Kate - walkabout with Harry & Meghan after Queen’s death one of the hardest things she’d done.

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Thought she’d shot daggers at Meghan when she got out of the car!

Wonder why that was?

That was before the Netflix doc and Spare release as well.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-11949903/amp/Kate-says-Windsor-walkabout-Harry-Meghan-hardest-thing-do.html

Coincidence this is being published now before H&M confirm if they’re going to accept the invite to the coronation?

NO.

She has had racism directed at her since their relationship was made public. What had she done then? Nothing. What has she actually done since? A few missteps does not justify the volume of hate directed at her, far more than Harry, since before Oprah or Netflix. She did those things in response to the vile hate she had been receiving, at no time was it greater than when she wasn’t seen for almost a year. You can keep saying it isn’t about race, but it absolutely is. Along with her sex, and the fact she’s American. Any American would have had a hard time, but a black American also had racism and there’s no way any person can say she hasn’t been subject to it unless they’re racist themselves. On this very thread there were attacks on Doria who has done NOTHING AT ALL to deserve them, while excuses are made for her father who tried to blackmail her.

Im not a Meghan fan, never watched suits. I’m biracial and that’s why I defend her against this shit. Because I fucking live it too.

Before she married Harry, she had comments in the press about her mother being "straight outta Compton" her "exotic DNA" being compared to the Windsors "pale skin and blue blood", she was even called a "black sheep" ffs, and more besides. It was absolutely disgusting and I cannot believe it's legal.

Still, it's true she had more public support around the time of the wedding...but then she stopped being pleasing. And the backlash goes far, far beyond anything she ever did "wrong".

Those same posters who keep saying race has nothing to do with any of this, are part of the wider problem. There have been some excellent posts on here, explaining how her heritage has been such an issue for some people. Yet some posters are still refusing to see it mainly for what it is. Picklebowl mentioned using racism as a "Top Trumps win". I have no words. Unbelievable.

The race based coverage started even BEFORE she married Harry, before she had the engagement interview, before she said a word. How do you explain headlines like "straight outta Compton" etc, even before she opened her mouth?

They did not receive "overwhelming support" sorry, that is a rewriting of history. The first public action Harry made was to defend Meghan against press coverage that had racial overtones.

On the actual wedding day, there were, I kid you not, 11 000 comments on the Daily Mail comment pages, most of the negative. Many saying, there is just something about her I don't like Feel fret look, it's all still there.

In 2017, after the engagement was announced, I wrote to Mumsnet, under my first user name, to complain about the racial overtones in the commentary here, right here on Mumsnet, which was mainly negative. Mumsnet told m that there was not much they could do about it. I left the site, and only came back in the last year or so.

There was a lot of positive coverage in the US, yes, and in Commonwealth countries, and among young people in the UK, especially teens and twenties who are more diverse in how they see the world.

But those sections go the UK that are not racially diverse, like UK royalists, Daily Mail and other tabloid readers, and Mumsnetters as a majority definitely had problems with Meghan from the very first. Even before Meghan said a word.

Gosh, sorry for terrible typos, typed without glasses!!

But I guess using race is what Meghan fans perceive as a Top Trumps win. I am suspicious of this heartfelt concern when the same posters are eager to absolve Harry for things he’s said.

This deserves responding to on its own. You are speaking to people of colour who have taken the time to explain why and how racism played its part. You do realise that? You’ve just said this disgusting remark to black and brown women? Do you have any idea how revolting this comment is? Nobody absolved Harry. The thread about him was about something he did when he was 8. Prince Philip has a long list of racist comments and not one of the Harry & Meghan detractors spend 1/10th of the time commenting on that as they do his comments he’s addressed and is ashamed of. How dare you compare our anti racism advocacy to Trump.

But I guess using race is what Meghan fans perceive as a Top Trumps win.

Holy fucking shit.

Ahh what kind of game? Who is playing games? So not like Trump, like a game? Ffs not sure which is worse tbh this isn’t a game for black and brown people

How is it winning anything to have to point out racism and the fucked up life people of colour have dealing with it?

Top Trumps is a card game where characters on cards have scores for various traits and whoever has the highest score for the trait being compared wins the round.

The poster is essentially accusing people of, to use the common phrase, "using the race card" to shut down dissent. In other words, she's saying there's no racism, we're just pretending there is.

Picklebawl might as well have just said that people are playing the race card. That is what they mean. I think that it speaks volumes, people who say things in that vein.

Exactly@ReneBumsWombats . At least I know not to waste any time on that poster.

@LadyKenya well it’s a new poster or a NCer so probably won’t be here long, just enough time to tell black and brown women they’re using the race card 😐

Yep, and it is sooo tedious@Whaeanui

Exactly and if one reads the comments from readers below the articles, they are quite an eye opener. Never mind some of what is on youtube (quite disgusting and ridiculous), something I often browse if I cannot sleep though have now given up watching stuff about Meghan and Harry.

I would like to know precisely what Meghan has actually said and done which is wrong. Though I doubt that matters, so many people like to think the worst of anyone in the spotlight, they positively relish it, and choose to believe what they hear regardless of how outlandish it is.

It's pretty awful when people accuse black and brown people of exploiting racism for their own ends. Like racism is actually a tool for them.

I mean, if that were what was happening, don't you think they'd be getting better outcomes? It all still looks pretty stacked against them to me.

It's probably not the most egregious example, but one that sticks in my mind from here was after Harry laid a poppy wreath for Remembrance Day. Meghan was in the background of the photo and someone on here was sniffy that she was hijacking the occasion and making it all about herself because she was in the picture and "all wrapped up in a black coat".

Not the worst thing that's been said but it did stick with me. Meghan attends a Remembrance Day wreath laying with Harry and wears a black coat. Fucking bitch!

Some of the attacks on Meghan have bordered on the insane, in their intensity, and reasoning.

👏👏You have finally succeeded in turning the thread into a circle jerk where you have bullied the last dissidents off the thread. You can all relax now and echo one another's opinions while in the big, wide world, Harry and Meghan's popularity remains on the floor.

Yawn.

Keep telling yourself that. Happy to have challenged the racist comments and denial of racism.

Yes, I gave up. They do this every time on most RF threads. They live in their own echo chamber. As you say, the rest of the world have seen through the pair of narcissists and their popularity has bombed. Apparently some people can see through the superficial charm of the narcissist and recognise fake, whereas others (more gullible people) are taken in.

Obviously several gullible folk posting here.

That did not take too long did it? I will happily ignore certain posters from now on. They are not worth the effort.