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Archewell only had two donors

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Blip · 05/04/2023 21:50

Interesting to see that Archewell donations were 99% made up of donations from just TWO one-off donors, one of £10M and one of £3M.
Speculation that this was £10M from Oprah for the interview and £3M from Tyler.

This doesn't look very sustainable to me.

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Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 13:49

But what made his story worth the huge amount of money he got for it? Who he is. Should he not tell his story and just allow others to create false versions? He can’t help who his family is.

Iwasafool · 06/04/2023 13:53

notanotheroneagain · 06/04/2023 13:21

Once more, you as an individual, do not donate to Archewell !

Not to give them to distribute to other charities, nothing.

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So they don't have donations from individuals but 99% of their donations were from 2 individuals. George Orwell might have got the year wrong but double speak is definitely with us.

From the Express While the report did not include how much the Foundation had raised, royal author and correspondent Omid Scobie claimed the total donations in the organisation's first year of operation amounted to £10,740,340 ($13million).

Isn't Scobie the mouthpiece for them, why is he talking about donations?

MarshaMelrose · 06/04/2023 13:53

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 13:34

Because there is zero evidence of it and the filings and name show it’s a foundation. I don’t know how else to say it. The IRS classification is online and reads ‘charitable organisation’. That’s the tax category. It is NOT the same as classifying it as a charity. You cannot donate directly to it. Go and try. Come back when you’ve found the donate button. They have calls to action which encourage you to donate to actual charities, not to their foundation. Literally nobody anywhere is claiming it’s a charity not a foundation so I’m not sure why you are, or why it matters so much. If you’ve seen a letter, where did you see it?

There is evidence because I told you I've read it. It's a bit hurtful that you're calling me a liar.

I don't want to donate to Archewell. For a couple of reasons that I've documented quite well on several threads that have been about US charities - not really about Archewell. I've worked for a charity in the UK for many years and I'm interested in how they work differently here to the US. I don't have anything against Archewell and I've always supported Harry and Meghan in their charitable endeavours. You will not find one post of mine ever that criticises them doing work for charity. I've even stuck up for them on this thread. I just find that the donations seem circuitous between charities. Charities donate to other charities who then donate to other charities, each taking a cut on the way.

But you know if I was happy with that, I could donate to Archewell because... its a public charity.

And actually there are people claiming its a public charity - me and the IRS. If it's unimportant, why don't you believe me about the letter?

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 13:57

I think you just didn’t understand it. There’s nothing anywhere reclassifying it as a charity. I think you saw the classification that I saw, which says ‘charitable organisation’. You cannot donate to it. Like I said, go and try and show me that you can. Why would I just ‘believe you’ when all the evidence shows it as a foundation.

smilesy · 06/04/2023 14:01

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 13:49

But what made his story worth the huge amount of money he got for it? Who he is. Should he not tell his story and just allow others to create false versions? He can’t help who his family is.

Well the King can’t help being the King either so he can’t help being in a position to receive obscene amounts of money as you put it. And he has not pocketed this money, unlike Harry who has taken an equally obscene amount of money purely for being a member of the same family 🤷‍♀️

MarshaMelrose · 06/04/2023 14:04

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 13:57

I think you just didn’t understand it. There’s nothing anywhere reclassifying it as a charity. I think you saw the classification that I saw, which says ‘charitable organisation’. You cannot donate to it. Like I said, go and try and show me that you can. Why would I just ‘believe you’ when all the evidence shows it as a foundation.

Well, I guess being called thick is better than being called a liar. 😂😂😂 Joking, I know that's not how you meant it.

I'm not really that bothered about it all because it doesn't make that much difference in the grand scheme of things. However, if I managed to find the letter saying they were a public charity, would that merit an apology from you?

And you @notanotheroneagain , would you retract your claim that individuals can't donate?

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 14:07

Well the King can’t help being the King either so he can’t help being in a position to receive obscene amounts of money as you put it. And he has not pocketed this money, unlike Harry who has taken an equally obscene amount of money purely for being a member of the same family

Charles has pocketed quite a lot actually! Just not the amount above. As I say, he may have preempted what treasury was going to do anyway. He didn’t volunteer inheritance tax did he? Did he give up the sovereign grant without it being reported? No. They still have a lot of wealth.
I know Charles can’t help it… actually he could change the way it works now that he’s king and maybe he will? I’ve met him before. Nice man.

Divisionoflabour89 · 06/04/2023 14:07

smilesy · 06/04/2023 14:01

Well the King can’t help being the King either so he can’t help being in a position to receive obscene amounts of money as you put it. And he has not pocketed this money, unlike Harry who has taken an equally obscene amount of money purely for being a member of the same family 🤷‍♀️

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There’s always abdication Smilesy 😀

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 14:09

Why would I apologise? I’ve looked for what you claimed and what I found was an IRS classification document supporting what I said. I don’t think not just taking your claim at face value, one that conflicts with everything we know, merits an apology! Is it so wrong of me to believe what I’ve seen with my own eyes? But finding that donate button on their site shouldn’t take you long….

notanotheroneagain · 06/04/2023 14:18

MarshaMelrose · 06/04/2023 13:53

There is evidence because I told you I've read it. It's a bit hurtful that you're calling me a liar.

I don't want to donate to Archewell. For a couple of reasons that I've documented quite well on several threads that have been about US charities - not really about Archewell. I've worked for a charity in the UK for many years and I'm interested in how they work differently here to the US. I don't have anything against Archewell and I've always supported Harry and Meghan in their charitable endeavours. You will not find one post of mine ever that criticises them doing work for charity. I've even stuck up for them on this thread. I just find that the donations seem circuitous between charities. Charities donate to other charities who then donate to other charities, each taking a cut on the way.

But you know if I was happy with that, I could donate to Archewell because... its a public charity.

And actually there are people claiming its a public charity - me and the IRS. If it's unimportant, why don't you believe me about the letter?

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Don't know what you find so hurtful or what you want an apology for.

Facts are facts, you cannot donate to Archewell !

They will point out which charities they support and you go straight to the charity page itself, and donate directly to the charity. Archewell are not getting a cut, as you say, charities do keep track on who linked them as it just helps charities to know which links are useful for them to get the most support. (so they know who to market to the most, ie Sussex supporters in this case).

Perhaps the fact that you don't donate to the charities is why you don't know how it operates ?

MarshaMelrose · 06/04/2023 14:18

I've told you I saw a letter saying it was classed as a public charity and you said....

The IRS did not reclassify their foundation to a charity. It’s simply not true.

That would seem that you're saying I'm wrong. Either through making it up or stupidity. So I'd think if I could find a letter from the IRS saying it was a charity, I'd deserve an apology. Of course, it was last year when I read it so I might not even be able to find it.

wordler · 06/04/2023 14:21

Looks like individuals can donate the same report which mentioned the two big idonors also mentions public donations of $4,500

MarshaMelrose · 06/04/2023 14:21

notanotheroneagain · 06/04/2023 14:18

Don't know what you find so hurtful or what you want an apology for.

Facts are facts, you cannot donate to Archewell !

They will point out which charities they support and you go straight to the charity page itself, and donate directly to the charity. Archewell are not getting a cut, as you say, charities do keep track on who linked them as it just helps charities to know which links are useful for them to get the most support. (so they know who to market to the most, ie Sussex supporters in this case).

Perhaps the fact that you don't donate to the charities is why you don't know how it operates ?

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Archewell is a public charity. It's authorised to receive bequests, devises, transfers and gifts.

notanotheroneagain · 06/04/2023 14:21

Well the King can’t help being the King either so he can’t help being in a position to receive obscene amounts of money as you put it.

Funniest thing I ever read.

Just a thought...........maybe he do like Harry and stop taking obscene amount?? Don't know, just a thought. 😂😅

smilesy · 06/04/2023 14:22

Divisionoflabour89 · 06/04/2023 14:07

There’s always abdication Smilesy 😀

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True. And Harry could also stop capitalising on the fact that he is a member of the Royal Family 🤪

MarshaMelrose · 06/04/2023 14:22

wordler · 06/04/2023 14:21

Looks like individuals can donate the same report which mentioned the two big idonors also mentions public donations of $4,500

Well, yes. Because its a public charity. I'm not making it up...as some would have you believe. 😉

smilesy · 06/04/2023 14:24

notanotheroneagain · 06/04/2023 14:21

Well the King can’t help being the King either so he can’t help being in a position to receive obscene amounts of money as you put it.

Funniest thing I ever read.

Just a thought...........maybe he do like Harry and stop taking obscene amount?? Don't know, just a thought. 😂😅

Eh? Harry did pocket an obscene amount just because he is a member of the Royal Family. Like the King is. That was my point. And there is no need to be so sneery , yet again 🙄

Lilyofthevalley23 · 06/04/2023 15:29

This article offers some explanation of the difference between public charities and foundations for those that are interested:

https://copecorrales.com/articles/types-of-charitable-giving

and this is the IRS confirmation of charity status for tax purposes (only).

Types of Charitable Giving: The ABCs of Donations - Cope Corrales

Learn about the types of charitable giving so you can support groups you love while maximizing the tax benefits.

https://copecorrales.com/articles/types-of-charitable-giving

Lilyofthevalley23 · 06/04/2023 15:30

I don't think the image worked on my previous post.

Archewell only had two donors
notanotheroneagain · 06/04/2023 15:34

smilesy · 06/04/2023 13:47

But what made his story worth the huge amount of money he got for it? I bet I know people with much more interesting stories than his who would never command those fees. He simply got them because of his Royal connection. Yes it’s different to the sovereign grant, but why does Harry need that amount of money if he wants to live as a private citizen? The Royals get the lifestyle and money they get because, rightly or wrongly, they are members of a certain family and live in their gilded cage. Harry chose to leave. What has he done to deserve the huge amount of money he got for his book, Netflix documentary etc? I’m not suggesting he should wear sack cloth and live in a cave, but he had enough money for a comfortable lifestyle. Why does he need to live in a huge house for example? What does it add to his life other than outward show?

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What has he done to deserve so much money? Well the answer is how much money the tabloids made off his back, that is what. They made millions denigrating his wife. Now, time for him to set the record straight. So yeah, he also gets paid generously for it.

The family will be mentioned because they were there (mostly gaining from his notoriety, while not correcting anything). "I cannot hug my brother"/ "MM made KM cry" etc.

And yes, the rags were making so much money, MM had her own section on the DM. He is likely making less than what has been made out of him.

notanotheroneagain · 06/04/2023 15:40

MarshaMelrose · 06/04/2023 14:22

Well, yes. Because its a public charity. I'm not making it up...as some would have you believe. 😉

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You are not proving anything here.

Who paid 4500. ? You are aware that H&M followers make hundreds of Ks in donations to their charities right ? On their own, independently, direct to the charity.

Who paid this 45K. A friend ? Who just felt like donating this amount because they like a certain charity ? Hardly, H&M demanding the plebs to pay money is it? Where is the link that makes the average Joe pleb pay to archewell ? That is what you have not produced.

ExitChasedByAMemory · 06/04/2023 15:41

DewinDwl · 06/04/2023 07:40

And this is the 'journalism' we have

Yes such an important point,valid for this issue and much widely. The press we have spreads hatred, ignorance, and division - they live on malicious gossip and poisonous near-slander while serious issues go unreported and crappy politicians are unchallenged.

The impact of poor journalism on UK society has been incredibly negative in the last decade or so. I am not so bothered about H&M but I am glad he is taking the press to task. That's something good coming out of all this.

That’s a good point. Also, when it comes to charitable foundations in the States, they’re run completely differently compared to here so it’s difficult to say how well Meghan and Harry are doing. It would be more accurate to compare their charitable foundations to other ones in the U.S to see the difference and even then Archewell (not entirely sure how to pronounce it), is fairly new so it will take time compared to more established foundations like Obama et al.

Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 15:48

@notanotheroneagain the donations they received are via donor assisted funds. Usually they specify what it’s to be used for but the large donation didn’t and that’s why people suspect it’s Harry.

smilesy · 06/04/2023 15:58

notanotheroneagain · 06/04/2023 15:34

What has he done to deserve so much money? Well the answer is how much money the tabloids made off his back, that is what. They made millions denigrating his wife. Now, time for him to set the record straight. So yeah, he also gets paid generously for it.

The family will be mentioned because they were there (mostly gaining from his notoriety, while not correcting anything). "I cannot hug my brother"/ "MM made KM cry" etc.

And yes, the rags were making so much money, MM had her own section on the DM. He is likely making less than what has been made out of him.

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What a load of nonsense. The tabloids have made millions out of lots of people, unfortunately. They don’t all get to sell a book off the back of their family connections. And how is writing said book in any way getting back at the tabloids?

GreekDogRescue · 06/04/2023 16:01

@notanotheroneagain Is that you Megan?
Will Harold be suing ‘lying’ Camilla Tominey?