Did William really cheat on Kate?

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I keep hearing this rumour and I'm just curious to know where it comes from? Where is the evidence?

A whole new meaning to 'smear campaign'

Apparently their sales have shot up. Good for them.

They should use Candle in the wind for the ad music.

You are welcome Elton.

Frosty the Snowman at Christmas. With a sad looking frazzled carrot.

@fruitstick 😂😂😂

@ArcaneWireless - brilliant! 😂😂😂

Smear campaign. 🤣

As Oprah would say ‘what?’ 😱

From Spare and the interviews it appears that Harry has been incandescent with rage against William for his whole life, not just in recent years.
No idea about an affair but K and W look happy and in tune when working together, which his parents were not able to fake.

There are lots of videos on Instagram and TikTok of them out and about and filmed by bystanders and there does seem to be a real chemistry between them - I think it would be hard to fake. Of course that doesn’t rule out an affair but they do seem v in tune with each other. I do find it hard to believe the affair rumours.

Catherine also comes across as really warm in her interactions with the crowd on videos filmed by the crowd. Harry described her when he met her as fun and kind. I imagine the stability offered by Kates family has been fantastic for W and something Harry hasn’t had.

@Spck I am sure you’re right, he was close to Tiggy & seems fond of her, hopefully she gave him counsel & comfort.

I met them before Christmas, when they came to Wales.

They do genuinely come across as a couple with a genuine warmth for one another.

I was also surprised when Catherine said she was going home to put the children to bed, but William was travelling further to another city for an engagement in the morning.

You got a bit of a sense that they are a bit of a normal couple even in their weird circumstance.

Who knows, really?

I find it hard to believe that Pippa would give her child the same name as her BIL's mistress. Who would do that, especially when the sisters seem close. I wouldn't name my child after my BIL's second wife because my sister would hate that, even though there was no cheating involved. It's even harder to believe when the BIL is in the royal family and therefore the truth will probably come out eventually and Pippa will look awful then. And the idea that she would choose a name purely as some double bluff to throw the papers off the scent is ridiculous, I mean, come on.

The negative stories about Meghan in 2019 were the bullying claims I think, that people kept leaving and the Sussexes were difficult to work for? And Harry seems to have backed those up with his tales of staff members with head in hands. So I don't think those stories were fabricated to hide William's affair.

But who knows? Maybe it was a different OW and the palace were lucky that Meghan started shouting at people at just the right time to take the heat off.

The scandalous Tory minister Alan Clark used to troll Lord Hesletine with the jibe " the sort of person who bought his own furniture" i.e he made his money rather than relied on inherited wealth. His long suffering aristo wife (they lived in a castle) , Caroline Jane, on his infidelities remarked, after the details of his seduction of a South African judge's wife and two daughters hit the press: "If you bed people of below-stairs class, they will go to the papers."

That the Brit upper class is riddled with class prejudice and a degree of contempt for the lower orders shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. There's good reason that 22 of this country's PM's have come from one school Eton nestling in the shadow of Windsor Castle. My brother who moved to Norfolk was jokily told it will take 3 generations before you're truly local.

After all the genetic problems and ill health caused by inter-breeding with royal blood over the centuries it is seen better these days to bring in that of "lower orders" to increase the strength of the blood stock. No wonder they like breeding horses.....

The Mail and the rest of them seem to want their cake and eat it the real power is not with the Royals, and hasn't been for a long time, they need to dance to the tune of darker forces or face their wrath. They are in a pact with the devil as Harry correctly surmises and one that had a role to play in the early death of his mother. All this stuff came out in 2017 and even had the DM accuse the Prince of being workshy, whatever next ! The RF should listen to the Manic Street Preachers - if you tolerate this then your children will be next.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4317340/Prince-William-captured-camera-showing-moves.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4359912/Model-Sophie-Taylor-returns-home-Australia.html

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4312874/the-blonde-pictured-partying-Prince-William.html

I suspect it is true, only because if there was absolutely nothing to it, there wouldn’t be the same constant name coming out. Rose has always been identified as the OW, if it was just gossip or rumours, then firstly the OW wouldn’t have been named, but secondly, if there was a name, it would be disputed. I wouldn’t allow the press to print my name and say I as having an affair if I wasn’t?!

That all being said, I don’t care to think about it for long. I don’t particularly like Will or Kate, they seem very disingenuous to me.

I actually very briefly met Will as my partner did a documentary with him about running the london marathon. He was very unpleasant but my interaction was minimal.

What's wrong with these articles? I don't get it. On one occasion PW was out of his head drunk or more likely on some sort of drug (E?) and let his hair down <ahem>.

No chance that he was unfaithful, he just had a crazy party and was out of it. Who knows, his drink might have even be spiked, that's what I'm assuming.

Vera, I'm not sure you know what power is but a few photos of a prince partying is hardly a big deal.

I'm surprised MN is ok with threads like this, is it in the spirit to speculate about families in this way? Posters claiming they just know that PW and RH had a thing, do you know that you are bullying Rose as well as the Wales and Cholmondeley dc?

The youngest Cholmondeley girl is only 6 but Charlotte, George and Rose's two older dc all have to face this sort of bullshit gossip at school. Whatever and if anything happened between PW and RH by speculating about them you are basically online bullying 6 young children as well as Rose, a mother of young dc 😞. Just why?

The Mail and the other tabloids are like hungry wolves ready to devour their prey should they choose so to do. There is a lot of nudge nudge wink wink going on in there and an implicit power we can find stuff about you and print if we so wish. This is what Harry majors on his book - they have been thrown to the wolves to take the spotlight from the heirs in a unholy pact. Royal watching is like Kremlinology during the cold war the meaning is in the indirect clues.

Therein lies the fault line with the royals the fact that need to court popularity if they are to remain popular but that popularity can only really come through the lens of the media they must secretly despise and one with Harry however imperfectly is at war with.

What nonsense. I remember for many years Anne got negative press because she never fitted the mythical ideal of a perfect princess. She never courted popularity, and was often tormented by journalists. She just learned to get on with what she was doing and her work speaks for itself. She never "courted" popularity.

I don't think they were thrown to the wolves. I think their own actions and words are what have made them unpopular, not the press.

And funnily enough, that's exactly what people love about her now.

Post Diana and a less respectful and deferential press there is a need to manage the media narrative - they are "The Firm" after all. The Queen (and Princess Anne) didn't need to because they fulfilled the roles splendidly and to satisfaction of most. Charles had a lot of damage to repair and a spouse to rehabilitate, that said,and as Harry underlines in the book they are all tireless workers. The article from the Mail above is more clucking about his lack of work ethic rather than any supposed indiscretion and makes a point about him missing an important Commonwealth event attended by all the other Royals to leave his wife behind and have a jolly. Hence the dolittles nickname they are sometimes called.

Exactly. Don't give the press a tonne of material to work with.

I'm not sure what your point is, @vera99
Is it to prove that William also gets bad press, not just Harry?
Don't most people know that?

There may be a bit of nudge nudge wink wink in those articles. Perhaps instead of being mealie mouthed sly fuckers they can just say what they see a la Catchphrase.

There are a lot of sly folk about I find. To me, and I may be mistaken, it just looks like they need to try to redress the balance because they are aghast that the favourite has become a laughing stock by his own hand. And despite him propping up his wife in her endeavours, they are quietly wondering why she is Hide and Seek champion amid the somewhat tawdry revelations. Not that I blame her for that.

As Maireas rightly says, they both get bad press. Only one of them has given them a heap of actual material to play with though.

There aren’t enough tats in the world to make up for all that tit has done.