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The royal family

Charity Engagement Yesterday

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AshTreesEverywhere · 27/01/2023 12:49

The Royal Family attend public engagements that are jollies such as Film Premiers and Wold Cup Finals. But yesterday William and Kate visited a Food Bank. So what did this work involve?

William and Kate travelled 10-15 minutes to the Windsor Foodshare, a food bank. They played around with a shopping cart and cracked “jokes” about who was being more useful (neither). They met with some of the food bank workers and barely spent an hour on this photo-op.

That is one of their average 150 engagements a year.

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Blossomtoes · 30/01/2023 13:24

LadyKenya · 30/01/2023 13:22

They could have just put a video about the food bank on their media platform, along with a helpful link encouraging people to donate. It is not difficult.

That wouldn’t have raised morale for the volunteers. And people like you would have criticised that too because they’d pick at them whatever they did.

smilesy · 30/01/2023 13:25

DewinDwl · 30/01/2023 13:18

Well the 3rd point sounds quire general and waffly but the first two sound obvious, laudable and probably close to their heart?

Anyone who's on twitter or Mumsnet will understand how nasty things get online. Also if you have been following politics in the last 10 years or so you will know that there are sinister characters out there doing very well out of spreading disinformation. That's without getting into the details of M&H taking on the tabloid press.

It sounds quite current, ambitious and relevant to me.

How can they talk about “restoring trust in information “ when Harry has just put out a book full of factual errors and one sided versions of events?

OutForBreakfast · 30/01/2023 13:27

I agree the Princes Trust is a brilliant initiative.
But that is because he obviously cared about setting up something good, not just looing for a photo op.

William and Kate seem to think the public are stupid. Instead people see through actions that are meant only for easy pr.

William and Kate need to find something they actually care about and work on that. Because otherwise they are going to continue to have this pr problem.

LadyKenya · 30/01/2023 13:30

Blossomtoes · 30/01/2023 13:24

That wouldn’t have raised morale for the volunteers. And people like you would have criticised that too because they’d pick at them whatever they did.

Funny that you ignored my earlier post that I reposted after you wrongly stated a fact about myself. Yet here you are again talking about 'people like you'. Give it a rest, If they wanted to raise morale, why not invite them to one of their homes for afternoon tea, or an evening meal, seeing as the volunteers may be actually working hard in the food bank by day, and not just fannying around.

Roussette · 30/01/2023 13:34

OutForBreakfast · 30/01/2023 13:27

I agree the Princes Trust is a brilliant initiative.
But that is because he obviously cared about setting up something good, not just looing for a photo op.

William and Kate seem to think the public are stupid. Instead people see through actions that are meant only for easy pr.

William and Kate need to find something they actually care about and work on that. Because otherwise they are going to continue to have this pr problem.

Well..... William in particular needs to get a wriggle on. Charles founded Princes Trust when he was mid to late 20s. It grew from nothing and Charles was (and I imagine, still is) passionate about it.

I want to see what William is passionate about.

OutForBreakfast · 30/01/2023 13:35

William and Kate do not appear to be very bright. They need to start listening to their advisors.

Blossomtoes · 30/01/2023 13:40

LadyKenya · 30/01/2023 13:30

Funny that you ignored my earlier post that I reposted after you wrongly stated a fact about myself. Yet here you are again talking about 'people like you'. Give it a rest, If they wanted to raise morale, why not invite them to one of their homes for afternoon tea, or an evening meal, seeing as the volunteers may be actually working hard in the food bank by day, and not just fannying around.

If they’d done that it would have been wrong. All that money spent on sandwiches and cake! Why didn’t they go and help at the foodbank?

OutForBreakfast · 30/01/2023 13:42

Royalists always claim people would complain no matter what the Royals do when it is not true. No one complained about a number of Royal tours. They complained about William and Kate's Caribbean tour for very good reasons.

myrtleWilson · 30/01/2023 13:44

Aside from environment, I understand the next planned stream of activity for PW is homelessness. He's already a patron at Centrepoiny and they were recruiting for a programme manager/head of programmes focusing on homelessness - don't know if they were successful obvs- they went out twice with an uplift in salary the second time.

LadyKenya · 30/01/2023 13:49

@Blossomtoes I see this could go on forever. I can only speak for myself. I would have no problem with them donating to a food bank, hospital, hospice... you get the gist. I would not have a problem with them hosting thank you, morale boosting meetings with members of the public, who perform public services. They could always send a thank you by email to save money on tea, and cake I suppose.

Roussette · 30/01/2023 13:52

OutForBreakfast · 30/01/2023 13:42

Royalists always claim people would complain no matter what the Royals do when it is not true. No one complained about a number of Royal tours. They complained about William and Kate's Caribbean tour for very good reasons.

Yes. Trouble is... you (not you, but the collective you) can find some of the stuff they do a good thing and post accordingly but all that gets forgotten when you post just one criticism like this thread, and the optics of the foodbank and their too short visit, not being a good thing.
I just don't think their visit was very well thought out. That's all. It could've been done in a more meaningful and better way.
(Cue posters saying they can't do a thing right and it's just pick pick pickGrin)

SenecaFallsRedux · 30/01/2023 14:23

Grimchmas · 30/01/2023 11:24

Thankfully for the answers as to why Phillip was Prince vs Camilla been Queen (consort).

It makes no sense to me but many rules of the monarchy don't! I was going to blame it on good old fashioned sexism that a ruling Queen couldn't have her husband be named a King, but if it were sexism surely it would be that a King's partner would only be a Princess(?).

It is historical sexism.

But there is actually some precedent in Britain for the husband of a queen regnant to be given the title of king. Philip of Spain, the husband of Mary I of England was named co-ruler when they married and called King of England. He spent most of his time in Spain, though, and never really functioned as a ruler in England. And his title did not survive Mary, who was succeeded by her sister Elizabeth.

Henry, Lord Darnley, the husband of Mary Queen of Scots, was made King Consort of Scotland.

Philip of Spain and William of Orange were co-rulers, but William's title survived his wife's death, unlike Philip's case. Mary II had a superior claim to the throne as the daughter of James II and VII (William was the son of James’s sister), and William's secondary position in the succession was recognized in the settlement which provided that if Mary died first and William remarried, any potential children with a second wife would be after Queen Mary’s sister, Anne, in the succession, thus making her, after Mary's death, the only female Heir Apparent in British history.

One of the reasons for husbands of queens regnant generally not being called King is the historical notion that King is a higher title than Queen. In many European countries where the Salic law prevailed, only men could inherit the throne and so queens in their own right were very rare. And even in countries that allowed women to reign, men took precedence in the succession until very recently (and still do in some, e.g. Spain and Monaco).

It's certainly possible with more egalitarian rules about succession, the notion that King is a higher title can change and male consorts can be called King. With more queens regnant on the horizon all over Europe (Sweden, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Spain) and a move to have more equality between the sexes in these matters, we might see the King Consort title revived for the husbands of Queens.

BadgerB · 30/01/2023 14:30

Lizziet64 · Today 10:19
Going forward, Prince Harry & Meghan Markle's Archewell Foundation will center its focus on three main pillars:
• Building a better online world
• Restoring trust in information
• Uplifting communities
Could someone explain what these three aims mean?

Usual waffle:

  1. People only say nice things about us
  2. Believe everything in Harry's book
  3. Don't have a clue what this means
AtticusFrost · 30/01/2023 14:38

@BadgerB You appear to really hate Harry and Meghan.

Coxspurplepippin · 30/01/2023 15:18

LadyKenya · 30/01/2023 13:22

They could have just put a video about the food bank on their media platform, along with a helpful link encouraging people to donate. It is not difficult.

Except that wouldn't have made the press and news would it. So far fewer people aware, interested (because however you may feel, many people are interested).

BadgerB · 30/01/2023 17:07

AtticusFrost · Today 14:38
@BadgerB You appear to really hate Harry and Meghan.

Not really - well maybe Harry a bit because of the things he has said and written about his family, which, even if true, would be better discussed privately.

Meghan, no, don't hate her, she just IS Meghan - does Meghan things. Focussed.

I hope she does really care about Harry, because if she leaves him he will be a complete wreck

Samcro · 31/01/2023 09:48

were H&M with the middletons at the food bank?

Serenster · 31/01/2023 09:57

They complained about William and Kate's Caribbean tour for very good reasons.

Absolute crickets however about the Dutch King and Queen currently on tour to the Dutch Empire territories in the Caribbean, which aren’t independent nations with their former coloniser as head of state, they are still part of, and governed, by the Netherlands). I guess the anti-monarchists and anti-colonialists are only interested when it’s a chance to slam William and Kate personally?

Serenster · 31/01/2023 09:58

Samcro · 31/01/2023 09:48

were H&M with the middletons at the food bank?

When were the Middleton family at a food bank?

AtticusFrost · 31/01/2023 12:18

@Serenster Classic whataboutery. There are all sorts of things in other countries I do not agree with. But we are talking about the UK and our royal family.

AtticusFrost · 31/01/2023 12:19

William and Kate were at the Windsor Foodbank a couple of days ago and were heavily criticised.

Serenster · 31/01/2023 12:42

AtticusFrost · 31/01/2023 12:19

William and Kate were at the Windsor Foodbank a couple of days ago and were heavily criticised.

The poster said the Middletons though..?

smilesy · 31/01/2023 12:48

Serenster · 31/01/2023 12:42

The poster said the Middletons though..?

I think the poster is using Middleton to refer to the Waleses because people use Markle to refer to the Sussexes, @Serenster

Serenster · 31/01/2023 12:57

Oh, I see. It’s a swipe at other posters, not a reference to the Middleton family.

(I thought people generally used “Harkles” to refer to the Sussexes, not Markle by themselves - like “Bennifer” and “Brangelina” and other such couple portmanteau names. Which is at least an obvious naming convention. Just using the name of the wife to refer to the husband is not so obvious. Clearly).

smilesy · 31/01/2023 13:16

Serenster · 31/01/2023 12:57

Oh, I see. It’s a swipe at other posters, not a reference to the Middleton family.

(I thought people generally used “Harkles” to refer to the Sussexes, not Markle by themselves - like “Bennifer” and “Brangelina” and other such couple portmanteau names. Which is at least an obvious naming convention. Just using the name of the wife to refer to the husband is not so obvious. Clearly).

I seem to remember that in another thread, posters were unhappy with the use of Markle to refer to the DoS, and equally Harkles to refer to both of them, so suggested it was reasonable to use Middleton to refer to the PoW 🤷‍♀️