Is Camilla the first previously divorced Queen?

[Munchies7]

I recall from the time of Charles and Camilla's wedding that we were told she would be Queen Consort and not Queen. I believe this was a way of appeasing the people who were displeased at the way Charles treated Diana. I'm wondering if Camilla is the first divorced Queen.

Which monarch changed [something] to allow divorce?

"Not all of the UK follows the NC."

No, but about 90% must have access to TV, books or magazines. That's where most of our general knowledge comes from anyway. We didn't do WWI at school, but I've obviously heard about it.

Of course there are whole chunks of Scottish history that cannot be taught without reference to English History - mainly because we were at war a lot of the time.

I went through school lots of history lessons avoided all the Scotland / England stuff.

Lots of ancient history on Romans, Egyptians, Vikings, Plague, Fire of London.
I was in my 20s when a passing comment on what was under the flower beds at Dunfermline Abbey enlightened me to the Plague affecting people outside London (a mass grave of plague victims)!

I found history teaching very piecemeal at school - we did touch on the Tudors but not in any great depth and GCSE history was all industrial revolution.

Jean Plaidy introduced me to a lot of history and we are lucky there is quite a bit of good history TV shows on UK TV and then I've read fair few books on various times and people. I was also in family that did days out at historical sites and have married into a family who does similar so our kids have also lots of experiences of castles, historical sites, museums.

I've seen quite a few politicians say we should focus less on the Tudors and more on the English civil war because it changed the relationship between crown and parliament and affected the relationship between the UK constituent countries.

I'd never heard of the Chartists till I moved to Wales - I knew they'd been voting reform and there must have been demand to do so - but never heard of the movement.

@diflasu

My history teacher at school said the first rule of history is question your source

And you believe you are the only one taught that?

Parliament holds the most power (and ultimately I suspect eventually all of it) - so knowing how it works, how we got to that point and how people affected change to shift power is probably fairly important and yes I image politicians who work in it will be most passionate about it - that's fairly obvious.

I take in information for a variety of sources and know about biases - having come across many of your posts I frankly astonished you feel able to lecture others about this.

Ha! I certainly don't think it's new

But questioning source of the information is not something I see her very often !

@diflasu
Parliament holds MOST power??
Whatever do you mean ?
Where do you think the rest is ?

I grew up in two different Commonwealth countries and moved to England at 26. The Tudors were not covered in primary, secondary, or university level courses. The only British history we studied was related to imperialism, colonialism, freedom struggles etc as that was the only part relevant to my country. Ironically, my understanding is that this aspect of British history is not covered in UK schools in any kind of depth.

However, I like historical fiction so I knew all about the Tudors from a young age. There is no shortage of films about them either!

I'm in Wales - lived in wales during covid found out just how much influence Welsh parliament and first minister had over our lives.

The crown holds some - though I'd say most of it's behind the scenes now, obviously

Welsh Government mainly in health and education huge things for us - and then Scottish parliamnet similar - (N.I is a another case though no one sitting at moment)

Then there are many quangos - though there is supposed to be governmental oversight.

Local council hold fair few - where I grew up there was a parish council as well.
https://cdalc.info/parish-councils/what-is-a-parish-council/powers-and-duties/. Again council decisions do affect our daily lives quite a bit. Local planning authorities - part of council can be pretty powerful as well locally.

Elected police commissioners have power to set the police and crime objectives for their area through a police and crime plan, set the force budget and determine the precept (a council tax charge for policing) contribute to the national and international policing capabilities set out by the home secretary. We have one but still have a poor local force.

I adored Jean Plaidy books too!

P3 to 5, we did Scottish History and then British/European History from P6 onwards.

@TrashyPanda roughly when we're you in primary?

I was early '80s and only covered ancient stuff.

Quite ironic that you mention Welsh politics Diflasu and then parish councils. We don't have parish councils in Wales any more, they're called community councils where they still exist.

I named my daughter after Eleanor of Aquitaine! A strong and independent woman, I grew up near one of her crosses

Eleanor crosses are actually after Eleanor of Castile. Married to Edward 1st for decades, a pretty good egg by all accounts.

Eleanor of Aquitaine is defo the first divorced Queen. That annulment business was total bobbins 😀 can't believe they got away with it tbh.

I live in a Welsh city so was unaware of any community councils as they don't really affect me.

Parish councils were on my mind because my mother, living in the English village she raised me in, was on the phone to me talking about their one and a transport/road building issue that is causing her upset.

I am really sorry if my post was confusing there as I was talking about power in the UK in response to another poster questioning why I don't think is all in the UK parliament trying to give examples. I wasn't trying to suggest Wales has parish councils more searching for examples where power to affect everyday lives isn't all residing in Westminster parliament.

Still I googled to learn more and found Isle of Wight also seems to have Community Council and more expectedly having read your post a nearby Welsh town to us - clearly there are huge gaps in my knowledge of local governance across sections of the UK I haven't directly live in yet.

Eleanor of Aquitaine was the first and only "divorced" queen before Camilla although there have been a number of widowed ones. We've also had a number of "divorced" Kings, John, Henry VIII and George 1 & IV - all depending on what your interpretation of Divorce is of course.

I was a witness for a Catholic annulment. Got interviewed by a lawyer and had to do a witness statement. It was very interesting.