The markel family interview

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Anyone know how/where I can watch it? :) I think it's on today ....

It's good. Royalists would avoid threads discussing these difficult truths.

I agree with 99% of what you say! But I don't agree that supporters of the RF think they are 'good and worthy' - they are human beings. And the last thing we need following Brexit is another huge, divisive and damaging constitutional change.

Then why can't we criticise them?

It's good. Royalists would avoid threads discussing these difficult truths.

Or a derail to divert from awkward discussions about how similar Meghan is to her Markle relatives and how Harry and Meghan's own behavior is responsible for their poor public image?

And the last thing we need following Brexit is another huge, divisive and damaging constitutional change.

I agree with this

My grandparents and their generation (including my feisty great-aunt Hilda!) were working class. The Jarrow March mattered to them. They grew up with frost on the inside of the window in their bedroom, and went to bed hungry. They left school as soon as legally allowed, to contribute to the family income.

The idea that everyone in the UK was living in luxury from the colonies just isn't true. It's far more complex

Good point!

The Markles are clearly a massively dysfunctional family and imo Meghan was clearly embarrassed of them all hence not allowing Harry to meet dad prior to the wedding in case he was shocked and it gave him doubts. ( I don’t think it would have done as he is/ was besotted, but I understand why Meghan might have been worried)
makes the Windsors look positively wholesome and United in comparison.

Of course you can criticise them! But not for failing to be 'good and worthy'. If they don't fulfil their constitutional role then by all means criticise them. Just as if I don't fulfil my JD I will be criticised by my manager

Or a derail to divert from awkward discussions about how similar Meghan is to her Markle relatives and how Harry and Meghan's own behavior is responsible for their poor public image?

Exactly.
Ironically a poster derailing on here has their own thread running and is not shy in handing anyone their arse on a plate if there is even a sniff of a derail😁.

@Quokkasarecutest

did you see my post, directed to you?

Do you mean the question about her siblings? I wouldn't expect her to have a relationship with them, no. They seem pretty yuck. But from what I have seen and read, Meghan has treated her dad badly. That's my impression.

I also think that Meghan has been deliberately creating drama, fuelling Harry's insecurities/jealousies of his brother and telling untruths about the RF to make money. So basically she and her sister seem very alike.

Meghan seems to have a winner takes all mindset, if she can't have absolutely everything her own way, she's out of there.

Hows it a good point? Its gossip. I would say that the vast majority are indifferent to Meghan because she has np relevance to their lives. She doesnt cost them anything, she has hardly appeared in public but to introduce someone at an award show. The people who despise them publicly are Piers, Jeremy, all the GNB who i happen to think are vile. People say that Meghan is only famous because of The Royals so why not discuss them on topics abput her.

More people are pissed off about the cost of the coromation.

So you dont want us to avoid discussing the Royal Family for not being 'good and worthy' but Meghan is human too so why do you join in with the bitchfest.

How donyou know whats in her mind? She left because she was getting abuse. Do you think women shpuld have to put up misoginistc abuse and cut ties?

Yes and it was the establishment that created that. The same one the big parade is about on Saturday.

Of course! But times move on.

I don't feel responsible for what the UK gvnt did over a century ago, so it wouldn't be consistent to hold Charles to what his great grand father did.

@sashagabadon Windsors are just as dysfunctional, they have money is all. We don't know whether Thomas wasn't allowed to meet with Harry or if Thomas himself was being difficult, Harry met Doria so I doubt Thomas would be out of the question. He chose to pull out of the wedding, and Meghan learnt of that through TMZ, I can't image how devastating that must have been.

It hasn't changed. We've still got a really expensive coronation whilst people are visiting foodbanks. We've got a housing crisis and yet how many houses does this person live in. He doesn't live with Camilla but she could live at the opposite end of one of his homes and never see him!

@Rockybooboo this is a nation of serfs I fear, they are far more outraged by anything H&M do than a coronation in the cost of a living crisis 😅

I did not derail, the thread had already and @mixedrecycling has had more to do with that than anyone, this is who I was engaging with. If the OP had asked us to go back to the topic, I would have no issue with it.

Or a derail to divert from awkward discussions about how similar Meghan is to her Markle relatives

I honestly can’t comprehend this comment, you’re actually thinking Meghan’s comments about the institution she was in, is the same as what the OP has posted? What her half siblings and father have done? You’re comparing her words to their black face and conspiracies about her children? Righto.

I know her own family being overtly racist towards her. Saying 4 year old Archie and 2 year old Lillibet are fake.

The equivalent would be Meghan putting a pair of big ears on it saying Prince George isn't really Williams. Really personal insulting stuff.

One thing to bear in mind is in relation to the RF we have only heard H & Ms version of events. It’s easy to criticise the RF without having heard their version.

I also think there is a lot of taking what the media says as fact and not critically assessing it. The media are racist and misogynistic, they like to create division and disagreement. Yes, they were racist about Meghan (and many others over the decades) and the spin they put on any story will come from that background. That doesn’t mean the RF are racist.

There is also the cultural differences between US and UK. Plus the fact Harry clearly did not prepare Meghan.

Of course it is all my fault 😂 I didn't raise the issue of the - what was it called - treaty? And Maori oppression?

I did say democratic nations choosing to be part of the Commonwealth wasn't for me to say they shouldn't.