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Was there anything Kate didn't excel at?

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Mommymoments · 15/03/2023 11:33

Having read many articles Kate (pippa & James also) is so accomplished since she was tiny.
She is very sporty.. strong swimmer, excellent skier, hockey player, lacrosse, athletics, netball.. Plays piano very well & also was lead in schools drama production. Excelled at art.
It seems the Middleton's didn't do much in the way of equistrian sports?
Would love my dc to be as accomplished & well rounded. Can't afford Marlborough or any private for that matter!

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LadyKenya · 16/03/2023 10:07

People on here would not be fawning all over Kate if she was not tall, slim, looking good, would they? As usual this seems so very important. I do not care what she looks like, but what she does.

piedbeauty · 16/03/2023 10:20

HubertTheGoat · 15/03/2023 11:44

Academics? She's never described as one of the outstandingly clever girls at school.

She got in to St Andrews. That's hard. She must have done well in her A levels.

BansheeofInisherin · 16/03/2023 10:27

As usual, royalists have only two arguments (1) You are jealous. (2) Meghan is worse.

I agree Meghan is not exactly someone worth admiring either, though I never mentioned her.

In reality, if Kate was plump, frumpy and had frizzy hair, nobody would be fawning over her. That's the problem with the institution, as a whole.

The fact is you can admire who you want for great muscle tone and good hair and wearing clothes well. But people are going to call you out on it on 2023.

Serenster · 16/03/2023 10:33

Leaving aside all the subjective opinions on the thread, some data might be useful.

As someone who has regularly recruited from a pool of high achieving graduates, Kate’s CV on leaving university would definitely put her in the talent pool that such employers will assess for employment. Obviously, that’s not the route she chose to go down, but she could have.

To put that in context, the main graduate employers (e.g. accounting, armed forces, financial services, technology , public sector, law etc) recruit around 20,000 graduates a year. So she’s comfortably within that 20,000. So, that’s a lot.

To put that in context though, there are 800,000 students leaving higher education each year. So she’s in the top 2.5% of university graduates in the UK.

And to put that in context, in 2012 (closer to Kate’s era than more recent stats) 14.1% of 18 year olds in the UK went to university. So she was in the top 1% when compared to her age group.

It’s up to you whether you think that makes her mediocre, outstanding, or somewhere in the middle!

Plitvice · 16/03/2023 10:34

BansheeofInisherin · 16/03/2023 10:27

As usual, royalists have only two arguments (1) You are jealous. (2) Meghan is worse.

I agree Meghan is not exactly someone worth admiring either, though I never mentioned her.

In reality, if Kate was plump, frumpy and had frizzy hair, nobody would be fawning over her. That's the problem with the institution, as a whole.

The fact is you can admire who you want for great muscle tone and good hair and wearing clothes well. But people are going to call you out on it on 2023.

Our society has been celebrating physical attractiveness in both men and women since the year dot and the royal family is no exception. Men on dating apps rarely win any interest if they are under six feet tall. Advertising campaigns for all brand all gravitate towards promoting the same modern ideal. You get the odd inclusive token campaign but they are really only there to address the complaints raised by people like Nadia Sawalha because most five foot five size sixteen women would still be more persuaded to buy a dress after seeing it on a conventional model shape.

purpledalmation · 16/03/2023 11:05

She seems nice enough. Very attractive and a good figure in the same way Diana looked good in British designed clothing. Part of her job is to promote industry and she does this with clothing. A bit boring in a lot of cases and too middle aged for her age, but hopefully this will change as the old clothing protocols are modernised.

Sporty and fit and did well academically. She has 3 children and clearly loves kids. Researches her chosen charities and causes. She rarely puts a foot wrong and is very inoffensive. Basically that's the job she does and she does it well. Basically, don't scare the horses.

VixenTodd · 16/03/2023 12:19

It's the rule of the game. Doing well in your job over many years without complaining or offending other employees means you deserve the good perks and a good pension in the end.
If you mess up the job, throw tantrums and complain non stop after you quit then, no, you should not get the perks or the pension. When you get given some anyway, nobody will be impressed by you.

BadgerB · 16/03/2023 12:29

notanotheroneagain · Today 09:37
As for KM 'concentrating on her childcare'. She has an army of nannies (they even have their own house, right next to her 'cottage').

She has never had a proper job except working for her mum and her mum's friend in internship.

Stop trying to big up a mediocre person.

She has one nanny, who has worked for them since George was a baby. And yes, the nanny doesn't live in .

Many people whose parents have a successful business work in the family firm.

Stop trying to denigrate an average women who is doing well in her chosen life, in order to big-up your favourites.

JuliesBicycle · 16/03/2023 12:33

VixenTodd · 16/03/2023 12:19

It's the rule of the game. Doing well in your job over many years without complaining or offending other employees means you deserve the good perks and a good pension in the end.
If you mess up the job, throw tantrums and complain non stop after you quit then, no, you should not get the perks or the pension. When you get given some anyway, nobody will be impressed by you.

In real life sadly that does not happen. Women who quietly get on with the job for many years without complaints get over looked and ignored.

JuliesBicycle · 16/03/2023 12:34

Kate and William have more than one nanny.
How the Royals do is they have the official Norland Nanny, in W and K case living in the house next door to them. Then they have other childcare staff who are not called nannies. These staff are managed by the Nanny to provide care when she is not at work.

Mommymoments · 16/03/2023 13:39

Plitvice · 16/03/2023 09:14

Kate and Pippa were both both bright enough to succeed in a wide range of fields. Neither were ever exceptional scholars and more passionate about competitive sports over academics. If they wanted to be the glossy haired wives of wealthy men (which I think they did) then that balance was about right. Their leanness and muscle tone is impressive. I came across a photo of Kate, Sophie, Camilla and Meghan walking together (think it was around the time of the Queen's funeral). Kate was the only one who didn't have a matronly shape or badly processed hair so her ongoing efforts to mainain that look do pay off (genetics plays an enormous part too).

Kate's posture is exceptional. I read before that she participated in yoga in Marlborough & her love of it continued into adulthood.

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Mommymoments · 16/03/2023 13:45

BansheeofInisherin · 16/03/2023 09:54

If we are going to admire someone's leannness and muscle tone-why?- can we admire Serena Williams for playing and winning Grand Slams after giving birth instead? Rather than a mannequin?

I don't think Kate personally is mediocre. What I think is that the institution won't allow her or anyone in it to be anything more. So it's not her fault, as such, and none of my posts are aimed at her personally. Just the idea of a princess at all in 2023.

Btw, I have lived in 6 countries since childhood- expatriate-so travelled a lot, and have a law degree, plus some published books. I can make interesting conversation. I was very slim until I was 42, as slim as Kate. So bloody what? Honestly, the fawning.

Serena Williams is truely fabulous but this is the Royal Forum for Royal chat.. Maybe start a Serena thread on the main chat?

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theropeisslipping · 16/03/2023 14:01

@Mommymoments Are you being serious talking about how great someone's posture is? If anyone dares criticises Kate then they are a Meghan fan. That is not the case maybe most people think Kate is a boring middle aged woman who has actually never excelled in anything apart from managing to marry the future king and that took her 15 years to achieve. I suggest you stop fawning over these over privileged do littles who don't know the meaning of hard work.

JuliesBicycle · 16/03/2023 14:03

I agree that we have no idea what Kate's skills are as the job requirement seems to be to smile, say broad meaningless platitudes, and have good hair.

Plitvice · 16/03/2023 14:37

It doesn't sound like much does it? You would think anyone could do it. However, there is proof that it has been beyond the capability of various living royals (I am not just referring to the obvious one). If she is fulfilling the requirement and the taxpayers generally see the value of her role then leave her be.

HamBone · 16/03/2023 14:44

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 15/03/2023 12:09

I used to be a teacher. You get these fairly often! Sporty, all rounders, clever, good looking, nice. It seems unfair but that's life!

Yep, @SirSamVimesCityWatch, there’s usually a couple of people in every school year like that, generally good at everything with looks to boot.

sydneysunset · 16/03/2023 14:49

I agree that we have no idea what Kate's skills are as the job requirement seems to be to smile, say broad meaningless platitudes, and have good hair.

jealousy really is a curse, isn’t it? 🤢

JuliesBicycle · 16/03/2023 14:50

@Plitvice Because we do not choose the best for the job. And frankly the Royals are not the brightest family.

sydneysunset · 16/03/2023 14:51

there’s usually a couple of people in every school year like that, generally good at everything with looks to boot

Yes, and that can be very triggering for some people, who aren’t similarly gifted.

HubertTheGoat · 16/03/2023 14:52

Serenster · 16/03/2023 10:33

Leaving aside all the subjective opinions on the thread, some data might be useful.

As someone who has regularly recruited from a pool of high achieving graduates, Kate’s CV on leaving university would definitely put her in the talent pool that such employers will assess for employment. Obviously, that’s not the route she chose to go down, but she could have.

To put that in context, the main graduate employers (e.g. accounting, armed forces, financial services, technology , public sector, law etc) recruit around 20,000 graduates a year. So she’s comfortably within that 20,000. So, that’s a lot.

To put that in context though, there are 800,000 students leaving higher education each year. So she’s in the top 2.5% of university graduates in the UK.

And to put that in context, in 2012 (closer to Kate’s era than more recent stats) 14.1% of 18 year olds in the UK went to university. So she was in the top 1% when compared to her age group.

It’s up to you whether you think that makes her mediocre, outstanding, or somewhere in the middle!

This is an interesting way to look at it. What makes you say her CV would be of interest? Did she graduate with a First?

sydneysunset · 16/03/2023 14:54

Because we do not choose the best for the job. And frankly the Royals are not the brightest family

They are a lot brighter than those who have nothing better to do with their lives than write banal & bitchy things on forums all day… I can absolutely guarantee, based purely on your contributions to this thread, that you are considerably less accomplished, less interesting and less attractive than Kate.

sydneysunset · 16/03/2023 14:56

This is an interesting way to look at it. What makes you say her CV would be of interest? Did she graduate with a First?

Presumably a first or a 2:1. She graduated at a time when a 2:1 was a very good mark. Grade inflation over the past decade has rendered a First pretty meaningless of course.

HamBone · 16/03/2023 14:59

HubertTheGoat · 16/03/2023 14:52

This is an interesting way to look at it. What makes you say her CV would be of interest? Did she graduate with a First?

@HubertTheGoat I’m guessing that it’s more that she had a wide range of interests and activities, and would fit well in many environments.

My DD applied for university this year and we were advised that while academic achievements are obviously v. Important, showing that she was a well-rounded person with a range of interests was equally crucial.

StepHigh · 16/03/2023 15:02

I know a lot of UMC girls like this- it's not unusual, pretty much describes half my school friends. She's sporty but not an Olympic athlete, bright but not a fellow of All Souls, musical but not performing with the LSO. She's also good looking, which is partly genes but also a great deal of hard work and money to be so slim and groomed. Not saying this to pan Kate or to praise her, just how it is.

Having the money for all the activities makes a big difference, plus the ability to knuckle down.

JuliesBicycle · 16/03/2023 15:16

I agree it is about money and hard work. And most girls can look very pretty with decent clothes, make up, hairstyles, and good diet and exercise. The really beautiful ones look beautiful with terrible hairstyles and clothing. I knew a young woman like this. She had messy curly hair she did nothing with and wore old jeans and cheap jumpers and looked stunning. But that is very rare.