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The royal family

Did William really cheat on Kate?

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ttcstop · 20/01/2023 23:12

I keep hearing this rumour and I'm just curious to know where it comes from? Where is the evidence?

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MonsoonMadness · 21/01/2023 16:56

Wiluli · 21/01/2023 16:49

I think you need to heck Kate’s history as her parents are not considered upper class at all .

No one said they were upper class did they?

Mingmoo · 21/01/2023 16:57

@AttentionAll most people who have affairs aren't famous in most countries on earth. Everyone has a camera in their pocket these days.

wishingyouwell · 21/01/2023 16:59

So does Dany Dyer.

She isn't aristocratic.

MonsoonMadness · 21/01/2023 17:00

wishingyouwell · 21/01/2023 16:55

Millionaire doesn't make you upper class so yes, William married a lower class. No amount of money would have changed that.
Diana's family are indeed considered more aristocratic than the RF. That's my point. I think that was partly what gave Diana the confidence to challenge the status quo.
When you marry a lower class girl and social climber it's easier to control her and you can get away with much more.

lower class girl and social climber. Lovely. You sound awful.

Mingmoo · 21/01/2023 17:05

Also, let's just point out the obvious - even when Kate is queen, the very small upper echelon of British society won't see her as belonging to their class. (In my view she's far better than that - she seems to have a better grasp of what real life is like, and she's developed interests that are genuinely valuable to society like the early years stuff and the arts.) If she was social climbing (gross) she would have got as far as she's going. She's mother to a future king and that wouldn't change even if they were divorced. The idea that she's hanging on in there to be anointed posh is batshit.

billy1966 · 21/01/2023 17:08

Onthenextcourt67 · 21/01/2023 11:14

I think this is a credible theory.

Haven't watched the full interviews but have seen a few snippets here and there.

Harry is incandescent clearly and the above and @Cormakorma are theories that make the most sense as to the origin of his anger.

It speaks to his assertions of injustice.

I couldn't see Kate Middleton contemplating divorce for a second and I think Harry won't come straight out with it either.

However a Sussex divorce would mean the ugliest or truths could be revealed, no doubt with proof via old texts referencing it.

limoncello23 · 21/01/2023 17:17

Kate's mother was born working class/lower middle class. She married well in a social sense and is a successful business woman in her own right. She is now upper middle class, albeit slightly nouveau riche.

Kate's father was born upper middle class-ish, with trust funds for education but very little hard cash. He took a professional job, and joined his wife's business venture when it started becoming successful. He married well from a financial point of view. He is now firmly upper middle class.

As a child, Kate was a professional middle class heading towards upper middle class. Her expensive education was paid for by her father's family's trust funds and her parents became multimillionaires when she was a teenager. At least since leaving school if not before, she's been firmly upper middle class.

The Middletons also appear to be a close knit family that get on well with each other. Carole and Michael appear to have married well in the sense that they have been married for 40+ years and still seem happy together (ie, in the best sense).

Interestingly, Kate Middleton, Sophie Rhys-Jones and Timothy Laurence all have surprisingly similar backgrounds although Kate's family started with a lot less money and now have a lot more money, compared to the other two.

William has an upper class family background, with his mother's family being more established than his father's, if such things are important.

The Windsors' issues are well known.

William might have cheated on Kate, but there's no definitive evidence either way. There are widely reported rumours in relation to a specific affair which you can choose to believe or disbelieve (or not care about), and that's it.

Peverellshire · 21/01/2023 17:19

The aristos/upper class def saw Kate as pretty comparatively, common & gave her a hard time. They can be savage if you’re not a PLU, as they see it. ‘Doors to manual’. A ‘GARY’ in the fam! Etc..Prob one reason why things didn’t go swimmingly for Meghan at the Toff shooting party too (that was really an excuse for a bender). Poor H thought they’d be blown away by this beauteous, model girlfriend, a famous actress no less, he knew he was punching ‘for a ginger’ (why is he palpably so under confident)?

All these people on Mumsnet that say are the ‘true Toffs’ drive around in battered cars with Labs etc & holes in shoez &are nice about the ‘ordinary folk’, let me tell you now they’re often referring to you as an ‘F..ing peasant ‘behind your back.

Some are good eggs, but many will rip those who betray any insecurity to shreds & God help you if you make a faux pas or show weakness, if they smell blood you’re toast.

There’s a reason the ex public school they say can survive & thrive in prison.

Kate will never truly, truly be accepted but has probably earned her stripes & won their respect by now but as they’ll say themselves, you can never ‘move classes’. Her kids will be automatically accepted.

The waspish snobbishness in the UK still astounds me, but prob exists to some degree globally. The basic fear of the outsider…

stillavid · 21/01/2023 17:20

If he did cheat, I really hope Kate does divorce him and takes up with some gorgeous man who treats her well.

Others clearly disagree but I really don't think she enjoys all the attention - I would guess she is fairly introverted by nature and doesn't like all the public speaking etc. To not enjoy that side of the role and be cheated on - well I would be off with a nice settlement and leave William to it with his crazy family.

MrsJPGarcia · 21/01/2023 17:27

Aliceteacup · 21/01/2023 07:45

Similar to the person who knows someone in their security team who confirmed it to be true, I can also 100% vouch for it being true

Won’t say the name of my company but I work for a big media organisation associated within the news

In 2019 a very senior colleague was sent a message from the liaison at the palace asking us not to report on the affair with Rose, instead they could give us other info in exchange for the company’s avoidance on the matter.

At the time the French press had run the story openly, quoting sources, but the palace had threatened the UK press with legal action if they ran it saying it “was against Prince William’s human rights” to have his life written about in this way. The UK press felt they couldn’t name the affair explicitly, so instead began writing about a “falling out” between Kate and her neighbour Rose.

The fact of the matter is that the French press incl Vanity fair have named this woman - IN PRINT - and still the royals haven’t sued them for defamation, nor has Rose sued them for defamation. Why would they not do that if it weren’t true?

This was also supposed to the biggest argument between Harry and William, his finding out about the affair.

Supporting link here Coverage of French press

@Aliceteacup What absolute bullshit, having experince of the workings of the kind of media organisations you claim to work for its clear your post is utter fabrication. So we are meant to believe that the Palace drew attention to an alleged affair by calling up a 'big media company' and asking them nit to print anything about an affair that no one had any credible proof of anyway.

You claim the Palace were so desperate, they offered to exchange other 'insider' royal information to stop it coming out, but you then contradict this by saying that they were already threatening legal action to all UK publications, hence why it was never published in the UK media. If persuing a legitimate legal route why on earth would they also offer to 'swap' genuine private Royal news for an unsubstantiated story that they were apparently taking legal action about anyway, they had no reason to. The press wouldn't touch a claim like this without contacting the palace in the first place to allow them to offer a statement or rebuttal or legal recourse. Again this just isn't how things work.

You claim to work for 'a big media organisation associated with the news' yet the only media evidence you give, which you claim shows coverage of the French press, is actually an article from little known 'entertainment' website The Inquisitor which itself is just repeating a story from an internet blog called Celebitchy which, having just read a few articles and truly horrible comments on there, might be the most hate filled site I have ever read in relation to William and Kate. The commentators and blog writer herself make Daily Mail commentors look sane...

The blog post linked from Celebitchy claims that the affair was published in the french edition of Vanity Fair, but only in the print copy and not online (convenient) but they have zero evidence of this, instead they focus on a headine on the cover of notoriously unreliable American 'magazine' In Touch, which has a cover accuracy of 9% according to research done by Gawker, including 19 incorrectly reported pregnancies (including Nicole Kidman, Penelope Cruz, Eva Longoria) over the 20 month period they conducted research. The In Touch article claims "There are rumors that William had an affair and could have cheated on Kate while she was pregnant,” so again has zeto evidence of anything which would give any credibility to its claims.

I really can't stand these Walter Mitty types who come on here pretending to have inside knowledge of things they are clearly making up, either for attention or to push some weird agenda.

diddl · 21/01/2023 17:28

I don't think that Kate enjoys the attention but it can hardly have come as a surprise to her.

I think she would stay for the kids tbh.

barnbaby · 21/01/2023 17:31

@00100001 so if you saw a video of your husband doing that with a model on a holiday whilst you were at home with two young children (we have to assume Kate saw the video) how would you feel. Was that a kind way to behave by an adoring husband as he makes out in public? No.
I live in the area where he spent much of his teen years near Highgrove and he had a tremendously wandering eye when they were dating, so if he treated her like that then, it seems likely the leopard didn't change his spots.

Peverellshire · 21/01/2023 17:32

Kate is lovely & is reserved as you say. IF an affair, I believe not with Rose & not as pedestrian as people think or as simple. This may make putting it behind her easier somehow, IF, indeed it happened at all.

I believe both William & Kate are essentially people with great integrity & fab parents, not perfect, who is? I hope somehow there can be reconciliation with Harry down the line.

Ohgodthepain · 21/01/2023 18:04

I personally can't see William doing anything wrong in those photos, he may have been leaning nearer to hear what someone was saying. If he full on snogged her , then whoever was filming this would 100% have caught it.

LadyEloise1 · 21/01/2023 18:27

If William had / has an affair, I hope both he and Kate agreed to an open marriage.
Otherwise he's a fool.
She has been a great asset by his side through tricky times.
Her family too have been supportive to him.
He has been blessed with three lovely healthy children.

Why jeopardise that ?

ArcaneWireless · 21/01/2023 18:49

When you marry a lower class girl and social climber ——- it's easier to control her and you can get away with much more.

Can you imagine the froth if the first bit were said about Meghan? The same with speculating about the marriage.

It doesn’t make it any less nasty when you are flinging shite about Kate and William.

MissMarpleRocks · 21/01/2023 18:54

I think in their marriage that William is the lucky one. He’s married a woman who has a strong family bond behind her who will always have her back & have welcomed him. If he’s played away then he’s a fool to jeopardise that.

magicthree · 21/01/2023 18:54

ThisIsTotallyNewInformation · 21/01/2023 08:42

Highly likely, having a mistress is a normal thing in the Royal family, they're all at it. Philip had multiple. I don't see why William would be any different? Their job is to paint an image of the perfect family, if you believe they are actually like that all the time, all smiles and laughing, it's all an act.

Wow - I'm always amazed at how people like you KNOW everything about members of the RF, even though I doubt you have even spoken to one of them about the weather.

ancientgran · 21/01/2023 19:11

Wiluli · 21/01/2023 16:21

the person who sold it said they did and o would believe it . I can assure you if my partner was that hands with anyone I would still call it cheating !!

Well they would say that, they were selling the photo.

ancientgran · 21/01/2023 19:18

ArcaneWireless · 21/01/2023 18:49

When you marry a lower class girl and social climber ——- it's easier to control her and you can get away with much more.

Can you imagine the froth if the first bit were said about Meghan? The same with speculating about the marriage.

It doesn’t make it any less nasty when you are flinging shite about Kate and William.

Vile isn't it about any woman.

trucklebrunch · 21/01/2023 19:24

It's always looked to me like they're devoted to each other, even more so in recent years.

But at the end of the day it's actually got nothing to do with us - analysing and speculating (and wishing the demise) of someone else's marriage is really low and despicable.

Just because they're in the public eye doesn't not mean we own the rights to spread gossip about them.

feellikeanalien · 21/01/2023 19:33

He may have had an affair, he may not. I really doubt that anyone on here actually knows.

My mum was approached by a friend who had heard that someone was spreading rumours that my dad had been spotted with two women looking very close to them.

It turned out to be true, they were his sisters. So those saying no smoke without fire, it may sometimes be the case but not always. If you really want to hurt someone or get your own back on them for something you feel they have done to you, what better way to do it than to spread a nasty rumour. After all even if they deny it "there's no smoke without fire".

ArcaneWireless · 21/01/2023 19:40

It is a pish thing to do.

By all means criticise an action but spreading rubbish is poor. When I read all this ‘source’ shite and ‘I know someone’ mince, it fair grips ma puddens.

I posit the notion that most know the princely sum of fuck all and are rubbing themselves that hard with glee that even Elizabeth Arden’s famouse cream would have a job healing the friction burn.

ArcaneWireless · 21/01/2023 19:41

Famous. I know of no fa mouse.

Maireas · 21/01/2023 19:51

If nothing else, this has been interesting publicity for Elizabeth Arden cream!
I do hope it appears in their next ad campaign. 😉

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