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ttcstop · 2023-01-20T23:12:17+00:00

I keep hearing this rumour and I'm just curious to know where it comes from? Where is the evidence?

Maireas · 05/04/2023 18:58

Spot on, @derxa

Roussette · 05/04/2023 18:59

ArcaneWireless · 05/04/2023 18:55

I would imagine that the people who turn out to events and the like would soon start chopsing if Kate hoiked up her frock, got William to push past the drunk relieving himself in the alley and tried desperately not to lock eyes with the young ones shagging by the bins just so they could sneak inside.

I think I would rather take my bloody chances going in through the front door too.

Blimey, there's a big exaggeration lol.

Were you the poster who talked about William eating lobster and Harry cat food? Cos it's on a par with that!

Of course there's surreptitious entry into venues if that is what you want! It's up to them isn't it?

I just don't agree that they want to be low key and not seen at this sort of thing.

derxa · 05/04/2023 19:02

I just don't agree that they want to be low key and not seen at this sort of thing. Who thinks that they do. It's part of their job

Coxspurplepippin · 05/04/2023 19:02

'Were you the poster who talked about William eating lobster and Harry cat food? Cos it's on a par with that!'

No, that was moi. I was being really, really serious about Harry eating cat food. Deadly serious. I hope you recognise the seriousness of the comment. No exaggeration. Just seriousness. ----

Maireas · 05/04/2023 19:03

Roussette · 05/04/2023 18:56

Nowhere have I said that. I am not the slightest bit interested in what William has or has not done. All I said was, he'd be a fool if he had strayed because Kate is the glue that holds the RF together for the future.

My post of 18.22 was disputing what a poster said ... that they wouldn't care if people wereen't interested in them. Of course they care! Without the oxygen of publicity they would fade into oblivion.

I do agree with @Onthenextcourt67 in part. I'm afraid the rumours come with the territory, unpleasant though it is. That is not me condoning it, but every single famous person gets gossiped about and they are no different.

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Well, that's a bit different, isn't it? Upthread it was all about them loving publicity and pretty much asking for it. I can see, however, that you disagree in that respect.
I just think that putting out rumours that can hurt and destroy is indefensible.
These are people's lives, it's not entertainment.

Roussette · 05/04/2023 19:04

derxa · 05/04/2023 19:02

I just don't agree that they want to be low key and not seen at this sort of thing. Who thinks that they do. It's part of their job

My post of 18.22 explains it.

ArcaneWireless · 05/04/2023 19:04

I don’t know about the lobster and cat food debate. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Harry might need to make use of Deliveroo though - far more choice.

I didn’t say they don’t want to be seen. I said there is a reason why they choose to be seen. I just don’t think they personally need to be seen.

Serenster · 05/04/2023 19:04

Look at that Tom Cruise film. A long walk together dressed up to the nines, Tom Cruise helping Kate up the stairs etc. They could've gone in the back door if they wanted. It was dress up time, and be seen. That is not a criticism, just fact in my book. Feeding the insatiable desire of the media.

The Top Gun Maverick premiere was a Royal Film Performance, organised in aid of the Film and TV Charity. So, they were there to raise money for the charity. If the charity sells the event as a “Royal” film performance, the people who bought the tickets presumably expect to actually see some Royals…

Roussette · 05/04/2023 19:07

Maireas · 05/04/2023 19:03

Well, that's a bit different, isn't it? Upthread it was all about them loving publicity and pretty much asking for it. I can see, however, that you disagree in that respect.
I just think that putting out rumours that can hurt and destroy is indefensible.
These are people's lives, it's not entertainment.

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Where have I said those words? I just disagreed with a poster who said they didn't give a flying one, if the public were interested in them or not.

They want publicity. They need publicity. When it is for good causes, and highlights those causes, that is great. But it is sometimes just being seen.

I haven't changed my stance in the slightest for your information

Samcro · 05/04/2023 19:07

Surely they have to be seen. If not what is the point of them. The RF get to live in splendour. The least they can do is turn up for thing’s like a visit to a food bank.

Roussette · 05/04/2023 19:09

We'll go round in circles on this one, I can see.

Roussette · 05/04/2023 19:11

Serenster · 05/04/2023 19:04

Look at that Tom Cruise film. A long walk together dressed up to the nines, Tom Cruise helping Kate up the stairs etc. They could've gone in the back door if they wanted. It was dress up time, and be seen. That is not a criticism, just fact in my book. Feeding the insatiable desire of the media.

The Top Gun Maverick premiere was a Royal Film Performance, organised in aid of the Film and TV Charity. So, they were there to raise money for the charity. If the charity sells the event as a “Royal” film performance, the people who bought the tickets presumably expect to actually see some Royals…

You've been busy on google

Coxspurplepippin · 05/04/2023 19:12

'It was dress up time, and be seen. That is not a criticism, just fact in my book. Feeding the insatiable desire of the media.'

But we rarely see any of the RF unless they're 'on duty'. That's the day job - to visit factories and shops, playgroups and dog charities, film premieres and concerts, highlighting the entities they're visiting. Charles and Camilla have been in Yorkshire today - they visited some small scale food producers who were absolutely thrilled by the visit and the publicity it engendered. They're photographed while out and about doing their job. They don't 'court' the media for publicity, they do what they do and are photographed.

Maireas · 05/04/2023 19:14

Roussette · 05/04/2023 19:07

Where have I said those words? I just disagreed with a poster who said they didn't give a flying one, if the public were interested in them or not.

They want publicity. They need publicity. When it is for good causes, and highlights those causes, that is great. But it is sometimes just being seen.

I haven't changed my stance in the slightest for your information

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Thank you for your information. For your information I haven't changed my views. If you're famous, even royal - malicious gossip is not acceptable.

Roussette · 05/04/2023 19:20

Maireas · 05/04/2023 19:14

Thank you for your information. For your information I haven't changed my views. If you're famous, even royal - malicious gossip is not acceptable.

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And I have not said it is acceptable have I ? Sorry to disappoint you on that!

I have said it happens with everyone well known, famous, celebrity, royal. Unpleasant though it is. I don't like it one bit. But it does happen, we all know it does. The media and SM can be very toxic.

Nono22972 · 05/04/2023 19:23

Roussette · 05/04/2023 18:46

I see it different Serenster. Yes exposure for good causes, and that is very relevant. But lots of other functions and premieres and sporting events they go to. Not in the back door, but in full glare of publicity.

Look at that Tom Cruise film. A long walk together dressed up to the nines, Tom Cruise helping Kate up the stairs etc. They could've gone in the back door if they wanted. It was dress up time, and be seen. That is not a criticism, just fact in my book. Feeding the insatiable desire of the media.

They need to be seen.

The Queen herself used to see that royals "need to be seen to be believed". Correct me if I'm wrong

Coxspurplepippin · 05/04/2023 19:28

Roussette · 05/04/2023 18:46

I see it different Serenster. Yes exposure for good causes, and that is very relevant. But lots of other functions and premieres and sporting events they go to. Not in the back door, but in full glare of publicity.

Look at that Tom Cruise film. A long walk together dressed up to the nines, Tom Cruise helping Kate up the stairs etc. They could've gone in the back door if they wanted. It was dress up time, and be seen. That is not a criticism, just fact in my book. Feeding the insatiable desire of the media.

They need to be seen.

As pointed out, the TC film was a royal charity performance. Members of the RF go to concerts, the theatre etc without any publicity at all when they're just out for an evening to see a play or go to the ballet.

Maireas · 05/04/2023 19:30

Roussette · 05/04/2023 19:20

And I have not said it is acceptable have I ? Sorry to disappoint you on that!

I have said it happens with everyone well known, famous, celebrity, royal. Unpleasant though it is. I don't like it one bit. But it does happen, we all know it does. The media and SM can be very toxic.

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Indeed. No need for anyone to start it up on here and add to it. That's my point.

Cokefans · 05/04/2023 20:09

It’s a tough job - but someone has to do it! 😂

Onthenextcourt67 · 05/04/2023 20:22

Mmm rather a lot of hypocrisy here.

Both republicans and monarchists have bumped this thread in to “active” many times!

And a pp revived the nasty comment about Diana being a loose cannon.

I imagine people have mixed reasons for commenting. Some of us are republicans and we have a right to express an opinion. I’ve been quite complimentary about K & W as individuals as it happens.

Not all of us have “personal vendettas” against individual members of the royal family, or a wish to cause any of them harm. Bluntly, most of them create their own problems without any help from random posters on Mumsnet!

ArcaneWireless · 05/04/2023 20:24

Rather her than me! She looks stunning there.

I would need a frock four times that size, serious underpinnings and a strict no photography rule as my face isn’t even fit for radio.

I’m bob on for the zombie apocalypse though.

And I’d swap Tom for Jason Isaacs or Colin Salmon. Even if they weren’t in the film. 😉

Maireas · 05/04/2023 20:34

@Onthenextcourt67 - they create their own problems? That sounds like victim blaming. I don't think anyone deserves what this thread set out to do. At all.
You're right about the hypocrisy, though. Awful to think that William and Kate deserve such treatment just because they're royal.

Maireas · 05/04/2023 20:37

You'd look fabulous, @ArcaneWireless ! Plus Colin Salmon should be so lucky 😉!

ArcaneWireless · 05/04/2023 20:38

Oh that pp was me. Resurrected in response to apples not falling far from the tree and things that have been mentioned elsewhere about other royals. And after someone had resurrected a months old thread for no reason other than to generate froth about K&W. Just as they often do about H&M.

Diana wasn’t a saint, she was as flawed as the rest of us. And yes, in my opinion, she was acting irresponsibly. As you say, we have a right to an opinion and I’m going with what she said and did at the time. I’m not repeating rumours about affairs. Though there were plenty of them around too.

I am fairly interested in the cat food thing. I missed that post.

Coxspurplepippin · 05/04/2023 20:45

Arcanewireless, here is the dog food post for your delectation.

I was being serious about Harry eating cat food, as you can probably tell, context wise.....

'I think most parents would find it wrong, on a parenting forum, for one child to be treated more favourably and be given more just because they were born first.'

So what are we saying? That Harry, despite his incredibly privileged upbringing, his expensive schooling at an elite establishment, the role in the army he would never have had access to without his background, the covering up of misdemeanours which would have seen a person from a less privileged background sacked, the opportunities for travel etc, etc that he feels hard done by because he won't be king?

Has he really been treated any differently as a member of the family? William has a role to play. If Harry had stayed within the 'royal' bit of the family, he would have had the large apartment at Kensington Palace, the nice country house, the staff, the social occasions. But he decided it wasn't for him and left. So why feel hard done by? You make it sound as if William was living in a palace feasting on lobster while Harry slummed it in a garden shed, eating cat food out of a tin.