Where is Meghan?

[StarInTheHeavens]

I haven't seen hide-nor-hair of Meghan since the book release which is uncharacteristic of her. Even with the Montecito floods there was no news. So I'm wondering how this is playing out? Happiness or anger behind closed doors?

@Roussette Apologies, it was @MrsMaxDeWinter who completely made up what I said

She said she did not know how it was possible to fake a blow job scene in a car. Basically, what she meant was that the scene was not fake, but was real, that Meghan gave a blowjob to someone on screen

This is a total lie and I did not say anything of the sort.

Thank you. I appreciate your apology.

That’s is it. Nothing else. Even then you don’t say much about why you think it was a mistake.

Have you read my posts saying why it was a mistake?

Have you read all my posts including on this thread where I said, circumstances permitting, it was a mistake for Harry not to meet TM?
Doubtful.
More importantly, why do I have to justify myself to you?

I do get this opinion, I just wonder why it seems to be frozen in stone. Meghan and Harry have for the last three years now demonstrated quite clearly that they can at times be touchy, litigious, untruthful, media-leaking, self-aggrandising, lacking in judgement, vengeful and capable of doing everything you have vehemently condemned others in both their families for over the year. Because if anything, their supporters come across as having doubled down on the instance that they are on the side of the angels, and everyone else’s views are clearly racist/bullying/hatred.

Do you never step back and assess whether maybe, just maybe, even if they do have some admirable qualities, you were wrong to have thought so highly of them?

@Serenster It is actually possible. imarn Ayton who is a very vociferous supporter of BLM and was calling people racist if they refused to believe meghans treatment by the RF was racist, actually climbed down, apologised and admitted the pair were liars. I simply don't get why people can't see through them.

Harry's session with Gabor Mate has some great and thoughtful insights from both men about the effects of childhood trauma.

Harry had lovely things to say about Meghan, parenting his kids, and breaking the cycle.

He was also immensely grateful for the Amazon reviews his book has had, joking that some reviews are as long as essays.

And in a sign that the "Palace' is trying to walk back the poor optics of taking Frogmore to give to Andrew, they are now briefing that Harry and Meghan will be offered a suite in Buckingham Palace when they visit.

Their comms are so poor its comical. 😜

Straight in there with an unbiased opinion as usual.

and Meghan and Harry have now briefed that they totally don’t mind what a few days ago was called a cruel move meant to signal they are now longer welcome and can never be safe in the UK. In a major change in tune, it’s suddenly totally understandable and they’ve said how grateful and privileged they are to have had two homes.

Sounds like someone is taking some sound PR advice finally.

And thank you @MrsMaxDeWinter for the video of TM on GMB. I watched some but found it super uncomfortable so taking a break. Will watch the rest later. Didn’t get to the part about the suit yet but makes sense to me now.

I don't believe ANY story that quotes "sources" close to the Sussexes, not even from Scobie.

The official Sussex response, from their spokesperson who spoke on the record, was to simply confirm that they had been asked to vacate the house.

Where did I say I thought highly of them?
i just dont think they deserve the countless threads.
look at this one for instance. No one knows where she is. Yet here we have a thread full of speculation and some pretty nasty stuff about her.
then she will come back and the very people who wee posting on here, will say they wish she would go away. She can’t win.

I tend to think it likely they are speaking via these sources.

Mainly because of their having provided info for Finding Freedom, and giving excerpts of the letter to her father people magazine via friends.

Exactly right.

Thanks for the detailed and informative post MrsMaxdeWinter. It’s a good reminder. I forget exactly who did what & when, but my opinions of Meghan’s father, brother and sister has been formed by their own actions - even though I have forgotten all the exact detail by now.

Why was he going to stay with Lady Colin Campbell? That’s just weird!

San Diego International Airport is closer, and British Airways fly direct from there to Heathrow.

Who knows? One would think that we are all well educated enough now in dysfunctional family relationships to know that just because a certain thing appears that way, that just because all members of a family make a show of being a happy loving family, in fact that is not always the real truth of the matter.

@MrsMaxDeWinter You sound very authoritative in your long post, however, you, like all of us, use media in all its forms to inform yourself. Therefore what you are writing may be just as incorrect as you call others out on. You also heavily and vindictively misquoted me, which is pretty disgraceful.

In your post for example you state that Samantha says she 'raised Meghan'. Well if you look at it logically young Meghan was moving between her fathers home and her mothers home. Samantha and Thomas jnr moved to live with their father. Thomas worked 18 hours a day as a lighting engineer on sets. So it's not too far a stretch to believe Samantha helped feed and care for Meghan when she was younger? Not exclusively, but I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle. Samantha may not be the nicest person in the world but she is very damaged from her childhood. Of course her MH issues are irrelevant because it doesn't suit the narrative.

To say spitefully and absolutely unnecessary that Samantha's children had different fathers and the children didn't live with her is so nasty it's unbelievable. Samantha is disabled. She had MS from an early age and to be in a wheelchair is hardly the easiest thing to manage 3 children alone. Therefore it may have been in the children's best interest to live with their fathers or others.

This is applying critical thinking to a statement and fleshing out the bare bones. Maybe try it.

This is having echos of the Brexit situation for me.

All the supporters finally seeing the fall out and fading away apart from a couple who double down and reframe in desperation.

Now just left with 3 or 4 of the original stans still banging on - it must be exhausting and feel futile to be firefighting for these fools when deep in your soul you know you are on the wrong side of history.

Do you never step back and assess whether maybe, just maybe, even if they do have some admirable qualities, you were wrong to have thought so highly of them?

But isn't this what those who are supporting them are saying which is why would you spend
So much time on hounding and denigrating two people who have nothing at all to do with you?. Why the energy on trashing anything positive that is said. It is because you are also hell bent on standing your corner that they are worse than pedophiles or child murderers. Yes the press, rf and even fellow MN who have shown racism / abuse to or about M. and a comment like " we are all described as hater/racists is supposed to silence us. If it's a game of joining the other side ?? - what ever M&H have done it doesn't wipe away the nastiness and abuse they received for some years now.

Somebody up thread has now dug deep to find empathy for SM behaviour - would they be doing this if It wasn't against M. That's how desperate it gets.

You don't think many of the supporters are just tired of the hate. Maybe- we still see the threads but increasingly bypass some usernames. For example the haters don't like to be called that but don't mind name calling the supporters.
These days there are very few anti M&H who write anything of worth most of it is just nastiness and often childish, but because they are prolific it seems that there is debate and the antis are in the majority.

For me this is a situation where many people could sense from vey early on that H&M were a couple of self absorbed, grandiose and delusional dullards.

There was no need for anyone to get so exercised because with these character types you just need to sit back and watch them hang themselves - it’s only ever a matter of time before the accumulation of their own unfiltered poorly judged words and actions shines a light on the utter fools that they are.

They are an absolute laughing stock with enough evidence straight from the horses mouth that the media frenzy was unnecessary.

Good grief give it up! I've been on threads where there are more non detractors than otherwise but keep fooling yourself if you want! There's far more around who don't spend their life posting vitriol than there ever was!

Stan? Hater?

What an odd response - you do sound rattled.

Are you trying to silence me?

Who declared you the thread police and gave you the authority to shoo off those whose opinions you don’t like?