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Harry’s sunken bed comment

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Coffeecreams · 11/01/2023 09:02

When describing how KC told Harry about the death of his Mum, Harry made a point of saying ‘that sunken bed’.

Given the fact that Harry obviously likes to come across as a poor ‘woe is me’ spare part of the RF, does anyone else wonder if this comment was just another one of his sly digs, designed to imply that he didn’t even have a comfortable bed when staying with his Father, and just slept on an old worn out bed?

Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but I can’t help thinking that he tries to use every opportunity possible to make people believe that, as he’s always supposedly had to ‘play second fiddle’ to William, William not only had the bigger room, but also would’ve had a more comfortable mattress to sleep on too, and not have to make do with a sunken bed like ‘poor Harry’ supposedly did.

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longwayoff · 11/01/2023 10:49

I wonder how PH will feel if he eventually gets round to reading 'his book'? Embarassed perhaps? Many more interviews to be had 'not my fault, I didn't know . . .'

Shampern · 11/01/2023 10:52

I think the word chosen probably reflects his mood or it was one of those sleigh beds where the mattress drinks deep into the frame. Quite common in Scotland in the past.

Shampern · 11/01/2023 10:53

Typo sinks not drinks

Shelefttheweb · 11/01/2023 10:56

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 11/01/2023 10:15

No I haven’t read the book
Oh, well there you go then.
I’ve watched the interview where Harry mentions the sunken bed.
So that misses a lot of context then, it makes more sense in the book

If Harry is saying things in an interview then it is reasonable to infer things from the interview itself. We don’t have to read and book.

newtb · 11/01/2023 10:58

I can remember that after Diana's funeral it was revealed that Prince Philip talked all the way about the history of the parts of London they passed through as they walked. He did this to make it bearable for them.

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 11/01/2023 10:59

Shelefttheweb · 11/01/2023 10:56

If Harry is saying things in an interview then it is reasonable to infer things from the interview itself. We don’t have to read and book.

If you don't read the book though, you miss all the actual context.

Shelefttheweb · 11/01/2023 11:01

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 11/01/2023 10:59

If you don't read the book though, you miss all the actual context.

The context is provided by the interview, and possibly a more honest context as it is Harry speaking directly not a ghost writer interpreting what Harry said,

Coffeecreams · 11/01/2023 11:14

Shelefttheweb · 11/01/2023 11:01

The context is provided by the interview, and possibly a more honest context as it is Harry speaking directly not a ghost writer interpreting what Harry said,

Precisely, it was straight from the horses mouth.

I would’ve thought he would’ve really only remembered his Father coming into his room to tell him the tragic news of his Mum.

Yet he felt the need to emphasise ‘that sunken bed’, in my opinion, it’s just another of his attempts to make people believe he had poor treatment.

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DNBU · 11/01/2023 11:16

Maybe I’m reading too much into it

Yes.

Patineur · 11/01/2023 11:16

The queen was well known to be quite careful with public money, and it's believable that the beds at Balmoral were quite old and the mattresses not replaced that often. After all, they really only stayed there en masse for a fairly short time in the summer, didn't they? So I can see her feeling it didn't really justify paying out for hotel-standard accommodation, most guests wouldn't dream of complaining.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 11/01/2023 11:24

@Ireallycantthinkofagoodone , yes.

I wonder whether he ever thinks of his GGFather king, who’d have been more than happy to remain the ‘spare’. Has he ever watched The King’s Speech, I wonder?
I do wonder whether he’s at all capable of taking into consideration anyone’s feelings or sensitivities but his own - and Meghan’s of course. It would seem that nobody else’s count.

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/01/2023 11:24

Sunken bed Wink

Harry’s sunken bed comment
Shelefttheweb · 11/01/2023 11:29

Patineur · 11/01/2023 11:16

The queen was well known to be quite careful with public money, and it's believable that the beds at Balmoral were quite old and the mattresses not replaced that often. After all, they really only stayed there en masse for a fairly short time in the summer, didn't they? So I can see her feeling it didn't really justify paying out for hotel-standard accommodation, most guests wouldn't dream of complaining.

The beds themselves may be old but I don’t believe the housekeeper and estate management wouldn’t keep an eye on mattresses and leave a sunken one in place. It’s not like they don’t spend money maintaining the Balmoral estate.

JudgeJ · 11/01/2023 11:30

musicalfrog · 11/01/2023 10:08

Isn't a sunken bed one that fits flush with the floor? Quite posh back in the 80s I believe (but a bit tacky really!)

I do feel like people are looking for ANY tiny reason to criticise Harry and really that says a lot more about them than him.

Isn't that what he's doing though, sifting through the detritus of his life for things to complain about?

beachcomber70 · 11/01/2023 11:31

I once knew someone for whom nothing I ever did was right. If I bought second hand I was a cheapskate, if I bought new I didn't have a clue about money, I was so stupid. If I went somewhere why on earth would I go there I should have gone somewhere else....get the picture. Carping and snipping, bitching, point scoring every time I saw her. She couldn't disguise her disapproval of me. Every thing that I said or did was grist to her mill, something for her armoury, to be used to attack me and my character. Even if she'd done the same as I had!

Harry reminds me of this. Anything he can pick at will be picked at, twisted according to the agenda at the time, according to who he is trying to impress or who he decides to hate. Anything can be used as ammunition either to enhance himself or defame the other person. It's all about distortion and manipulation, bitterness and spite. He seems full of hate...and lies.

The deep resentment of being 2nd son could have been turned around into a good thing, other opportunities, finding a voice for the good. Instead his whining and self pity, lack of intelligence and self awareness means he has the global stage he wanted...so he can spout hatred upon his birth family. To me he is a clown on the stage.

All the energy he is putting into all this could be going towards having an enriching dignified family life, happy times, instead of wasting his kids early years and his prime years with this vitriol. Then his kids could have had cousins, aunts, uncles etc too, who would care for them. If Meghan would allow that of course....

Hadalifeonce · 11/01/2023 11:32

I grew up believing my sister was my parents' favourite child, a resented her, somewhat, for this. As adults, I told her this..... It turned out she thought exactly the same of me. Obviously as rational adults we could discuss this perception, we laughed about it, and still call out some things in a mocking way to each other.
I have asked friends about it, and most of them say the same thing.

vera99 · 11/01/2023 11:36

Baconand · 11/01/2023 10:46

You need to read the book.

I’m not a Harry fan but the comments taken out of context of the book change the meaning.

I’m listening in Audible, I still think he’s a massive twat but it is interesting to hear his perspective on things. He was a very traumatised child who has been badly parented. No wonder he’s such a fuck up.

Careful now that's treason in some quarters,.,,,,

beachcomber70 · 11/01/2023 11:37

Exactly hadalifeonce. I would get fed up with my mother telling me how wonderful my sister and brother were. When she died they told me she would big me up to them! I was astonished.

One of my sons used to think my other son was the favourite. He wasn't of course, just different. Now he's an adult we laugh about it. Key word there being 'adult', thinking with a mature brain, not addled by drugs, and self pity.

JudgeJ · 11/01/2023 11:37

WimpoleHat · 11/01/2023 10:17

He could have attended the funeral without having to walk behind the coffin.

He could. But it wasn’t an “ordinary” funeral. The whole environment was bizarre; HM Queen herself was vastly unpopular for just wanting to keep things private for the boys up in Scotland. So a ceremonial funeral had to happen and “the men” walking behind the coffin was a “thing” in that context - and Earl Spencer had insisted that he was doing that. So, yes, they could’ve said “the boys are too young”, but there’d have been comments about that that they might have found hurtful at the time/when they were older. And they might genuinely have felt that they’d been denied the opportunity to say goodbye in the formal way to their mother. I think it must have been a very difficult call for those involved.

And can you imagine the whining now? “William got to and I didn’t”/“Pa got to do it, but wouldn’t let us”/“We were the really important people but were denied our right to make that final journey with our own mother “……? Everyone knows best with hindsight.

I think that the RF allowed themselves to be bullied into have a semi-state funeral by the baying mob egged on by sections of the idiot Press and by the New Labour government who looked on her death as the dream ticket to make the RF look bad.
It would have been better to have left the arrangements to the Spencer family with a small dignified funeral near her childhood home, instead there was the hideous spectacle of people wailing and sobbing along the route.

DogBowlsAreMyWeapon · 11/01/2023 11:42

Hadalifeonce · 11/01/2023 11:32

I grew up believing my sister was my parents' favourite child, a resented her, somewhat, for this. As adults, I told her this..... It turned out she thought exactly the same of me. Obviously as rational adults we could discuss this perception, we laughed about it, and still call out some things in a mocking way to each other.
I have asked friends about it, and most of them say the same thing.

I’ve been sharing the memes and discussing with my kids this morning. They thought it was all hilarious and there was some minor bickering about which one I love the most (😂🙄) - BUT, then turned to arguing/begging for the other not to discuss at school. They’re both under 14…

Hearmeout · 11/01/2023 11:42

It was tragic she passed the way she did but yes, the country lost it's ever loving mind over it.

She was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people and that's very sad but the aftermath was like a national psychotic break.

beachcomber70 · 11/01/2023 11:46

I've every sympathy for any child who loses a parent in childhood. It happened to my grandmother and my mother too. Very sad stories. They were affected by it all their lives but didn't go on to blame everyone else for their problems for the rest of their lives. They didn't trash their families, use lies and hatred and take their hurt to the world press and media.....thus looking ridiculous and unhinged due to their own choices in life.

We each choose how to deal with our problems. But some are more easily influenced than others due to character defects/drugs/very poor advice/impulsiveness/bad judgment in choice of partner etc.

Shelefttheweb · 11/01/2023 11:46

There does seem to be an issue about finding a role for the second in line. ‘Working Royal’ must feel rather unending, little freedom and only demotion to look forward to. People scoff at shaking hands and attending dinners as ‘work’ but that is because they don’t consider the monotony of doing it day in and day out. Unfortunately Harry wasn’t academically strong enough to pursue a professional career and that probably is also true of putting him in charge of anything significant within the palaces etc as a proper job rather than a symbolic one (it would have had to have been sufficiently senior). In the past they would probably have been given their own estate to run.

Teatime55 · 11/01/2023 11:49

I don’t think anyone could have planned for the wailing and all those flowers being thrown. It looks mad now.
I also think it was a bad choice but it was almost the only choice.

We have to deal with a BIL who reinterprets everything into him being the victim, with his wife goading him along. Lots of this seems so familiar.

mumda · 11/01/2023 11:50

My eldest sibling ALWAYS had the best deal re bedrooms.

Isn't that how it is usually?

(Does that sound a bit bitter? Should I write a book?)