Does Harry honestly think Diana was killed by the paps?

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Just that really. I'm still reading the book so I might be wrong, but so far he seems she "went into hiding" because of the paps, and not the fault of the RF?

@EpicChaos actually he doesn’t specify if mph or kph. He just says 65. My mistake.

No problem @PhillyJoe either way though, that was not a speed that a drunk driver had any right to be doing, on any road, at any time. Especially when motor car at 65mph/120kmph hits an immovable object, in this case part of the concrete of the bridge.

I don't understand why this is even a question, when the ACTUAL INQUEST found the paps contributed to her death.

And it's nonsense to say the paps would have ever left her alone - I remember when this happened and they were following her everywhere, every single day, because her relationship with Dodi was so 'scandalous'.

No one is disputing that the paps contributed to the accident. What is being discussed is Harry’s seeming conviction that they were the main, or even the only cause.

Noodlezoodle not the French inquest though. No paparazzi were prosecuted for the collision or preventing medical staff getting to them. It was concluded that they weren’t responsible for the drivers actions and didn’t cause the car to crash, they were charged for some privacy violations though. So legally they weren’t responsible. Why the Pajet enquiry found them a factor in the collision I think is partially due to British sentimentality surrounding Diana.

Were you expecting him to slag off his dead mum for not putting on her seatbelt instead?

The inquest verdict did not mention the pararazzi as such.

Id did say that the conduct of the following vehicles was a factor in how she (and Dodi and the driver) came to die

"Princess Diana and her lover Dodi al-Fayed were unlawfully killed by the grossly negligent driving of chauffeur Henri Paul and paparazzi photographers pursuing their limousine into a Paris road tunnel in 1997.
The jury, which reached their majority decision on Monday, spent almost six months listening to more than 250 witnesses from around the world."

www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-diana-verdict-idUSL0775162620080407

The verdict very much mentioned the role of the paps.

Harry has not said they were the main or the only cause. He has described them as one of the links in the chain (Tom Bradby interview) and if any of the links wasn’t there, the chain would fall apart.

And the inquest agreed.

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I know he hasn’t said they were, but he certainly gives the strong impression that he feels they are mainly responsible, hence his deep dislike of the press. And no I don’t expect him to blame his dead mother 🙄. I do however think that he doesn’t really believe that the other factors are as important as the paps, even though he repeats the chain analogy.

Why does it matter though? He is allowed to make sense of her death in whatever way he chooses. He will have read all the available reports and come to a conclusion.

Of course, but he is clearly worried that the same thing will happen again and that the paps will be responsible. Hence the bizarre “car chase” scene in the documentary where he seems genuinely unsettled, and his claims that he was chased by paps on the way to the airport. If he accept Diana’s death was caused by an unfortunate series of events, maybe he needs to stop focussing on just the one element, however distasteful the paps are 🤷‍♀️

“I know he hasn’t said they were, but he certainly gives the strong impression that he feels they are mainly responsible,”

Well, that’s your feeling. I have been taking the view on this thread of following the words that he said.

Also worth noting. that the other factors in the chain are things he can prevent for himself and family. Always wear seat belts, check drivers etc

He could not prevent photographers trying to find ways into his Canadian home, or stand outside his girlfriend’s workplace and follow her etc. Of course a threat to his family that is outside his control is a key focus.

Anyway, we are going round in circles. Night!

And it's nonsense to say the paps would have ever left her alone - I remember when this happened and they were following her everywhere, every single day, because her relationship with Dodi was so 'scandalous'.

They were following her around because Mohammed Al Fayed was delighted at the way this coverage enabled him to position himself as close to the Royal Family, and he was tipping the paps off everywhere they went. Notably that last summer Diana went on another yachting holiday with her friend Rosa Monckton in between the two trips she took on A Fayed’s yacht. There were no papparazzi anywhere on that trip - there’s just one photo and one video of her, taken by a tourist on one of the Greek islands they visited, who recognised Diana.

Diane with a female friend wasn't anywhere near as newsworthy though, is it?

I'm not saying that Al Fayed didn't court press attention (I don't know enough about him to comment), but Di and Dodi was a huge news story in a way that Di and a posh female friend was not.

I remember there being a lot of racist speculation about what might happen if they married - would the heir to the throne end up with an Egyptian step parent and mixed race half-siblings? That sort of thing. It was very scandalous, in a way that you don't really see these days, and dominated the tabloids.

Hasnat Khan was dating Diana for two years and it was kept low profile.

I too recall the really unpleasant barely veiled racism about Dodi Al-Fayed

In an article linked to the Guardian report on the inquest [up-thread] about Al-Fayed senior's obsession that his son [and Diana] had been murdered - it said that he had been pursuing a friendship with Diana for over 2 years prior to her holidaying with him in the July of the same year. Also comments about how very controlling he was - eg frequent phone-calls to Dodi when Dodi and Di were alone together giving instructions

I can well believe that Al-Fayed senior was seeking to engineer his son's marriage to Diana - he'd waged a long and unsuccessful campaign to obtain British citizenship that had been declined because of his dodgy business dealings in the ME ??arms dealing etc

And there was that weird tabloid story that the reason they were so desperate to leave the Ritz was that Dodi was about to propose - and the ring was at his flat

Was it? There were certainly plenty of headlines about her and the "dishy doc".

Indeed, @AreOttersJustWetCats The Mirror broke the story in 1996, and there were often reports about them after that. And the coverage of r Khan in the Mirror’s report was vert respectful, focussing on his good looks and profession.