeah. But she still didn't accuse the family of being racist. She still said she struggled to.compartmentalize the 3 conversations.

Yes, that’s what insinuate means.

She didn’t outright say it, but she insinuated the three things were related.

That’s what people said. Not sure where the issue is?

Rockybooboo · 01/05/2023 17:50

PicturesOfDogs · 01/05/2023 17:43

Yes, that’s what insinuate means.

She didn’t outright say it, but she insinuated the three things were related.

That’s what people said. Not sure where the issue is?

But insinuation is for interpretation.It's not fact.

the thing is as I found out today, the RoyAl family are exempt from the Equalities Act so even if they blatantly racist then they're not going into be in trouble.

MamoruHisaishi · 01/05/2023 17:52

What bothers me about the claim of racism that Meghan supposedly experienced in the hands of the royal family is that Meghan herself denies this. From her own interview:

By her own analysis, her problems stemmed from her being an American, not necessarily a Black American, she explains.

Also, just like her dad she's not averse to making (veiled) threats herself, because how else to interpret this weird message in the end:

“It’s interesting, I’ve never had to sign anything that restricts me from talking,” she reveals, as she ushers me toward the door. “I can talk about my whole experience and make a choice not to.” Why doesn’t she talk? “Still healing,” she responds.
I wonder if, given all she’s put behind her now, she thinks there is room for forgiveness between her and her royal in-laws and her own family.
“I think forgiveness is really important. It takes a lot more energy to not forgive,” she says wisely. “But it takes a lot of effort to forgive. I’ve really made an active effort, especially knowing that I can say anything,” she says, her voice full of meaning. And then she is silent. She breathes in and smiles and breathes out and says, “I have a lot to say until I don’t. Do you like that? Sometimes, as they say, the silent part is still part of the song.”

https://www.thecut.com/article/meghan-markle-profile-interview.html

Meghan of Montecito

She’s left the Firm behind. Harry’s found a polo team in Santa Barbara. The kids are doing great. Now she’s ready for her own next act.

https://www.thecut.com/article/meghan-markle-profile-interview.html

Howsimplywonderful · 01/05/2023 17:55

Rockybooboo · 01/05/2023 17:50

But insinuation is for interpretation.It's not fact.

the thing is as I found out today, the RoyAl family are exempt from the Equalities Act so even if they blatantly racist then they're not going into be in trouble.

That’s the Trump defence too 😀

too funny

MrsMaxDeWinter · 01/05/2023 17:58

@IamSuperTired

Do you mind explaining this:

Don't know why she is still in touch with Doria when she abandoned her for several years of her life, yet can't bring herself to talk to her father, who has loved her and supported her

What do you mean when you say Doria abandoned her for several years. Which years were these, and what do you mean by abandoned? Isn't it normal that when parents divorce, they come to amicable arrangements on children moving between their houses. Why do you use the word abandoned in this context?

Are you perhaps confusing Doria with Samantha Markle who did not raise her own children and they were adopted and raised by two lots of grandparents (none of whom was Thomas)?

Rockybooboo · 01/05/2023 17:58

Howsimplywonderful · 01/05/2023 17:55

That’s the Trump defence too 😀

too funny

Sorry what's the Trump.defence?

Rockybooboo · 01/05/2023 18:00

MamoruHisaishi · 01/05/2023 17:52

What bothers me about the claim of racism that Meghan supposedly experienced in the hands of the royal family is that Meghan herself denies this. From her own interview:

By her own analysis, her problems stemmed from her being an American, not necessarily a Black American, she explains.

Also, just like her dad she's not averse to making (veiled) threats herself, because how else to interpret this weird message in the end:

“It’s interesting, I’ve never had to sign anything that restricts me from talking,” she reveals, as she ushers me toward the door. “I can talk about my whole experience and make a choice not to.” Why doesn’t she talk? “Still healing,” she responds.
I wonder if, given all she’s put behind her now, she thinks there is room for forgiveness between her and her royal in-laws and her own family.
“I think forgiveness is really important. It takes a lot more energy to not forgive,” she says wisely. “But it takes a lot of effort to forgive. I’ve really made an active effort, especially knowing that I can say anything,” she says, her voice full of meaning. And then she is silent. She breathes in and smiles and breathes out and says, “I have a lot to say until I don’t. Do you like that? Sometimes, as they say, the silent part is still part of the song.”

https://www.thecut.com/article/meghan-markle-profile-interview.html

So she still.hasn't accused the RoyAl family of being racist?

Rockybooboo · 01/05/2023 18:01

Howsimplywonderful · 01/05/2023 17:55

That’s the Trump defence too 😀

too funny

I meant to put not fact.

MamoruHisaishi · 01/05/2023 18:03

The Cut interview was meant to show Meghan in a good light, she even supposedly chose the writer who interviewed her, but she came across as inauthentic and kinda delusional (I mean mentioning that bit about how someone told her that south Africans celebrated her marriage like when Nelson Mandela was freed, what made her think that was a good idea?), the rest of it was also cringe, like the whole salt and pepper thing moving together. This has nothing to do with racism or the royal family, this is just based on her interview alone.

tatalan · 01/05/2023 18:07

@MamoruHisaishi that Cut profile was not it, I can agree with that 😅

MamoruHisaishi · 01/05/2023 18:11

Rockybooboo · 01/05/2023 18:00

So she still.hasn't accused the RoyAl family of being racist?

The problem is she did, via her Oprah interview. Supposedly racist comments made against her child. I read the passage where the dark skin claim was mentioned and she never denied what Oprah said. She said it was a safe assumption when Oprah said there were concerns about how dark the skin of her child would be. That to me is admitting there was outright racism. The letter to Charles supposedly admits that it wasn't racist nor malicious but just unconscious bias, and of course this interview she says it wasn't due to racism but xenophobia because she was an American.

Rockybooboo · 01/05/2023 18:15

MamoruHisaishi · 01/05/2023 18:03

The Cut interview was meant to show Meghan in a good light, she even supposedly chose the writer who interviewed her, but she came across as inauthentic and kinda delusional (I mean mentioning that bit about how someone told her that south Africans celebrated her marriage like when Nelson Mandela was freed, what made her think that was a good idea?), the rest of it was also cringe, like the whole salt and pepper thing moving together. This has nothing to do with racism or the royal family, this is just based on her interview alone.

So what.. You don't like her you don't have to. You

mixedrecycling · 01/05/2023 18:20

StormzyinaTCup · 01/05/2023 16:45

Well that would certainly explain why they can only manage one hour a week of work - sounds exhausting!🤣

Indeed!

MamoruHisaishi · 01/05/2023 18:23

Rockybooboo · 01/05/2023 18:15

So what.. You don't like her you don't have to. You

No need to be so touchy? I just merely said the Cut interview was meant to show her in a good light, but it backfired on her. This had nothing to do with racist press or unfriendly royals. This was Meghan as she wanted to present herself, but that person comes across as unlikeable and inauthentic. Not saying she hasn't experienced racism but my point is not all the people who dislike her are racist, if the interview is a reflection of who she is as a person, she doesn't come across as likeable or relatable.

tatalan · 01/05/2023 18:23

The illiteracy in this thread is mind boggling. One hour a week is the standard amount that non-profits disclose for board participation, that's it.

mixedrecycling · 01/05/2023 18:24

skullbabe · 01/05/2023 16:53

You cannot have unconscious bias without racism and so although it sounds softer - it really is the same thing.

Prince William’s grandfather arguably was racist so it is a stretch to say the family was not racist - especially as said grandfather was very much still alive at the time.

The conversation about Archie’s race was happening in conjunction with discussions about Archie’s status - the royal family is trying to slim down due to concerns about the burden on the public purse and therefore this conversation is part of matters concerning the Head of State.

Harry repeated their private ceremony story in Spare - make of that what you will that he included that after the significant amount of chatter that story raised here on MN and elsewhere when Meghan recounted it.

And yet Harry's grand father (and grand mother) were both explicitly cleared of racist remarks by Harry within days of the interview

Rockybooboo · 01/05/2023 18:29

MamoruHisaishi · 01/05/2023 18:23

No need to be so touchy? I just merely said the Cut interview was meant to show her in a good light, but it backfired on her. This had nothing to do with racist press or unfriendly royals. This was Meghan as she wanted to present herself, but that person comes across as unlikeable and inauthentic. Not saying she hasn't experienced racism but my point is not all the people who dislike her are racist, if the interview is a reflection of who she is as a person, she doesn't come across as likeable or relatable.

Well yeah I don't l what I've seen of Charles and Camilla and I suppose people assume I'm anti monarchy, but if Anne was Queen, I'd be in full celebration this week.

skullbabe · 01/05/2023 18:32

mixedrecycling · 01/05/2023 18:24

And yet Harry's grand father (and grand mother) were both explicitly cleared of racist remarks by Harry within days of the interview

What is the point of this sentence in the context of what I said? A known racist was not the one to ask about skin colour and what?

mixedrecycling · 01/05/2023 18:32

I was living in SA when H&M got married. In frequent contact with DD's birth family/community (black, Cape Town).

H&M's wedding was a non-event for everyone we know/knew.

MamoruHisaishi · 01/05/2023 18:33

skullbabe · 01/05/2023 16:53

You cannot have unconscious bias without racism and so although it sounds softer - it really is the same thing.

Prince William’s grandfather arguably was racist so it is a stretch to say the family was not racist - especially as said grandfather was very much still alive at the time.

The conversation about Archie’s race was happening in conjunction with discussions about Archie’s status - the royal family is trying to slim down due to concerns about the burden on the public purse and therefore this conversation is part of matters concerning the Head of State.

Harry repeated their private ceremony story in Spare - make of that what you will that he included that after the significant amount of chatter that story raised here on MN and elsewhere when Meghan recounted it.

Except Meghan and harry don't seem to think it's the same thing, otherwise why would they deny that they accused the family of racism after the Oprah interview? Why would Meghan’s own Cut interview deny that it was racism she experienced, rather it was xenophobia because she was an American?

Prince William’s grandfather arguably was racist so it is a stretch to say the family was not racist - especially as said grandfather was very much still alive at the time.

Harry denied it was his grandfather who made the comment. And the only other person in the royal family who is known to have made racist remarks is Harry himself.

skullbabe · 01/05/2023 18:33

mixedrecycling · 01/05/2023 18:32

I was living in SA when H&M got married. In frequent contact with DD's birth family/community (black, Cape Town).

H&M's wedding was a non-event for everyone we know/knew.

But not for my community - similar demographic. Interesting isn’t it.

mixedrecycling · 01/05/2023 18:34

skullbabe · 01/05/2023 18:32

What is the point of this sentence in the context of what I said? A known racist was not the one to ask about skin colour and what?

The 2 members of the RF recorded to make racist remarks were PP (cleared of racism by H&M 😂) and Harry - not only the Nazi uniform but also calling a colleague a Pi and rag