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Something unknown under police guard when Queen died

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sukiwh · 21/01/2023 20:09

Colleague claims her friend’s son who is a police officer was stationed at TECA, Aberdeen’s exhibition centre, from the morning of the day the Queen died until after her coffin had left Aberdeen. Apparently this was a 24 hour, round the clock guard, by lots of junior police officers and soldiers - but the reason for it was never explained to those undertaking it. None of them were briefed on why they were guarding the building.

Why would this be? I don’t for a second believe the Queen was in the exhibition centre, as has been suggested by colleague. She indicated that the convoy we watched on that Sunday morning was a decoy. It has bothered me for months though. TECA is very close to Aberdeen airport, wondered if it might relate to the movements of the RF. But then, would the soldiers and officers not be told why they were there?

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sukiwh · 22/01/2023 22:19

ThePoshUns · 22/01/2023 20:17

Agreed. He's breached the official secrets act and could lose his job.

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Your comment shows you have no idea what “the official secrets act” is.

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ThePoshUns · 22/01/2023 23:24

Whatever OP police officers shouldn't be telling their Mother's confidentiality information about their jobs. Especially mothers who blab to their mates.

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sukiwh · 22/01/2023 23:36

ThePoshUns · 22/01/2023 23:24

Whatever OP police officers shouldn't be telling their Mother's confidentiality information about their jobs. Especially mothers who blab to their mates.

Their attendance at TECA wasn’t a secret. As PPs have said, lots of buildings were used for various reasons during the timeframe we’re talking about. The secret was what they were guarding, which he quite clearly didn’t blab about, as he didn’t know.

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vera99 · 22/01/2023 23:55

I've emailed Harry for his consideration to add to Spare 2 - the inside story of my visit to Granny's funeral. You'll have to wait to then....😀

The suggestion it was a temporary barracks to brigade all the perosnnel invloved in managing the coffin and the RF seems to be the most likely explanation.

vera99 · 22/01/2023 23:59

CathyorClaire · 22/01/2023 21:02

This has reminded me of the conspiracy theory that Diana was dug up from her island grave at Althorp and transferred to the family crypt in the local church.

I actually believe that one

I hadn't known that .

vera99 · 23/01/2023 00:00

A comment under the article seems to confirm that.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/inside-crypt-princess-diana-secretly-19777083

I have spoken to the groundsman of sais church and he confirmed that whenever the boys come to Althorpe the first place they visit is the church... take from that what you like.

CrapBucket · 23/01/2023 00:02

I think Tom Hanks led the reburial of Princess Di of Our Hearts, as part of his work cracking the Da Vinci stuff.

vera99 · 23/01/2023 01:52

When she is eventually canonised which she should surely be pilgrims will go to the tomb for miracles. Maybe Charles should go to ask for forgiveness and get Harry back.

TangledWebOfDeception · 23/01/2023 11:30

That’s probably what he did wrong, tbh - he never knelt by her gravestone to ask for guidance. Stupid mistake Your Majesty. How different it all could have been! <weeps>

huckie · 23/01/2023 11:50

Maybe they were guarding a Crown?

Sugarfree23 · 23/01/2023 13:20

I don't think the crown was in Scotland. I think when she got to Edinburgh she had the Scottish Crown but I don't remember it being on the coffin on its way down from Aberdeen. It was a standard herse they used to get to Edinburgh.

Purely my guess but the herse they had built for her that went from London to Windsor with the E on the glass was probably fitted with bullet proof glass to protect the crown jewels.

Nocaloriesinchocolate · 23/01/2023 17:58

ITs perfectly obvious what they were doing - Madam Edith was inside and they were making sure she didn’t come out to sing a mournful ballad

huckie · 23/01/2023 21:39

It was the Scottish crown I was thinking of but in fact her coffin held a wreath of white flowers when it came to Edinburgh. The Scottish honours were placed at St Giles and not removed until the airport.

A friend of mine nearly got run over when they returned with armed guard heading to the castle at high speed. They stopped for no-one!

upinaballoon · 23/01/2023 22:19
  1. Do police officers sign the Official Secrets Act? Do they tell their families about cases they're on?
  2. Do servicemen sign the Official Secrets Act?
  3. I signed it.
  4. This thread has caused me to think about how very much organising there was to do in that short time after the Queen's death. I know the hymns etc. were probably chosen years ago, but I mean the putting into action of the long-made plans. When Henry VIII went to York for a couple of weeks he had to take fields-full of soldiers and cooks. While I'm busy tugging my forelock I like to be reminded of all the logistics, if that's the right word.
  5. I like this thread and I have roared with laughter at the posts which were meant to make us laugh.
TrashyPanda · 23/01/2023 23:16

CathyorClaire · 22/01/2023 21:02

This has reminded me of the conspiracy theory that Diana was dug up from her island grave at Althorp and transferred to the family crypt in the local church.

I actually believe that one

The locals say she was never buried on the island - has always been in the church crypt

Underminer · 24/01/2023 02:40

Don’t know why they needed the guards, nobody would dare touch a gestapo sausage.

notangelinajolie · 24/01/2023 10:00

Who needs national security when your friends son is there to protect us all 🫤

Mummyoflittledragon · 24/01/2023 10:50

TrashyPanda · 23/01/2023 23:16

The locals say she was never buried on the island - has always been in the church crypt

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Allo allo London calling.

Didn’t Meghan put her hand on the gravestone and ask ummm, for guidance? Surely the boys would know if this were the case.

Loving this thread. Spiffing wheeze.

LavenderHillMob · 24/01/2023 22:46

Probably guarding all the tartan paint. I remember DH was at a terrorist incident years ago and was told not to park on the grass.

In case he ran over the SAS Grin

SleekMamma · 24/01/2023 22:53

I actually watched allo Allo at the weekend because of this thread!
Omg it was so funny.
When Michelle speaks English English to the airmen, then says exactly the same thing in a french accent. Cracked me up

Underminer · 25/01/2023 01:46

Perhaps it was Monsiieur Alfonse, the Undertaker!

i need to rewatch Allo Allo. Such a clever series

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sukiwh · 26/01/2023 19:15

upinaballoon · 23/01/2023 22:19

  1. Do police officers sign the Official Secrets Act? Do they tell their families about cases they're on?
  2. Do servicemen sign the Official Secrets Act?
  3. I signed it.
  4. This thread has caused me to think about how very much organising there was to do in that short time after the Queen's death. I know the hymns etc. were probably chosen years ago, but I mean the putting into action of the long-made plans. When Henry VIII went to York for a couple of weeks he had to take fields-full of soldiers and cooks. While I'm busy tugging my forelock I like to be reminded of all the logistics, if that's the right word.
  5. I like this thread and I have roared with laughter at the posts which were meant to make us laugh.

You might know better but I feel like the Act is not the thing people sign. I had to read an extract and then sign an NDA-type document saying I had read and understood it. Worked for a global company that supplied systems to the defence sector. Had a clause in that said I would not be prosecuted if info was extracted from me by torture! I knew nothing that was not already in the public domain, but if I did, and told someone, I wouldn’t be in breach of the Official Secrets Act, but in breach of the NDA I had signed… I think.

I reckon police and service men will have to sign similar docs for various scopes of work, but doubt the young guy in OP would be breaching anything by telling his mum where he went to work that day!

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TrashyPanda · 26/01/2023 23:10

You do not have to sign the OS Act to be bound by its terms

Crown Servants do sign the Act - and this includes civil servants, police, members of the armed forces and the judiciary

The Official Secrets Act 1989 creates an offence for the unlawful disclosure of information in six specific categories by employees and former employees of the security and intelligence services, and for current and former Crown Servants and Government contractors

more details here

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7422/

user1492757084 · 11/02/2023 14:27

Perhaps stored under guard were the hearse, armoured cars, uniforms for bands, fuel, flowers, and everything and anything needed to supply the influx of people and prepare for church service, flight to London etc.

Calling · 18/02/2023 13:18

Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink · 21/01/2023 20:36

literally no other people have mentioned this!

Glad they were doing their jobs tbh! Good job you weren’t on the crew, OP!

Probably because it was meant to be a secret, for a good reason.