Adultery, the Church of England and the Coronation of Charles & Camilla

[Inspectamus]

Discussed as a thread on Gransnet, but not on Mumsnet. What does Mumsnet think?

"The Church of England has never crowned a divorced man as King, let alone one who has publicly confessed to adultery – with the relevant woman expecting to be crowned Queen Consort," Holden writes.

I think that in these corona-virus and coronation times the Church of England should not be taking liberties with God’s Ten Commandments. But they’re doing it anyway, without explaining to the people and the world how they’re reconciling the conflict in what they preach and their new King & Queen’s actions.

How can Charles and Camilla view their adultery as a mistake if it was the means to achieve what they desired?
This, in my view, sets a bad example as Supreme Governors of the Church of England’s Christian faith and as defenders of the faith.

I’m having a crisis of faith, as it happens. For me, Charles and Camilla’s religious coronation will be evidence that the God behind the Ten Commandments cannot exist.

But it’s the symbolism of it all. I now see it as a joke.

King Edward VIII had to abdicate for marrying divorced Wallis Simpson. The symbolism does matter.

You’re right to point out that Henry VIII strayed the problem. The Church of England was built on shaky foundations. Maybe it is time for the fall.

*started

For me, it’s the language of the word behind the pandemic that feels significant. Corona means crown.

I like your conspiracy theory-ish tone OP, but it's called corona virus because someone thought the spikes of this group of viruses look a bit like the corona of the sun. They have been called corona viruses since the 60s. It's really nothing to do with god or King Charles's sex life.

Isn't it a given that the monarch makes up their own rules re religion?
Dems da boss now innit

But it’s the symbolism of it all. I now see it as a joke.

All organised religion is entirely man made. Having a faith I understand, but placing value on something that only exists because someone once decided that was the "correct" way to celebrate said faith is the true joke here.

@smilesy Haven’t we had this coronavirus/ coronation bollocks before 🤔

We have indeed had this corona virus/coronation bollocks on at least one other long thread. The OP @Inspectamus has some very odd conspiracy type views and does not really respond to comments.

Loads of kings have committed adultery and have acknowledged it. They just never needed to divorce because they could live openly with their mistresses. Charles isn't a serial adulterer like other kings have been.
Henry viii committed adultery with Anne Boleyn, divorced his Catherine of Aragon, married Anne whilst she pregnant and crowned her queen consort. Is it somehow worse to do it before you're crowned than after?

Nah.

It's God just lying in wait, innit <taps nose> Playing the long game.

Is Amanda Holden's opinion constitutionally correct?
I think we should have Alan Carr's view too!
😁

I’m having a crisis of faith, as it happens. For me, Charles and Camilla’s religious coronation will be evidence that the God behind the Ten Commandments cannot exist.

This actually makes me want to sing Land of Hope and Glory, because it's astounding the power some guy in the UK apparently has on the globally recognised concept of God.

Honestly, God doesn't exist because a British guy once cheated and divorced?

I'm no believer but that is a stretch and a half.

Thanks for the laughs

It's God just lying in wait, innit <taps nose> Playing the long game.

😂 now imagining god creating the sun and deciding to add a corona effect, so that one day scientists name a group of viruses after it, so that 70 years later when he uses one to cause a pandemic, he can also bump off the queen to cause a coronation. Luckily we have OP to spot the significance of all this. Apparently. Sneaky old god.

That would be the Church of England founded by a twice-divorced king.

I think that in these corona-virus and coronation times

Say what now?

I think it would be quicker to list the Kings of England who DIDN'T commit adultery, rather than those that did 😂

Good work though, OP, keep going!

Umm ... forgiveness?

Is this the same Church of England that was founded by a king because he wanted to ditch his first wife to marry his mistress? Who he then beheaded, etc etc?

SPOILER ALERT

It's even worse than all this, as God now presumably knows - thanks to a certain best-seelling royal memoir - that the heir to the throne (and his little brother) begged the King to live in sin with his paramour and do anything amd everything BUT marry her.

Perhaps, in the view of the King and Queen Consort, their first love and loyalty was always to each other and it was the carnal relationships with their respective first spouses under local law that were in a moral and universal sense "adulterous."

However, Charles has been King for months; I imagine if the Heavens were going to fall they would have done so already!

At least Charles and Camilla are carrying on their family traditions, eh?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Keppel

I feel that beheading wives is a worse thing than cheating on them. Why are you fine with that, but a virus must be divine?

Um, you do know how the C of E came into being?

As a Republican atheist I’m very much enjoying the appalling hypocrisy that is being displayed by both the church and the royals 🙄.

But they’ve always been hypocrites about so many things - what this demonstrates is we could live happily without either institution as they clearly can’t lecture us on morals. 🤷‍♀️

Sometimes Mumsnet delivers the absolute best of idiots. You can laugh at them and get a good per up to your day. This one here
spewing garbage about god and corona and lots of memidence as evidence was a good proper laugh.

I’m no historian, but do you not have any issue with the fact that Henry VIII established the Church of England?

Maybe they will be struck down by a lightning bolt whilst on their thrones as will the Archbishop of Canterbury for enabling the coronation. They do say that God works in mysterious ways.

Alternatively God is a republican and is allowing the coronation to go ahead so that the people will eventually vote for the abolition of the monarchy.

The bible also advises forgiveness