Harry’s sunken bed comment

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When describing how KC told Harry about the death of his Mum, Harry made a point of saying ‘that sunken bed’.

Given the fact that Harry obviously likes to come across as a poor ‘woe is me’ spare part of the RF, does anyone else wonder if this comment was just another one of his sly digs, designed to imply that he didn’t even have a comfortable bed when staying with his Father, and just slept on an old worn out bed?

Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but I can’t help thinking that he tries to use every opportunity possible to make people believe that, as he’s always supposedly had to ‘play second fiddle’ to William, William not only had the bigger room, but also would’ve had a more comfortable mattress to sleep on too, and not have to make do with a sunken bed like ‘poor Harry’ supposedly did.

I think this is the crux of it - he'd be complaining about how it was handled regardless.

• Big state funeral = he's a victim because everything was on show
• Small private funeral = he's a victim because everything was hidden and taboo
• He walks behind the coffin = he's a victim being made to perform whilst grieving
• He doesn't walk behind the coffin = he's excluded from the funeral and not allowed to grieve or say goodbye
• He's given professional counselling = he's being forced to speak about it and treated as though his grief is wrong and he needs fixing
• He's not given professional counselling = he's not given sufficient support to cope with the death of his mother.
• Charles leaves him notes with kind words of support = Charles was incapable of being kind to his face with real words
• Charles spoke to him face-to-face = he's being harassed and forced to constantly speak about the issue instead of handle it his own way.
• Charles married Camilla = Harry's a victim because he didn't want that to happen
• Charles doesn't marry Camilla = Harry's a victim because he has to carry the guilt of being the reason his dad isn't with the woman he loves.

He's got himself into a tizz where everything was wrong and the alternative would've been wrong too. It's very sad.

But will it contain details of dog bowls and spanked rumps?

I would take it as meaning he's saying his bed was run down, like you OP.

like you thought, I mean.

A private funeral wouldn’t have been appropriate given the number of high profile guests who wanted to attend and the RF knew that. Just the foreign dignitaries alone and heads of state whom Diana knew added up to a huge number. And the public interested was too large. And she needed to be given due respect as the mother of a king. For all those reasons therefore, but mainly for practical ones, the ceremony needed to be held in a church with could accommodate two thousand seats.

I took it to mean the mattress wasn't good to be honest which wouldn't surprise me at balmoral at all.

OP do you have any other siblings? It was defo a thing in my childhood that the favourite sibling was doted on and those of us not the favourite were placed in less nice rooms if we ever stayed/went away.

Seems like you're looking to much into it and considering you clearly do not like him I'm not sure why you watched the interview in the first place!

@ScramblePud That sounds about right.

I thought the whole walking behind the coffin thing was at Charles’ security request, Charles was terrified he would be booed , or worse, by the crowds but they reckoned that no one would boo if the boys were there.

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"He's got himself into a tizz"

Is the most succinct and spot on description of this man's present situation. He is has sunken into negative victim mentality and once you're there it can be very very hard to dig yourself out of it, particularly if other encourage you to stay there .

A private funeral needn’t be a small one. It could still take place in a large church but the hearse could deliver the coffin to the church, the service take place and the hearse take the coffin to the Spencer estate for small burial service. It didn’t need a parade through the streets.

Nice sympathetic post …

Spin it whichever way you like; it’s still pretty devastating to have your parents marriage fail due to your father’s long-term relationship with his mistress and for your mother to be killed in a car crash when you are only twelve years old. And for the whole world to be aware of these events but you are expected to keep a stiff upper lip about them.

I took it to mean the mattress wasn't good to be honest which wouldn't surprise me at balmoral at all.

Have you visited the Balmoral estate? It is hardly run down. You can even stay in a holiday cottage there. www.balmoralcastle.com/cottages.htm

Sympathy doesn't mean indulging everything that someone says, especially when they're spiralling downwards because of it. Losing his mother is awful, of course it is. But, as I just outlined, he's blaming people who played no role in her death for the aftermath being hard when, the truth is, he'd blame them just as much regardless of how they behaved. It's not Charles' fault or the Queen's fault or Camilla's fault that Diana died and it's not their fault that it's hard for a 12yo boy to lose his mother - but Harry blames them repeatedly for doing the wrong thing in the aftermath of her death. I think that, based on his current attitude and what he's said, even if they'd behaved completely different, he'd hold the same attitude. It's possible to be sympathetic to his loss whilst not agreeing that everyone else was wrong.

You appear to have met my mother 😂

Very much the same, nothing I could do was ever good enough

If Diana hadn't had a state funeral that would no doubt at all be one of his major gripes

I think it’s very hard to draw conjectures on a book you haven’t even read. It’s also difficult when you’re a big fan of one side of a story - lots of people who are obsessed with this family sort of take sides in the argument and feel they are ‘part’ of it. Things like you calling him ‘Wills.’ But the fact is that you don’t know any of them, so don’t really know the story at all. And you haven’t read the book, so can’t even really draw conclusions from that either.

So basically I think trying to draw conclusions on someone you don’t know based on a line from a book you haven’t read is a losing game, really. Who knows what he meant by it? Who knows how ‘Wills’ feels about it? Nobody does. But either way I don’t think it will ever impact me so I’m generally not too bothered about it. Everyone’s got their family dramas, and most of them are dull.

I very much doubt the palace had a bed sunk into the floor and the way harry talks about it in the interview does indeed make it sound like he meant an old sunken bed, which in my view is more realistic and also tallies with his woe is me narrative

I don't know anything about the sunken bed, but the commentary I did pick up in the media was that H and W shared a big room that was divided in two (obviously with a plasterboard wall.)

W had the larger room with a double bed and a better view and H had the smaller half of the room.

Surely this is par for the course with families and siblings?

My kids had a double and a single bedroom. The older one got the larger room as they needed it before the younger one.

This is just normal.

And what's more, H would be sleeping in loads of beds as the RF have lots of residences.

I can't remember now who decided that the sons would walk behind the coffin.

I do know that the Duke of Edinburgh said that he would walk with them (and be a support.)
You can see this on the film of the funeral. When they thought they were out of camera-shot the DofE put a comforting arm around them.

He gave the family and Diana a lot more support than is currently acknowledged and his gruff exterior hid his other side. Evidently he was always there for Diana and exchanged a lot of letters with her, trying to help her.

Harry made a point of saying ‘that sunken bed’...does anyone else wonder if this comment was just another one of his sly digs

No, but you are sinking to even lower depths. The insipidity and vapidity of these threads just get worse every day.

Or, they could have had a small, private funeral and then held a memorial later, when things weren’t so raw.
But I suppose the public wanted something NOW!

‘When they thought they were out of camera-shot the DofE put a comforting arm around them.‘

But how awful that he only feels he can do that when they think the cameras aren’t watching.
Stiff upper lips are all very well but for that requirement to be applied to bereaved children…

I immediately thought that it was a bit Oliver "Twisty" too 😅

As I mentioned, he’d supposedly said somewhere or other that William had the biggest room, the best view and a double bed, whilst his room was less luxurious.

I'm sure Harry has the better view in California now.

Is this thread designed to remind us how bad harry had it? How he was abused by the royal family? Goodness. He just needs to go away and enjoy his amazing Californian life.