Archewell only had two donors

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Interesting to see that Archewell donations were 99% made up of donations from just TWO one-off donors, one of £10M and one of £3M.
Speculation that this was £10M from Oprah for the interview and £3M from Tyler.

This doesn't look very sustainable to me.

The family gained off the back of lies on Meghan, in their reputation.

The tabloids made millions off of that.

Harry is setting the record straight and you could say, he is gaining from setting the record straight.

Maybe the 'family' could have corrected the stories and not fed lies to the tabloids.
They they won't feel 'trashed' when the truth comes out. Maybe they should not have 'trashed' MM by briefing lies about her.

Trying to say the tabloids didn’t make a fuck tonne of money from Harry and Meghan is s bit silly. Of course they did, still do, including by some of them writing their own books about him.
Harry isn’t making money ‘off family connections’ ( although lots of people do that as part of life, including non titled royals ). He is a member of the family. It’s his life. Fergie wrote a book post divorce too. The largest section of the book was about his war experiences.

So he deserves to earn many millions for doing this does he? 🤔. Bit tenuous. And as for setting the record straight, that’s even more tenuous 😂

@smilesy supply and demand. He didn't force the publishers to make him an offer, did he? And he didn't force the public to buy his book either.

Why do you care what a private company paid him? Whether other people chose to spend their money on his book? At least he’s not cutting ribbons for taxpayer money.

I don’t care. My original post was in reply to you (I think) in relation to Harry making money just because he is a member of the RF as opposed to Charles just because of the same thing. Then pp came along and turned this into Harry making money from his book because the tabloids had made money out of him. I was struggling to understand the logic of that is all.

@smilesy you said Well the King can’t help being the King either so he can’t help being in a position to receive obscene amounts of money as you put it
He could leave the monarchy, he could also change the rules around how much he received from the sovereign grant, it has only existed since 2011. The difference is the King receives money and assets from the public plus exemptions from some laws. He isn’t just earning his own money, as Harry now is.

@smilesy Yes there are several people here who would have an argument in an empty room. Their tactic is to deflect away from the actual topic and make it about someone else.

eg Harry is a turd for making millions washing his dirty laundry in public, becomes, the media also make money from them. You're right, it makes no sense at all.

The original point was that Charles was in a position to make “obscene” amounts
of money. Because he is who is is. And I pointed out that Harry was in the same position. Because he is who is is. That was all I was trying to say. And then somehow Harry is some sort of hero taking revenge on the tabloids by writing a book. Which is errant nonsense because the tabloids then made more money by printing the click bait bits of said book. All this is a long way from my point that both Harry and Charles are only in the position to make loads of money becausethey are members of the RF. whatever the rights and wrongs of that.

Yes there are several people here who would have an argument in an empty room. oh the irony!

@smilesy this is actually your reply to me, which differs from your last comment quite a bit:
But what made his story worth the huge amount of money he got for it? I bet I know people with much more interesting stories than his who would never command those fees. He simply got them because of his Royal connection. Yes it’s different to the sovereign grant, but why does Harry need that amount of money if he wants to live as a private citizen? The Royals get the lifestyle and money they get because, rightly or wrongly, they are members of a certain family and live in their gilded cage. Harry chose to leave. What has he done to deserve the huge amount of money he got for his book, Netflix documentary etc? I’m not suggesting he should wear sack cloth and live in a cave, but he had enough money for a comfortable lifestyle. Why does he need to live in a huge house for example? What does it add to his life other than outward show?

You were questioning why he needs that kind of money? Security for one. But your comment is really hypocritical given that the royals don’t ‘need’ all of that wealth either.

@purpledalmation we were discussing the topic of the thread no problem until someone else asked why Harry didn’t donate all his money from his deals.

You are correct. No one “needs”that sort of wealth. I suppose what I mean is that Charles, by virtue of being King, cannot avoid the wealth that is offered to him (unless he abdicates etc), whereas Harry has, for example, chosen to live in a very, large expensive house when he didn’t have to, and can equally only do this because he uses his Royal connection. At least those members of the Royal family are still doing ( again brightly or wrongly) what is expected of them as members of that family. Harry chose to leave yet still seems to want to live with the same amount of wealth and off the back of an institution he professes to dislike. Anyway we are going round in circles now.

@smilesy I find your reasoning that it’s ok for them to be wealthy ( much more than Harry ) but not him to be unreasonable. If you’re a royalist I guess you think it’s ok for just that family to be wealthy and special, but nobody else. Makes no sense to me. The security needs of Harry and his family means he can’t just live anywhere.

Well that does seem to clarify it.

Doesn't take a genius.

The tabloids made talking about him a million pound industry. So, he will gain when he answers back, naturally. They will try to twist his words to make even more money.

Bottom line, he gets his story and answers out there.

Why should the papers make all this money on lies and he cannot correct the story ? That is the logic.

But what made his story worth the huge amount of money he got for it?

Is it really that hard to understand? You live in a capitalist society. Do you not read much, or know much about which memoirs and autobiographies get published with huge advances? It surely isn't news to you that publishers will pay huge money for stories by people they think are noteworthy, and that will sell? His story was worth a lot of money, and his book broke all sales records precisely BECAUSE he is Prince Harry. He is part of a family that is known around the world for no reason than that they are "blood royals", and, for generations, has been the one family in the entire United Kingdom apparently decreed by God from which the UK draws its monarchs. He was born famous, is famous, and will always be famous.

There are other royal families, but none with the kind of drama of the Windsors. They are a hugely enjoyable soap opera whose lives fascinate and are dissected by millions. Just look at the success of The Crown. Why do you think it's the most expensive drama ever made?

Add to that, Harry as himself has a compelling story, from losing his mother in a horrifically public way, to fighting in an actual war, and finding happiness by marrying a woman of mixed race in a family that is not known to be racially diverse, then the shock move of giving up everything he knew for a different life. It's a compelling, gripping story.

It also helps that he is not a bland, dull robot , but is messy, messed up, flawed, while being likeable and warm, which makes him very human and certainly more relatable than many of his family members.

And damn straight he should make money from his own story. Other people make money from him. and his wife. Entire careers have been made off his back. There is a whole industry around him and his wife. Why the hell shouldn't he make as much money as he can from his own story, but others should?

Why does he need to live in a huge house for example?

Because he wants to, and can afford to? And perhaps because he and his wife, as testified to by a top intelligence officer, received alarming death threats, some racially motivated, and he therefore chose to live in one of the safest locales in the world, and houses there are not your standard three bedroom one bathroom houses? You are not paying for him or his family. Why does it bother you that he lives in a big house?

What does it add to his life other than outward show?

Perhaps he likes to rollerskate in doors? Or sleep in a different room each night? Why do you believe you are owed an explanation about why he lives in a big house? Many rich people live in huge houses. Do you obsess over their choices too? Or is it just Harry that bothers you? If so why?

Here endeth today's sermon😄

As I said, it's a public charity.

Brilliant post 👏👏

I can't believe posters are criticising what sort of house he lives in!

He can live where he wants. In a fuck off huge house if he wants. He pays for it.

And he can write about his life if he wants. It's a multi million (possibly billion) dollar industry writing about him and his wife. He can put the record straight if he wants, and make some money whilst he's at it. To pay for his security, house, family etc.

Well done him for leaving and not being muzzled by those who want him to shut up, go away, stop talking... yet who can't help but click endlessly on every article, every tweet, every thread on MN.

The ah letter that was posted, comes from Reddit ( interesting place with identical comments there to some here ) and is a private letter apparently so not sure sure how someone would get it… it also says ‘ Archewell Inc. ‘ which is not exclusively a non profit, so I can’t see how they would send a letter saying the whole thing was a public charity. I can’t see the source for that letter, can’t see it anywhere else. Just Reddit.

Also if you check the criteria to be deemed a public charity rather than private foundation, it doesn’t make sense as they don’t fit the bill
From IRS Website: Every exempt charitable organization is classified as either a public charity or a private foundation. Generally, organizations that are classified as public charities are those that (i) are churches, hospitals, qualified medical research organizations affiliated with hospitals, schools, colleges and universities, (ii) have an active program of fundraising and receive contributions from many sources, including the general public, governmental agencies, corporations, private foundations or other public charities, (iii) receive income from the conduct of activities in furtherance of the organization's exempt purposes, or (iv) actively function in a supporting relationship to one or more existing public charities. Private foundations, in contrast, typically have a single major source of funding (usually gifts from one family or corporation rather than funding from many sources) and most have as their primary activity the making of grants to other charitable organizations and to individuals, rather than the direct operation of charitable programs.

@Whaeanui

That makes sense, I did wonder how on earth a private letter could be public property, but as I was late to the thread did not want to jump in saying so. Why wouldn't the letter be able to be found elsewhere, if it was legit?

Surely it would be all over t'internet.

Same could be said for kate’s text messages which popped up
in the book

I found the source for that letter, a horrible website that has all kinds of crap on it. Not sure if I should post it.

@Cokefans what? You’re saying the texts were originally posted on Reddit? Huh? Harry & Meghan supplied them obviously.