To be shocked at this from mental health charity founder?

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Marjorie Wallace who founded mental health charity SANE in 1986, said when asked about Meghan Markle saying she had suicidal thoughts that she doesn’t ‘respect people who take victimhood on as a career’.

This is shocking. Do people hate Meghan so much that all ethics and morality is jettisoned?

You might be shocked I'm not

Yes it's a disgusting thing to say. Who is she to make judgements on other peoples mental health?

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It an awful thing to say. I’m surprised she said it, it’s disappointing.

For context, here's the full quote:

"In the podcast, the topic of conversation turned to Meghan Markle and her decision to discuss in her Netflix documentary with Prince Harry that she had developed suicidal thoughts as a working member of the Royal Family.
When asked by Johnson about whether she thought it was wise to reveal this, Ms Wallace said: 'I don't like to condemn anyone.
'I'll tell you what I don't really like, and this is nothing to do with the Netflix series, is that I don't like victimhood and I've never played it myself in my life.
'Yes you can have terrible times, and I've had terrible terrible times with my children, with my life, with my divorce - all kinds of terrible things.
'But I don't really think playing the victim card helps, whatever you're a victim of, and I don't really respect people who take victimhood on as a career."

Not shocked at all unfortunately, for conditions that needs recognition those who speak with some form of authority on the subject often seem the most judgemental.

I’d read it all already and think it sounded worse the more she said. It’s not helpful to people going through any sort of mental illness to feel anyone is judging them.

Interesting comment from someone who must be quite an expert in mental health conditions.

It's a terrible thing to say. I hope she's cringing herself inside out.

I think perhaps it's the equivalent of people who say they pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, so why can't you? They may have experience of hardship but don't always have a lot of patience for others who respond differently to it.

I don't think she is criticizing Meghan for struggling with her mental health but rather for making it seem as though she was all alone, had no access to supports or services, no possible way to get any help, no one who cared about her etc. That is the victimhood in this, not having mental health issues.

Meghan in fact had a multiple of supports and services at her fingertips and the money to purchase whomever's services she wished. She had power and priviledge and a team of people.

I agree with her! Markle is coming across as a professional victim, when it suits her. She had access to a lot of money and could have sought support, she is not shy of speaking out.

Someone involved in mental health issues should understand that it is not as easy as just get help, or just pay for help. That is the kind of thing I expect from people who have no real understanding of mental health issues.

Wow. The full quote doesn't make it any better. To me, as someone who has suicidal thoughts pretty much every day, she sounds callous, judgemental and smug. The kind of person you don't want anywhere near mental health charities.

How awful and narrow minded of someone who should know better.

Forgot to add that comments like that are part of the reasons why some people would never speak about/ share / open up about mental health struggles

'Yes you can have terrible times, and I've had terrible terrible times with my children, with my life, with my divorce - all kinds of terrible things.
'But I don't really think playing the victim card helps, whatever you're a victim of, and I don't really respect people who take victimhood on as a career."

So what counts as 'playing the victim card', in her book? Speaking out? Sharing with a counsellor? Daring to complain? Having a vent/moan to those close to you? Struggling and feeling the effects of terrible times years later?

Really horrible comments, and exactly why people don't talk about their mental health a lot of the time. Why it's still not seen the same as physical health issues.

It kind of is when you are rich. You can just get help and pay for help.

It can be hard to take action and reach out, but that wasn't Meghan's complaint.

The full quote makes it sound worse. It is an shocking thing for someone who works in mental health to say.

Oh dear. Many of the people who need her charity’s help will have been dismissed like this.

The competitive nonsense of ‘I’ve also suffered’ is very unfortunate too.

Very disappointing to see someone make such a major error of judgment in such a vulnerable area.

The only person I know who died from suicide was very well off. She was judged very harshly by some who thought she couldn’t possibly be depressed and was told not to ‘play the victim card’ as she was she was so privileged that she couldn’t be a victim. The shame and the attitudes of those around her stopped her from seeking help for a long time. When she finally did, in secret, the help wasn’t effective. And now she’s dead. Found by her adult kids, who now are also plagued with mental health issues through trauma. But they’re rich, they inherited mums fortune, so I guess I should tell them to stop being victims, just get help and they’ll be all better.

Anyone who thinks like that can fuck right off.

@ClearRunning I am so sorry to hear this. The only person I was very close to who killed themselves while not rich had no money worries at all and had money to spend. Someone who is involved in mental health should know it is not just a case of paying for help. You have to know you need help, what kind of help you need, and to make the right choice to get the right help. And even then it does not always work. Severe mental health issues are not easily sorted.
And PND which it sounds like Meghan had can affect anyone.

Nice to hear someone not afraid to stand up and be counted. Meghan markle never complained of mental health problems in all her 37 years before she married Harry, and now in America, not a peep about her MH.

As for feeling suicidal and asking HR? WTAF. Harry had his therapist on speed dial (as proven by dog bowlgate) yet he never offered this help to Meghan? Really? This devoted husband who demanded she have whatever she wanted? The obstetrician or midwife never asked how she was? Like that never (it always happens) happened?

She was apparently bawling her eyes out in the dark, at a public appearance at the theatre. I wonder how her makeup was just perfect when the lights went up and they stood for applause?

MM used MH because of Harry's MH issues, to seek victimhood. Her story has more holes than a collander. Only two people say she had MH issues and no surprise who they are. Thank goodness someone has the guts to challenge a fabricated story for the sake of drama by (who would have guessed) an actress.

@AttentionAll These 'MH issues' happend when she was pregnant, not PND.