Did William really cheat on Kate?

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I keep hearing this rumour and I'm just curious to know where it comes from? Where is the evidence?

I think you make good points, Roussette, particularly about the children. Which is why some of the stuff on here is so unpleasant. I also note that you never get personal with your comments, no negative remarks attacking the person, so it's possible to discuss. A very vexed question indeed.

I do hope so Roussette.

The world has changed since the Queen was a child. There isn’t the deference there once was. The selling of royal pictures has become a world wide hugely profitable industry. (And it’s not Republicans buying Hello Magazine!)

Virtually every single person the royal
dc will encounter will have a camera phone. Imagine growing up knowing that your friends or acquaintances could potentially sell a story about you for thousands of pounds? Imagine the strain that would put on your relationships?

(I think Harry alluded to this in the recent court case against the Mail group.)

We can still have all the pomp of military parades and ceremonies to celebrate our history if that is what everyone wants, but why exploit the travails of one family for our own prurient interest?

What makes me cross though is the accusation on this thread that apparently you and I and Republicans on this thread are the ones with “malevolent intent” who want to ‘destroy people’s souls’ or whatever the phrase was? While Monarchists apparently take the higher moral road! What utter tosh!

I totally agree. I did once on a thread say George was very sweet but I felt he was a bit sensitive and it could be difficult for him. OMG was I slated for that.

Me too on both counts. He looks quite overwhelmed at times whereas Charlotte is clearly more outgoing (and Louis to some extent although he's younger).

It's not a criticism, he hasn't chosen it and is a normal child like any other of his age. Being born to K&W doesn't bestow magical gifts, although I'm sure he'll receive the necessary guidance.

That’s a funny comment coming from you Derxa

Thank you CurlewKate

What you just posted is the whole point to what Harry is saying.

Much resistance now. But hopefully, in the end, they will take his advice and change how the monarchy works - especially for the sake of William's children.

It might not be what you or I choose but let's be totally honest about it, William and Kate can walk away if they want to. Edward VIII did, Harry and Meghan did. They are making a choice, no doubt they have weighed up the pros and cons and made their decision, George will be able to do the same.

I'm neither republican or royalist and I don't think I need to lobby for a well educated, intelligent couple who are perfectly capable of making their own decisions.

I hope you're right about the children, @notanotheroneagain , although Harry and Meghan have chosen to share some of their private moments with their children eg bath time, meal times, playing, the party etc. That is of course their choice as parents and they chose to share much of their lives, especially Harry, in some detail. Perhaps their children will be spared some inquisition, although posters on here saying that W&K are asking for it because they put out pictures, should bear in mind that Archie and Lilibet may have similar issues.

Thank you. 🐇

I just feel for them. I think they are just fab. But family dynamics will be exacerbated the older they get. No 'Spare' as such... but there will be the favoured one of course. What a responsibility.

I agree. But it's such a huge massive thing to walk away. It's not like 2 months of press about it, then peace for them. They will be criticised, treated with disdain, and followed around for a very lont time. Or until there's another Royal to focus on and shred.

For the next 10 years, this is H&M. Until the kids become fodder for the vile press in our country. Then the media might move away and onto them.

It sounds cynical, and I apologise for that, but I do think I am being realistic here.

I agree ancientgran

The option to go is there. For all concerned.

On another note. I’m not sure I’m comfortable discussing the children of the Royal Family on here. How they feel. What they look like. Etc.

Not everyone on here will be posting with the best of intentions.

You're right, Roussette, although the decision to have 3 children was probably wise in terms of dynamics. Who knows what the future holds for them, or for Archie and Lilibet, whose parents are kind of royals/celebrities and choose to share much of their lives.

Is it? Do I know you?

Best decision ever to have 3. Absolutely. Probably if there had been another sibling for W and H, maybe we wouldn't be in this mess!

No. Your posting nn is recognisable though. You are telling me to stop speculating and to focus on my own life when you are commenting and speculating on Mumsnet rather a lot!

That’s a fair point ancientgran and I hope they do. I certainly wouldn’t want my dc going through what theirs will have to face in future.

I rarely post these days actually but I hate scurrilous gossip. I've had it in my own life and it nearly drove me to a nervous breakdown.

Here we go again! <eye roll>

You are too morally above the rest of us to comment on the royal children ArcaneWireless but you are happy to support the reality of them living under a public spotlight? That’s marvellous!

And if you are passively aggressively talking about my intentions by any chance - they are absolutely clear - I am a Republican and I am honest about it. That doesn’t make me a terrible person.

I don’t have to resort to constantly making snide little side references about it either.

I am very sorry you had to endure that Derxa.

Sorry to hear that, @derxa 💐that kind of scurrilous gossip and rumour mongering is vile and I hope you're ok. Upthread some of us were talking about the impact of that on our lives and it's absolutely shit. Some people just don't understand how it destroys lives. Take care.

Not morally above anyone. I’m not passive aggressively talking about anyone either. I just think all of the kids should be off limits.

I’ve not said anyone is a terrible person either for being a republican either.

As for snide references? Plenty of those on this thread. I have been open about what I think.

And yes Derxa. Me too. And I don’t think anyone who hasn’t been through that really knows how bad it can get.

although posters on here saying that W&K are asking for it because they put out pictures, should bear in mind that Archie and Lilibet may have similar issues.

I don’t think a single poster has said on here that W & K are “asking for it”
have they?

I made the wider point that if you invite the entire nation to take an interest in your wedding and allow it to be broadcast on tv, then the RF can hardly find it surprising when the general public also take an interest in the continuing relationship of the two participants and their offspring.

@derxa the sense of injustice and powerlessness, is the worst!
It does make you very intolerant of rumours and bullying.

Although in theory Will and Kate could walk away - just as Charles could have done - now that Harry and Meghan have gone it makes it much, much harder. I think some of their hurt and resentment towards the Hollywood royals is that more of the burden of ceremony and duty falls on them, reducing their freedom to be the Waitrose family royals - cooking their own food and having a semi private life in Norfolk. If they were to walk away now they are effectively narrowing the chance of the Crown's continuance. That's a hell of a burden of a decision on one couple and I'm sure not one that Charles or others would welcome. They have been brought up to do their duty and sustain the house of Windsor for posterity. Of course in reality it will have to end sometime - it's simply out of keeping with modern day democracy, equalities and human rights. Just look at the recent reports of their private wealth and assets whilst many in their country struggle to choose between heating and eating. It's disgraceful.

And if they were to walk away the whole facade falls away - no one seriously would want Edward, Andrew, Beatrice or Eugenie or even the prodigal son Harry popping the crown on.

Thanks it was many years ago. I was scared to walk down the high street of my local town. If the royals are wise they won't read Twitter or any of the social media stuff. I feel sorry for Meghan and Kate. The made up stuff is vicious about both