Adultery, the Church of England and the Coronation of Charles & Camilla

[Inspectamus]

Discussed as a thread on Gransnet, but not on Mumsnet. What does Mumsnet think?

"The Church of England has never crowned a divorced man as King, let alone one who has publicly confessed to adultery – with the relevant woman expecting to be crowned Queen Consort," Holden writes.

I think that in these corona-virus and coronation times the Church of England should not be taking liberties with God’s Ten Commandments. But they’re doing it anyway, without explaining to the people and the world how they’re reconciling the conflict in what they preach and their new King & Queen’s actions.

How can Charles and Camilla view their adultery as a mistake if it was the means to achieve what they desired?
This, in my view, sets a bad example as Supreme Governors of the Church of England’s Christian faith and as defenders of the faith.

I’m having a crisis of faith, as it happens. For me, Charles and Camilla’s religious coronation will be evidence that the God behind the Ten Commandments cannot exist.

So because Man breaks Gods laws, you believe that God doesn’t exist?
You have a curious view of free will.

What on earth does the corona virus have to do with it?

Or even God I suppose

Well hopefully they will be obliterated in a flash of lightning the minute the crown hits Charles’s head, so that your faith is saved OP.

Because obviously he is the only king in history that has ever committed adultery.

At least he didn't have previous wives decapitated a la Henry VIII.

Do you really care or is this just a silly thread?

Since Andrew's nice weekend in New York with a convicted child abuser and the royal families acceptance of this, I'm against having a royal family. This, I could not care less about.

If we hadn't crowned any kings who committed adultery there would have been very very few kings.

Also, want the Church of England set up specifically to allow a king to divorce? (I know there were other reasons but that was one of the main ones)

I think you need to find more important things / moral issues to worry about.

Not an ordinary man. Royalty. Prince of Wales in line to throne, crown and church as defender of the faith.

It’s hypocrisy.

If that was the case, then that doesn’t make it right… it makes it hypocrisy.

Anthony Holden is making the point that this is actually the first time a King who has confessed to adultery is being crowned alongside the woman he committed adultery with.

I can see why Prince Harry is talking about his mother so much. It’s like she has approached him like the ghost of Hamlet’s father.

"...but know, thou noble youth,
The serpent that did sting thy Mother’s life,
Now wears her crown."

He's a widower, though, now. For all you know, he's repented and been absolved of the sin of adultery, in which case, he's in the clear - unless he then can't marry a divorcee, either? Which will then open a whole new can of worms!

well given the CofE only exists cos a man wanted to divorce his wife and marry his mistress I think it would be weird to have a problem with it.

Furthermore, you think he's the first King to commit adultery. Kings that don't commit adulty are actually well in the minority.

You can’t rule out the possibility God is behind the Corona-virus. If he is, it suggests a message or omen or retribution.

The coronavirus has prompted almost two-thirds of American believers to feel that God is telling humanity to change how it lives, a new poll has found.

For me, it’s the language of the word behind the pandemic that feels significant. Corona means crown. And here we have the Church of England crowning an adulterous couple as King, Queen, Head of Church and Defenders of Faith.

The Church of England can no longer be taken seriously when preaching the Ten Commandments.

But I wonder if Diana would be with us still if she was not the victim of her husband’s adultery with Camilla? Had Charles devoted his efforts to his marriage, rather than the other woman, then maybe his marriage and Diana stood a chance to survive?

Camilla is not in the clear though. Andrew Parker Bowles is still alive.

Of course people who committed adultery have been crowned before. People who have admitted it too - in fact people who have recognised their illegitimate offspring publicly have been crowned. I'm not sure why you're getting your knickers in a twist about Charles. Have you got a Saint Diana view of the world?

And as for losing your faith over something so trivial breaking god's laws...how odd. There are murders, rapes, thefts and other commandment-breaking events every day that go unpunished. Why should it be some random's sex life that causes you to lose faith? Very odd!

"The Church of England can no longer be taken seriously when preaching the Ten Commandments."

You could have ended that sentence after "seriously".

But it’s not a random though, is it?

It’s the Head of the Church and Defender of the Faith. With great power comes great responsibility.

Adultery isn’t as simple as “it’s their private business” when it hurts other people and destroys families/marriages in the process. Adulteress can be selfish and destructive.

There’s a reason ‘Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery’ is one of the Ten Commandments. The fact that one is being treated trivially to suit an agenda and personal desire suggests all the other commandments can be too.

And presumably he's made his peace with his god, repented, received absolution for all we know. I don't consider his adultery to be any different from a random bloke in the street and I'm sure God doesn't either. He is just a human after all to god, regardless of his title. I'm sure nobody will rush out and shag another person just because he did so they think it's OK.

I say this as an atheist republican though! What he does and who he does it with has absolutely no bearing on me, my morals or my life whatsoever!

Haven’t we had this coronavirus/ coronation bollocks before 🤔

It’s the Head of the Church

Only because a man once decided that that is how it would be in that particular church.

Only because he is the eldest son of the late queen.

If the behaviours of someone in a position of power through pure circumstance is enough to challenge your faith, your faith was pretty flimsy to start with.

I suggest you take some time out to read about God and take some time out to think about this possibility before jumping to conclusions. Whatever your conclusions may be, make sure they’re sufficiently informed.

Could God Be Behind the Coronavirus Pandemic?
Whether you’re religious or not, or even if you just think about God from time to time, it’s almost impossible to avoid the question: Is God behind this pandemic that’s causing so much suffering in our world? One thing is for sure: you cannot believe in God without asking this question.

This meme might also help you think… the implication is that if God is powerful then the answer must be D.

knowyourmeme.com/photos/1816316-covid-19-pandemic

How about Repentance and Absolution?

Your God seems particularly unforgiving. Let's hope, for all our sakes, you've got it wrong

There is no god, soooo...no.

And the king isn't Spider-Man.

You seriously used a meme to support your point?