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Why does Charles need 10 residences?

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PosieLuton · 07/03/2023 16:32

Is this his version of a slimmed down Monarchy? He has always been known to be a spendthrift with himself and very careful with everyone else. So his residences are:
Buckingham Palace, Clarence House, Sandringham, Windsor Castle that is currently being renovated for him, Highgrove, Balmoral, Birkhall and Castle of Mey, plus his Romanian home and Llwynywermod in Wales.

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PosieLuton · 07/03/2023 19:54

The Queen did not give them homes. She gave them homes they pay rent on, and can also be evicted from. Very different from having a house bought for you.

Charles offered to buy them a house in Gloucestershire but they turned it down

CathyorClaire · 07/03/2023 20:08

Highgrove personally owned. Lives here when not working. Opens to the public to earn an income.

Highgrove was bought and is owned by the Duchy of Cornwall.

Marvellous sleight of hand when he was PoW as the rent he paid was returned to him in the form of Duchy profits. Willy as the new beneficiary of the Duchy is now his landlord.

purpledalmation · 07/03/2023 20:09

Because he's a king?

Seriously he doesn't 'own' them as such, they are royal residences.
I'm sure no one questions why the US president has multiple residences.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 07/03/2023 20:14

Mumsnut · 07/03/2023 17:26

Frankly, why have a Royal Family if they aren’t dripping with jewels and palaces?

Exactly. He's the king. He gets palaces. Big whoop.

CathyorClaire · 07/03/2023 20:16

Castle of Mey belongs to a charitable trust. Charles does not own it.

And yet it's closed for ten days a year so he can have the private run of it.

Not a bad deal.

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PosieLuton · 07/03/2023 20:21

Can I get the national trust to let me have a property for free for ten days a year and not allow anyone else access?

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sydneysunset · 07/03/2023 20:22

Exactly. He's the king. He gets palaces. Big whoop

Quite. I think most people expect the King to have a few palaces. As long as royals behave like royals, it's just business as usual.

CathyorClaire · 07/03/2023 20:22

I can tell you if you go there it is a really nice place to visit. It was run down before and they have turned it into a cracking place to spend a few hours. The gardens in particular are stunning.

I'm sure all this is true but in the process it's also turned into a bit of a financial millstone which has led to him becoming mired in some fairly unsavoury stories.

pinksheetss · 07/03/2023 20:30

There's zero info on them paying that much in rent 🤦🏼‍♀️
You can't come on a forum to bitch about the royal family and what you believe to be true when quite frankly you don't have your facts correct.

CathyorClaire · 07/03/2023 20:32

Bagshot is rented from Crown Estates.

Yep.

Edward has the lease to the monstrous pile on similarly sweet terms to the deal Andrew scored on Royal Lodge.

CathyorClaire · 07/03/2023 20:33

There's zero info on them paying that much in rent

There's zero info on them paying anything in rent.

pinksheetss · 07/03/2023 20:39

CathyorClaire · 07/03/2023 20:33

There's zero info on them paying that much in rent

There's zero info on them paying anything in rent.

Yes there is. It's been widely known they paid rent to the crown estate for Frogmore cottage.

sashagabadon · 07/03/2023 20:44

PosieLuton · 07/03/2023 16:57

@PuttingDownRoots You think only Russians have a lot of money? There would be American billionaires who would love to own a former Royal palace.

Crikey. I’d hate to see any of the properties sold to “ American billionaires “. Talk about knowing the price of everything but the value of nothing!

CathyorClaire · 07/03/2023 20:54

Yes there is. It's been widely known they paid rent to the crown estate for Frogmore cottage.

Link?

RiverSkater · 07/03/2023 21:03

There should be a lottery drawn every where we all get a chance to stay in these places when empty and be waited on just like they are.

I'd vote for that.

greenspaces4peace · 07/03/2023 21:20

hilarious; jeff bezoz owns 7.
wealthy people buy homes and land. it's a sound investment and part of a solid portfolio.
given that the role is to have offspring and keep the system going it's simply good business sense.

MarshaMelrose · 07/03/2023 21:59

CathyorClaire · 07/03/2023 20:33

There's zero info on them paying that much in rent

There's zero info on them paying anything in rent.

The actual figure isn't given but they rent at commercial value. It's difficult to know what value the situation of being within royal grounds makes but in 2015 a 4 bed apartment in St James Palace was being rented for around £20,000pm. I'm guessing it'd be more than that now. And no outside space.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 07/03/2023 22:44

There is a difference between the rent being paid, and the people who live in the house paying it.

The Queen paid rents on behalf of her cousins when things changed in the big review in the early 2000s.

When Harry and Meghan were offered Frogmore they were working royals. They won’t have been expected to pay rent on their main residence. The Queen would have paid, as she did for other working royals.

There’s no detail issued, as there has been for Andrew and Edward’s residences, on the lease detail so how much and exactly who paid what isn’t something we’re ever likely to know for sure.

HedwigIsMyDemon · 08/03/2023 07:22

@sydneysunset and how do royals “behave like royals”. It’s truly incredible that in this day and age we still think this is ok. It totally baffles me every time.

MintJulia · 08/03/2023 07:30

PosieLuton · 07/03/2023 16:57

@PuttingDownRoots You think only Russians have a lot of money? There would be American billionaires who would love to own a former Royal palace.

I doubt an American billionaire would choose a moneypit home on a cold damp drafty island off the edge of Europe, with terrible roads.

Unless they wanted to convert it into a golf resort. And of course that worked soooo well with Trump didn't it!

Novella4 · 08/03/2023 07:32

MaoamAddict · 07/03/2023 17:11

'Bought with taxpayer money' - do you have a clue how total finances work? They give 100% of their income to the government and then they receive grants back from the government to live on and renovate/restore their properties. They are net contributors to 'the system' without even considering the tourism and merchandise revenue they generate for the national economy.

I've been to 4 of the residences mentioned as a paying visitor and they provide employment for vast numbers of people. Sandringham for example, is a huge employer in the local area & also support local charitable endeavours and trusts.

Do you have a clue how it works ??

'Crown estate' is misnamed I agree. Windsors like to give the impression that ithe crown estate is theirs and they are being so benevolent in giving us some 'charity'

It's lies
The state owns the crown estate . If we got rid of the Windsors it would be 100% to the state . Not the 75% we currently get
The Windsors don't manage the crown estate, they don't produce the profits .
They do have a little clause though that says their cut must never be reduced no matter how the estate is performing

EdithWeston · 08/03/2023 10:29

The Crown Estate is owned by the Crown.

The Crown as an institution and "the State" are the same thing in a Monarchy.

All Government is in the name of the Monarch, and all powers flow from the Crown. Even if you own your land, it's freehold from the Crown.

Yes, other arrangements exist in other places.

But that doesn't mean that somehow there is a "state", independent of the Crown, in a country that is a Monarchy.

Though it's mildly interesting to note that Wiki describes some countries that are monarchies as "crowned republics". I think that's misleading in the sense that it could erroneously foster misconceptions of the role of the Crown in a monarchy, but useful too as it shows that in some, the checks and balances on the exercise of power are essentially indistinguishable between some monarchies and some republics

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PosieLuton · 08/03/2023 10:37

The Crown Estate belongs to the Royal Family when it suits them and does not belong to them when it suits them.
If it does not belong to the Royal Family the government should get 100% of any profits and be able to sell or use the buildings as they wish.
The truth is the Royal Family control the Crown Estate.

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BMW6 · 08/03/2023 10:50

If you were really interested in this issue OP you wouldn't be making such ignorant and incorrect assertions.

You are simply an anti Monarchist trying abysmally to whip up support.

You'd do much better if your posts didn't reach the heady levels of a pre pubescent.
"He has 10 homes. Waaargh."

0/10

HereComesMaleficent · 08/03/2023 10:55

A King owns/manages multiple grand palaces.

Shock horror, stop the press 🤣

I cant say it bothers me, any more than Russian Oligarchs who own multiple million pound London and UK properties.

Wealthy people have lots of money, lots of properties. It's the way of the world 🤣